Government Audit on Effectiveness of NICS Enforcement

[Rucker61]

Three excerpts:

"From 2008 through 2014, states handled about 68 million of the more than 119 million NICS transactions. To help ensure the completeness of the NICS database, states are required to update it with supporting documents when a prospective purchaser attempts to buy a firearm and is approved, denied, or delayed. We reviewed a judgmental sample of 631 state processed transactions and determined that in 630 of them the states did not fully update the NICS database or inform the FBI of the transaction’s outcome. These failures mean the NICS database is incomplete, and increases the risk that individuals found by states to be prohibited purchasers could be able to purchase firearms in the future."

"Our audit also revealed a group of NICS transactions the FBI denied but ATF believed should have been approved because of a disagreement regarding the definition of a “Fugitive from Justice,” a category that disqualifies prospective gun purchasers. This disagreement was referred to the Department’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) in 2008, and OLC provided informal advice in July 2008. In August 2010, the FBI requested formal reconsideration of that advice, but 6 years later OLC still has not rendered a decision. We believe this issue should be addressed as soon as possible. Of those transactions that were denied by the FBI in this category from November 1999 through May 2015, there were 49,448 instances in which ATF did not agree with the FBI’s denial determination. ATF tracked these cases as FBI denials but, because ATF did not agree with that determination, ATF did not attempt to recover the firearm in the 2,183 instances in which the firearm was transferred."

"We found that the number of NICS denial prosecutions has dropped substantially since FY 2003, when 166 subjects were accepted for consideration of prosecution. Between FY 2008 and FY 2015, an 8 year period, ATF formally referred 509 NICS denial cases that included 558 subjects to USAOs for possible prosecution. The USAOs accepted for consideration of prosecution 254 subjects (or less than 32 subjects per year), declined to prosecute 272 subjects, and decisions for 32 were pending at the time of our review."


https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/a1632.pdf

 

[Crimefree]

Three excerpts:

"From 2008 through 2014, states handled about 68 million of the more than 119 million NICS transactions. To help ensure the completeness of the NICS database, states are required to update it with supporting documents when a prospective purchaser attempts to buy a firearm and is approved, denied, or delayed. We reviewed a judgmental sample of 631 state processed transactions and determined that in 630 of them the states did not fully update the NICS database or inform the FBI of the transaction’s outcome. These failures mean the NICS database is incomplete, and increases the risk that individuals found by states to be prohibited purchasers could be able to purchase firearms in the future."

"Our audit also revealed a group of NICS transactions the FBI denied but ATF believed should have been approved because of a disagreement regarding the definition of a “Fugitive from Justice,” a category that disqualifies prospective gun purchasers. This disagreement was referred to the Department’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) in 2008, and OLC provided informal advice in July 2008. In August 2010, the FBI requested formal reconsideration of that advice, but 6 years later OLC still has not rendered a decision. We believe this issue should be addressed as soon as possible. Of those transactions that were denied by the FBI in this category from November 1999 through May 2015, there were 49,448 instances in which ATF did not agree with the FBI’s denial determination. ATF tracked these cases as FBI denials but, because ATF did not agree with that determination, ATF did not attempt to recover the firearm in the 2,183 instances in which the firearm was transferred."

"We found that the number of NICS denial prosecutions has dropped substantially since FY 2003, when 166 subjects were accepted for consideration of prosecution. Between FY 2008 and FY 2015, an 8 year period, ATF formally referred 509 NICS denial cases that included 558 subjects to USAOs for possible prosecution. The USAOs accepted for consideration of prosecution 254 subjects (or less than 32 subjects per year), declined to prosecute 272 subjects, and decisions for 32 were pending at the time of our review."


https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/a1632.pdf

This is part of the reason why registration fails apart from it's totally useless value to anyone but government. Government simply is not capable of doing the task accurately, competently or entirely. As always with government there are no checks or balances and everything is optional with absolutely no desire to know or correct. These are the same fools who people think will protect them.

 

[jet57]

Three excerpts:

"From 2008 through 2014, states handled about 68 million of the more than 119 million NICS transactions. To help ensure the completeness of the NICS database, states are required to update it with supporting documents when a prospective purchaser attempts to buy a firearm and is approved, denied, or delayed. We reviewed a judgmental sample of 631 state processed transactions and determined that in 630 of them the states did not fully update the NICS database or inform the FBI of the transaction’s outcome. These failures mean the NICS database is incomplete, and increases the risk that individuals found by states to be prohibited purchasers could be able to purchase firearms in the future."

"Our audit also revealed a group of NICS transactions the FBI denied but ATF believed should have been approved because of a disagreement regarding the definition of a “Fugitive from Justice,” a category that disqualifies prospective gun purchasers. This disagreement was referred to the Department’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) in 2008, and OLC provided informal advice in July 2008. In August 2010, the FBI requested formal reconsideration of that advice, but 6 years later OLC still has not rendered a decision. We believe this issue should be addressed as soon as possible. Of those transactions that were denied by the FBI in this category from November 1999 through May 2015, there were 49,448 instances in which ATF did not agree with the FBI’s denial determination. ATF tracked these cases as FBI denials but, because ATF did not agree with that determination, ATF did not attempt to recover the firearm in the 2,183 instances in which the firearm was transferred."

"We found that the number of NICS denial prosecutions has dropped substantially since FY 2003, when 166 subjects were accepted for consideration of prosecution. Between FY 2008 and FY 2015, an 8 year period, ATF formally referred 509 NICS denial cases that included 558 subjects to USAOs for possible prosecution. The USAOs accepted for consideration of prosecution 254 subjects (or less than 32 subjects per year), declined to prosecute 272 subjects, and decisions for 32 were pending at the time of our review."


https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/a1632.pdf

Audits are done all the time and mistakes and dependencies are found; so what's your point?

 

[BretJ]

Audits are done all the time and mistakes and dependencies are found; so what's your point?

That if gun control is that much of a concern then the government should be more focused on actually prosecuting criminal attempts to purchase firearms.

 

[TurtleDude]

That if gun control is that much of a concern then the government should be more focused on actually prosecuting criminal attempts to purchase firearms.

gun control is a scheme liberal politicians use to PRETEND they are doing something about crime and to harass honest gun owners. The proponents of gun control never intended that scheme to actually impede criminals

 

[Crimefree]

That if gun control is that much of a concern then the government should be more focused on actually prosecuting criminal attempts to purchase firearms.

Lets say we have a mindset due to gun control propaganda that somehow it s possible to deny criminals guns. First off "criminals" are by definition people who have broken the law and haven not been prosecuted for that crime. Those that have have paid there debt to society and are legally considered free citizens who no cannot be prosecuted, thus they are no longer criminals.

We really should not let gun control stigmatise a section of society in order to promote their agenda. Government and it's courts have no business releasing people they know will commit crimes. If they do not know then that person is no different to any other citizen. The principle that a person can be denied or punished for what they might do is just wrong, inhuman and like it or not innocent in every sense of the word.

Fact is it is not possible to deny criminals anything and that approach is simply idiotic but gun control has it now legitimised. Should we be supporting gun control or breaking it down?

Fact is we should be expending our money and time on those criminals who have not yet been arrested and prosecuted not chasing guns

 

[Crimefree]

Audits are done all the time and mistakes and dependencies are found; so what's your point?

They are useless. Those mistakes are not ever corrected and any government recording becomes more corrupted by the day. Nor are those mistakes few and far between. It took the Canadian register but a few years to become totally unreliable.

What is your point?