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Gore Responds To Drudge’s Latest Hysterics

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Also the easiest way is to volunteer to plant the trees yourself. Theres probably some kind of tree planting program in your state. They had a program here for it. I forgot the name I'll have to look it up again

Carbon Neutral

TerraPass | Prevent global warming, reduce carbon dioxide pollution, promote alternative energy

I'd say read the David Suzuki page first.

The problem with Carbon Offsets

Hence, when the carbon offset companies claim that an activity generating 1100 kg (1.1 ton) of CO2 can be made carbon neutral by purchasing 1 tree, the activity is first carbon neutral after at least 88 years (1100 kg / 12.5 kg per year )- assuming that the tree survives that long.

We therefore have a delay before the carbon neutral state is achieved. If the activity generating 1100 kg of CO2 is repeated the following year and another tree planted, and so on, we actually find that there over a 100 year period is a net gain of CO2. Carbon emissions will continue to rise because the trees are unable to keep up with the level of emissions.

Carbon-info.org has developed a model that illustrates this point. If a person produces 1100 kg of CO2 each year during a 100 year period, and each year purchases a tree (as calculated by carbon offset companies) to absorb the carbon dioxide, there will actually over the 100 year period be a net gain of 52.1 tons of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Not exactly carbon neutral!
 

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From an environmental standpoint, why does it matter if you consume lots of energy if that energy is created in a manner that has little to no ecologic impact? The charge is that the environmentalist is harming the environment. The charge isn't that the minimalist is a now a conspicuous consumer. Zero carbon emission energy harms the environment how?

You people are suckers if you believe that crap, Gore's on the same power grid as everyone else in Tennessee, what did you think they had a special wire linked to the windmill sending power directly to his house?
 
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If the environmentalist uses nothing but green energy, he isn’t harming the environment.

If he consumes massive amounts of expensive electricity, he is dumping massive amounts of his money into Green businesses.

If those green businesses flourish, it makes it easier/cheaper/more likely for other people to consume from them.

How is this anything but a laudable example of someone practicing what he preaches?

I think I'd like him less if he didn't use so much environmentally friendly electricity.

Saying that he buys too much electricity and that it should be divided among 19 other families is communist, you pinkos. If you don't like capitalism, get the hell out of America.
 
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You people are suckers if you believe that crap, Gore's on the same power grid as everyone else in Tennessee, what did you think they had a special wire linked to the windmill sending power directly to his house?

Gee, all this time, I was operating under the delusion that electricity is kind of a communal resource. Companies constantly making more and dump it into the collective pool, and individuals taking out what they need and paying a particular company for the cost it took them to make that much electricity.
 

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I see the fake conservative is once again coming to the rescue of a liberal....I wonder why a so called conservative would lie and make excuses for someone like Gore who is a radical- liberal? Hmmmmm.....could it be because this so called conservative is nothing but a liar claiming to be a conservative while in truth a liberal all along?

The gig is up buddy boy.....you take up the liberal stance on too many issues to be a conservative......no one believes you to be even a moderate conservative so you need to stop being ashamed of the title liberal and admit what you really are.......its not hard........
 

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Also the easiest way is to volunteer to plant the trees yourself. Theres probably some kind of tree planting program in your state. They had a program here for it. I forgot the name I'll have to look it up again

Carbon Neutral

TerraPass | Prevent global warming, reduce carbon dioxide pollution, promote alternative energy

I'd say read the David Suzuki page first.

You know what happens to those tree in the end? Some big logging company comes along and buys the rights to log the track of land........lol

these carbon credits as they are called are nothing more than people who are energy hogs like Gore feeling bad because their wealth and usage.....go and buy other peoples unused energy credits.......so because they are rich....they use their wealth not only to use more than their share but have to buy unused energy from other people just to feel better about their piggish usage.......


Why does it matter how much Gore uses? Because being a typical hypocrite liberal he is....he preaches conservation for everyone else yet can use as much energy...green or not....as he damn well pleases........if he was so worried about consumption...why does he heat his pool 12 months a year or live in a smaller home?

And like others have stated....only a ******* fool believes that Tenn has put Gore on his own power grid.....but as I see, that is a given when dealing with liberals and so called conservatives......
 

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Apparenrly, to Gore supporters, it doesnt matter how much energy you consume, so long as it's "green" or that you pay extra for it, or that you buy a 'get out of carbon guilt free card'.
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I find it amazing that you're so consumed with attacking Al Gore that you refuse to accept or even admit the truth! That is the height of partisanship.

The whole point of the Green Movement is to not use fossil fuels and to use renewable energy which is what Gore does. All the rest of what you're writing about is partisan BS that is moot in this discussion. Your posts read like you have your tail between your legs...
 

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I see the fake conservative is once again coming to the rescue of a liberal....I wonder why a so called conservative would lie and make excuses for someone like Gore who is a radical- liberal? Hmmmmm.....could it be because this so called conservative is nothing but a liar claiming to be a conservative while in truth a liberal all along?

The gig is up buddy boy.....you take up the liberal stance on too many issues to be a conservative......no one believes you to be even a moderate conservative so you need to stop being ashamed of the title liberal and admit what you really are.......its not hard........

First of all Prove that Gore is a radical liberal. If you cant retract this comment.

Second of all please read how green energy works and find out how Gore gets his electricity. You'll understand things alot better. Nobody here has even claimed Gore is on his own power grid.

Third of all he preaches conservation when it comes to how we use energy that leaves a carbon footprint. Energy that is renewable such as that derived from natural oils, wind power and solar power have no effect on the environment period.
 
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1)All his electricity comes from renewable sources such as wind and solar. No carbon. Understand?

Wrong.

NONE of his power comes from solar...some will AFTER the solar installation is complete, but none does now.

Any wind power he uses is not included in the NES (Nashville Electric Service) useage the article was based on. His NES useage, 20 times the average home, is 100% carbon based. If he has wind now, it's over and above what he pulls off the grid, as will be his solar useage when his solar system is complete.

On top of all of this is his regular use of private jet transportation, multiple residences, etc.

Gore talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk...get over it.

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First of all Prove that Gore is a radical liberal. If you cant retract this comment.

Besides being a radical liberal, Gore is a radical idiot.

He invented the internet.
"Love Story" was based on Al and Tipper.

Uh huh...riiight.

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Besides being a radical liberal, Gore is a radical idiot.

He invented the internet.
"Love Story" was based on Al and Tipper.

Uh huh...riiight.

BubbaBob

How is this surprising? Another conservative passing himself of as an independent and claiming that Al Gore said he invented the internet. Once again I am force to rectify this dishonest claim by conservatives and the like.

Urban Legends Reference Pages: Internet of Lies

Please stop claiming that Al Gore even insinuated that he invented the internet. It's intellectualy dishonest at best.
 

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I see the fake conservative is once again coming to the rescue of a liberal....I wonder why a so called conservative would lie and make excuses for someone like Gore who is a radical- liberal? Hmmmmm.....could it be because this so called conservative is nothing but a liar claiming to be a conservative while in truth a liberal all along?

The gig is up buddy boy.....you take up the liberal stance on too many issues to be a conservative......no one believes you to be even a moderate conservative so you need to stop being ashamed of the title liberal and admit what you really are.......its not hard........

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Two choices, Cold Dirt. Stop the personal attacks and debate the topic, or refrain from posting if you can't without attacking. All other options, just once, will cause you significant consequences.
 

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If Al Gore fell down in a forest and nobody was listening to him as usual, would he make a noise?
 

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If Al Gore fell down in a forest and nobody was listening to him as usual, would he make a noise?

You would hear a sigh. LOL.

Seriously though, he IS being listened to, and that is important. Although he would never be my choice for president, global warming IS important, and Gore's input on this has been helpful in getting that message across. Call Gore what you want, but 2 Oscars don't mean that nobody is listening.
 

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Would you please prove this? How is it Green and what is your source for this claim?

» Meanwhile, back at the ranchSolar panels, wind turbines, renewable energy, water - life off-grid

It's well known just not made a big deal of. There are sources all over the net that discuss Bush's ranch. It's very eco-friendly and while he gets little mainstream media praise for it many enviornmental journals and smaller sources have written alot on it.

Here's a mainstream article:

Before moving into the White House, George W. Bush built the kind of vacation home that Al Gore might have designed.
Why Bush Considers Himself a Conservationist - Newsweek: International Editions - MSNBC.com
 

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» Meanwhile, back at the ranchSolar panels, wind turbines, renewable energy, water - life off-grid

It's well known just not made a big deal of. There are sources all over the net that discuss Bush's ranch. It's very eco-friendly and while he gets little mainstream media praise for it many enviornmental journals and smaller sources have written alot on it.

Here's a mainstream article:


Why Bush Considers Himself a Conservationist - Newsweek: International Editions - MSNBC.com

I find it quite ironic that, while Bush seems to practice conservation in his personal life, he would, at the same time, gut the EPA and conservationist measures as he has done.

The Liberals never had the market cornered on conservation, as the Goldwaterites were big on conservation, Nixon created the EPA, and most Conservatives 40 years ago embraced conservation. However, some today might even call Goldwater and Nixon Liberal tree huggers, as they themselves choose to keep there heads buried in the sand.
 

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You would hear a sigh. LOL.

Seriously though, he IS being listened to, and that is important. Although he would never be my choice for president, global warming IS important, and Gore's input on this has been helpful in getting that message across. Call Gore what you want, but 2 Oscars don't mean that nobody is listening.

Oscars aren't worth the crap they use to make them.......A liberal like Gore getting an Oscar from liberal Hollywierd isn't saying a whole lot......All you have to do is make a phony movie using junk science to base it on, then bash Bush a couple of times and youre a sure win.......
 

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Oscars aren't worth the crap they use to make them.......A liberal like Gore getting an Oscar from liberal Hollywierd isn't saying a whole lot......All you have to do is make a phony movie using junk science to base it on, then bash Bush a couple of times and youre a sure win.......
That's right. Look at Michael Moore.
 

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Al Gore needs all that energy for his ongoing efforts to protect us from the manbearpig. I'm serial.
 

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Besides being a radical liberal, Gore is a radical idiot.

He invented the internet.
"Love Story" was based on Al and Tipper.

Uh huh...riiight.

BubbaBob
Why must you post untruthful posts? The only people who believe that Gore said he invented the Internet are ticked off Conservatives who want to believe he said it so they can use it to attack him...well the truth is not what you're claiming it is and it is boring to read that you actually are spreading more propaganda!

Urban Legends Reference Pages: Internet of Lies
 

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Gore just scored a knockout over the Republican Party's smearmeister. Drudge, of course, proceeded to smear Gore as a hypocrite, and of course, the FOX Noise Channel picked up on it. The facts are actually the following:

1) Gore only buys green power, that is, power that is not produced by fossil fuels. He pays more per kwh for that power than he would with fossil fuels through a company called Green Power Switch.

2) A lot of the power at the Gore home comes from solar panels. Drudge failed to mention that too, didn't he?

3) Finally, Gore purchases offsets, another thing Drudge did not mention.

Sorry, Swiftboaters. There is nothing there for you. Think about what you are going to whine about next.

Article is here.

Maddox said it best:

Of course, having a show in which the hosts prattle on and on about conservation and environmental causes, it makes you wonder how they're able to do it without sounding like giant hypocrites as they fly around on helicopters and jets, all while using enough electricity to power a small city. Simply put: they can't, but that doesn't stop them from trying.

The way they try to avoid this nagging ideological contradiction is by stating: "Trippin' has offset all the pollution created from energy use in making the show, to ensure that it would not contribute to global warming." They supposedly do this by buying "clean air credits." Great idea *******s, so instead of owning up to your shitty ideals and not polluting, you pay someone else not to pollute. Maybe we should all try to pay someone off every time we want to do something that might inconvenience us. I was going to go on a diet, but it's too hard, so I'm going to pay someone else to diet for me. I was going to do a show about community service, but doing the actual work was too inconvenient, so I'm going to pay someone to do it for me. Eat **** you elitist morons.


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