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GOP Vote Suppression Efforts Continue

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Day after day, the GOP makes the United States look more and more like a tin pot, third-world failed state.
 
The GOP is going to try hard to interfere in the election, I think they know that if it's fair, they're gonna get their **** kicked in.
 
Day after day, the GOP makes the United States look more and more like a tin pot, third-world failed state.

That would be the dems that do that.

The dems have had quite a while to address items they wanted to and they wait until <90 days before the election now to do so?

They should have been working on this stuff a long time ago instead of fraudulently trying to impeach and convict Trump over some stupid phone call that no one gave a damn about, per the results.
 
That would be the dems that do that.

The dems have had quite a while to address items they wanted to and they wait until <90 days before the election now to do so?

They should have been working on this stuff a long time ago instead of fraudulently trying to impeach and convict Trump over some stupid phone call that no one gave a damn about, per the results.

Protecting voting rights and election integrity is the first thing they did when they took back the House: H.R.1 - For the People Act of 2019.

It passed the House on March 8, 2019. Moscow Mitch wasn't interested.

Unfortunately, more than a year and a half later the Dems have to keep pressing these issues because the last thing the GOP wants is free and fair elections.
 
Protecting voting rights and election integrity is the first thing they did when they took back the House: H.R.1 - For the People Act of 2019.

It passed the House on March 8, 2019. Moscow Mitch wasn't interested.

Unfortunately, more than a year and a half later the Dems have to keep pressing these issues because the last thing the GOP wants is free and fair elections.

Crazy Pelosi has pushed through dozens, if not hundreds of partisan democratic bills in the house - all of which are collecting dust on Mitch's desk.

No point in bringing them before the Senate (i.e., wasting time on them) as they will never pass the GOP senate.

Pelosi has some bills from Mitch on her desk too collecting dust that she refuses to bring before the House.

All Pelosi wants is pork, pork, pork so that she and the dems can tell the folks back home that they passed stupid-ass bills that do nothing except give money to places like the Kennedy Center, which 99.999% of US residents do not benefit from.

If the Kennedy Center and other pet Pelosi projects can't make it on their own without tens of millions of taxpayer dollars, they should file bankruptcy and close permanently. It is ridiculous that Pelosi included $25 million in the last stimulus bill for the Kennedy Center. Let the damn place close its doors if it cannot support itself.

It was a stimulus bill, not Pelosi's pet project bill.

"Protecting Voting Rights" - did Trump sign that bill after the Senate passed it? Or did that not happen because it is another super-partisan purely democratic bill with no republicans supporting it?

If not, it is merely another pet Pelosi project that will cost federal taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars.
 
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Crazy Pelosi has pushed through dozens, if not hundreds of partisan democratic bills in the house - all of which are collecting dust on Mitch's desk.

No point in bringing them before the Senate (i.e., wasting time on them) as they will never pass the GOP senate.

Pelosi has some bills from Mitch on her desk too collecting dust that she refuses to bring before the House.

All Pelosi wants is pork, pork, pork so that she and the dems can tell the folks back home that they passed stupid-ass bills that do nothing except give money to places like the Kennedy Center, which 99.999% of US residents do not benefit from.

If the Kennedy Center and other pet Pelosi projects can't make it on their own without tens of millions of taxpayer dollars, they should file bankruptcy and close permanently. It is ridiculous that Pelosi included $25 million in the last stimulus bill for the Kennedy Center. Let the damn place close its doors if it cannot support itself.

It was a stimulus bill, not Pelosi's pet project bill.

"Protecting Voting Rights" - did Trump sign that bill after the Senate passed it? Or did that not happen because it is another super-partisan purely democratic bill with no republicans supporting it?

If not, it is merely another pet Pelosi project that will cost federal taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars.

You start your simplistic rant by acknowledging what you tried to dance past before (the fact that nothing McConnell doesn’t want moves forward, sees the light of day). Then, realizing that you’d undermined your previous rant, tried to cover it up with an “they all do it” dodge.

And then you launch into an empty monologue about “pork”. Which is rich coming from a supporter of a fool who cashed out the boom, and added two trillion dollars to the national debt BEFORE the virus struck.

Like the rest of teh talk radio, fake news right wing, you’ve only very recently discovered fiscal responsibility.
 
Update:

In case there was any doubt in your heads about Trump's rationale for defunding the Post Office, he just confirmed it in plain English:

Speaking with Maria Bartiromo on Fox Business Network on Thursday morning, Trump appeared to confirm that he opposes Democrats’ proposed funding for mail-in balloting and the U.S. Postal Service in order to make it more difficult to expand voting by mail.
“Now they need that money in order to make the post office work, so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots,” he said. “But if they don’t get those two items, that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting, because they’re not equipped to have it.”

Trump has never been good at keeping the quiet part quiet.
 
Update:

In case there was any doubt in your heads about Trump's rationale for defunding the Post Office, he just confirmed it in plain English:

Speaking with Maria Bartiromo on Fox Business Network on Thursday morning, Trump appeared to confirm that he opposes Democrats’ proposed funding for mail-in balloting and the U.S. Postal Service in order to make it more difficult to expand voting by mail.
“Now they need that money in order to make the post office work, so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots,” he said. “But if they don’t get those two items, that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting, because they’re not equipped to have it.”

Trump has never been good at keeping the quiet part quiet.

Absolutely insane! I thought maybe, just maybe the Post Office stuff was just the usual Trump government incompetence and corruption, but no, he really does want to suppress votes and he's not afraid to admit it!
 
You start your simplistic rant by acknowledging what you tried to dance past before (the fact that nothing McConnell doesn’t want moves forward, sees the light of day). Then, realizing that you’d undermined your previous rant, tried to cover it up with an “they all do it” dodge.

And then you launch into an empty monologue about “pork”. Which is rich coming from a supporter of a fool who cashed out the boom, and added two trillion dollars to the national debt BEFORE the virus struck.

Like the rest of teh talk radio, fake news right wing, you’ve only very recently discovered fiscal responsibility.

I think that you need psychiatric help more than I do! :)
 
How the hell did Obama get elected if the GOP suppress voters?
 
Update:

In case there was any doubt in your heads about Trump's rationale for defunding the Post Office, he just confirmed it in plain English:

Speaking with Maria Bartiromo on Fox Business Network on Thursday morning, Trump appeared to confirm that he opposes Democrats’ proposed funding for mail-in balloting and the U.S. Postal Service in order to make it more difficult to expand voting by mail.
“Now they need that money in order to make the post office work, so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots,” he said. “But if they don’t get those two items, that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting, because they’re not equipped to have it.”

Trump has never been good at keeping the quiet part quiet.

Democrats clearly believe mass ballot blanket mailings where they are treated like ads as opposed to ballots mailed upon voter request will help only Democrats. How about that turkey?
 
It is fact that the GOP practices voter suppression. This is not in question. The only question is how widespread it is and how effective it is at pushing elections into the GOP's favor.

Voter suppression in the United States - Wikipedia

By every measure, it is more widespread and more effective than voter fraud.

I voted both in CA and in Idaho. No suppression was ever in evidence. Why the blanket mail ballots?

Democrat believe it will benefit just them. That is what all the noise is over and the faux outrage at Trump.

Oh your link on voter suppression has this warning from Wikipedia.

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The GOP is going to try hard to interfere in the election, I think they know that if it's fair, they're gonna get their **** kicked in.

Republicans can't pass laws all by themselves. Also how did Clinton then Obama manage to be elected with all this mysterious voter suppression? Both twice got elected. Suppression is pure BS.

Here is what is happening: Democrats know for a fact that Biden will be beaten by Trump. So one more time since the 1980s, the old voter suppression con job shows up.

Who suppressed voted in our past. It was always Democrats.
 
Republicans can't pass laws all by themselves. Also how did Clinton then Obama manage to be elected with all this mysterious voter suppression? Both twice got elected. Suppression is pure BS.

Here is what is happening: Democrats know for a fact that Biden will be beaten by Trump. So one more time since the 1980s, the old voter suppression con job shows up.

Who suppressed voted in our past. It was always Democrats.

Yeah, but they can close down voting sites and then appoint a corrupt toadie to the USPS to undercut the Postal Service and try to discredit Mail-In voting.

Who is suppressing votes now? It's always the Republicans.
 
Biden could have totally spiked the deck by adding say Susan Rice to his ticket. She is a rabid Democrat, a pure black and pure woman.

But he spiked the deck for a part black, part Indian ( think of Nikki Haley, part Indian) as a good example. Harris has a white last name derived from Jamaica and her family were well known slave owners.

Biden made a terrible decision for a man claiming to want to win.
 
How the hell did Obama get elected if the GOP suppress voters?

That's exactly why they're doing it. The GOP doesn't want people of color voting, or getting elected President.
 
Yeah, but they can close down voting sites and then appoint a corrupt toadie to the USPS to undercut the Postal Service and try to discredit Mail-In voting.

Who is suppressing votes now? It's always the Republicans.

No republicans can't do any of that.

It is kool as Donald says to have absentee Ballots. Those arrive by mail but only when the voter seeks such a ballot. This time is different. Democrats hope to essentially force many voters to vote but not for republicans, just for Democrats so we know the mailings are going to be totally corrupt. If republicans were the party demanding mail to all ballots, you know Democrats would scream voter suppression. Well Democrats are suppressing votes.

Can you honestly imagine the Democrat party soliciting the votes of the Republicans?

:roll: If you Democrats think Democrats want to enhance republicans voting ... well :rofl
 
Biden could have totally spiked the deck by adding say Susan Rice to his ticket. She is a rabid Democrat, a pure black and pure woman.

But he spiked the deck for a part black, part Indian ( think of Nikki Haley, part Indian) as a good example. Harris has a white last name derived from Jamaica and her family were well known slave owners.

Biden made a terrible decision for a man claiming to want to win.

Biden made the right choice. We can tell by how it has apparently fried what little brains Trump and the conservatives have left.
 
No republicans can't do any of that.

It is kool as Donald says to have absentee Ballots. Those arrive by mail but only when the voter seeks such a ballot. This time is different. Democrats hope to essentially force many voters to vote but not for republicans, just for Democrats so we know the mailings are going to be totally corrupt. If republicans were the party demanding mail to all ballots, you know Democrats would scream voter suppression. Well Democrats are suppressing votes.

Can you honestly imagine the Democrat party soliciting the votes of the Republicans?

:roll: If you Democrats think Democrats want to enhance republicans voting ... well :rofl

No one can force others to vote.

But Trump even admitted that he was cutting the USPS to undermine Mail-In voting. So obviously they can do that because they ARE doing that.
 
That would be the dems that do that.

The dems have had quite a while to address items they wanted to and they wait until <90 days before the election now to do so?

They should have been working on this stuff a long time ago instead of fraudulently trying to impeach and convict Trump over some stupid phone call that no one gave a damn about, per the results.

Democrats did work on this stuff months ago. Republicans blocked it. Now you have no objections, right?

This is the weakest argument I’ve ever seen someone make. ‘If you didn’t do a good thing earlier, it’s now a bad thing!’
 
That's exactly why they're doing it. The GOP doesn't want people of color voting, or getting elected President.

Well, we're a long way from recognizing others as the unique individuals they are and focusing on the content of their character and their political views too when we play identity politics.

But Biden could have gone with Duckworth. She might have attracted the military vote, and she also has two identity-politics cards to play.

More than 100 Black men urge Biden to pick Black woman as Vice President - CNNPolitics
 
That's exactly why they're doing it. The GOP doesn't want people of color voting, or getting elected President.

There are not any cases of voter suppression since the law stopped Democrats from doing it. Until when Democrats plan to mass mail to only Democrats. Do not think they plan to mail such ballots mass to the republicans.

You guys want me to believe you want more republicans to vote? Tell that to a believer.
 
Democrats hope to essentially force many voters to vote but not for republicans, just for Democrats so we know the mailings are going to be totally corrupt.
Hey bob, the grifter in the WH is trying to slow down the mail for ballots sent AND returned.

Wake the **** up!
 
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