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GOP senator Susan Collins: Why I cannot support Trump

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Well, good for her, but I am less than impressed. She wrote:

"Some will say that as a Republican I have an obligation to support my party’s nominee. I have thought long and hard about that, for being a Republican is part of what defines me as a person. I revere the history of my party, most particularly the value it has always placed on the worth and dignity of the individual, and I will continue to work across the country for Republican candidates. It is because of Mr. Trump’s inability and unwillingness to honor that legacy that I am unable to support his candidacy."

I don't think Collins is really embracing reality here. Trump is not an aberration, Trump is the inevitable consequence of a political party that consciously embraced racism and nativism that began with Nixon's Southern Strategy.

The country needs two strong, moderate, centrist parties. In now only has one.
 

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Just came out... OP ed by Maine Republican Senator Susan Collins:

GOP senator Susan Collins: Why I cannot support Trump

The snowball seems to be building.

From what I just heard on the telly, she has no intention of voting for/supporting Hillary either. Independant? Libertarian perhaps?

One less elected official for Trump.

I can't imagine this hurting him any more than others who have made similar declarations. But the more days that there are stories like this leading the news, the fewer days there are for Trump to try and get a more favorable story as the news lead.
 

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So this is a couple of Senators and a Governor who have refused thus far?

Good. The credibility of the GOP in 2018 will depend on it's ability to say that it did not accede to, nor was it represented by, Trump in 2016.
 

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So this is a couple of Senators and a Governor who have refused thus far?

Good. The credibility of the GOP in 2018 will depend on it's ability to say that it did not accede to, nor was it represented by, Trump in 2016.

Eventually, most Republicans will say that. Will it be too late?
 

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I don't think Collins is really embracing reality here. Trump is not an aberration, Trump is the inevitable consequence of a political party that consciously embraced racism and nativism
Jeez, talk about not embracing reality! You need to think and not believe all you are told by the left.
 

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Eventually, most Republicans will say that. Will it be too late?
Probably. Trump will become the new Southern Strategy, hung around Republican necks for a generation.

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So this is a couple of Senators and a Governor who have refused thus far?

Good. The credibility of the GOP in 2018 will depend on it's ability to say that it did not accede to, nor was it represented by, Trump in 2016.

Most of it has been concentrated in high and mid-level former staffers and officers.

I, too, welcome this.
 

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Well, good for her, but I am less than impressed. She wrote:

"Some will say that as a Republican I have an obligation to support my party’s nominee. I have thought long and hard about that, for being a Republican is part of what defines me as a person. I revere the history of my party, most particularly the value it has always placed on the worth and dignity of the individual, and I will continue to work across the country for Republican candidates. It is because of Mr. Trump’s inability and unwillingness to honor that legacy that I am unable to support his candidacy."

I don't think Collins is really embracing reality here. Trump is not an aberration, Trump is the inevitable consequence of a political party that consciously embraced racism and nativism that began with Nixon's Southern Strategy.

The country needs two strong, moderate, centrist parties. In now only has one.

that's hackery at is silly worst. How was Romney or McCain part of that trend? or GHWB or Dole. The DNC has gone more left than the GOP has gone right
 

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The country needs two strong, moderate, centrist parties. In now only has one.

Open borders and race-baiting are a centrist strategy for you?

Good luck with that. :roll:
 

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that's hackery at is silly worst. How was Romney or McCain part of that trend? or GHWB or Dole. The DNC has gone more left than the GOP has gone right

It would depend on what the GOP has moved to the "far right" on.

If we are to say race relations, yeah thanks to Trump its way off the deep end. LGBT well that's up to debate given Trump's rather moderate response to gay marriage or the bathroom thing and the rather stiff party platform. It's relationship with levels of government, again, that's certainly up for debate because Trump is a different breed from Paul Ryan or Ted Cruz.

If it were not for ethnic tensions and sheer anti-minority populism of the GOP, you could easily make the argument that the Democratic Party is on the verge of going full pinko. Well, maybe not full Pinko, because traditional pinkos don't need safe spaces.

Trumpism and some remnants of the Tea Party are the only things making the Democrats look normal.
 

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So this is a couple of Senators and a Governor who have refused thus far?

Good. The credibility of the GOP in 2018 will depend on it's ability to say that it did not accede to, nor was it represented by, Trump in 2016.

Eventually, most Republicans will say that. Will it be too late?
If Trump stays down in the polls or tanks even further, as it gets closer to the election they will be like rats fleeing the sinking ship to save themselves!
 

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So this is a couple of Senators and a Governor who have refused thus far?

Good. The credibility of the GOP in 2018 will depend on it's ability to say that it did not accede to, nor was it represented by, Trump in 2016.

The GOP had no credibility some time ago, and refusing to support the person who got the most votes ever in a GOP Primary is a good way to make sure that sticks for years.
 

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Well, good for her, but I am less than impressed. She wrote:

"Some will say that as a Republican I have an obligation to support my party’s nominee. I have thought long and hard about that, for being a Republican is part of what defines me as a person. I revere the history of my party, most particularly the value it has always placed on the worth and dignity of the individual, and I will continue to work across the country for Republican candidates. It is because of Mr. Trump’s inability and unwillingness to honor that legacy that I am unable to support his candidacy."

I don't think Collins is really embracing reality here. Trump is not an aberration, Trump is the inevitable consequence of a political party that consciously embraced racism and nativism that began with Nixon's Southern Strategy.

The country needs two strong, moderate, centrist parties. In now only has one.

The most amazing part of this is that you think a party led by Barack Obama in the past and Hillary Clinton in the future should be described with the word centrist.
 

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Well, good for her, but I am less than impressed. She wrote:

"Some will say that as a Republican I have an obligation to support my party’s nominee. I have thought long and hard about that, for being a Republican is part of what defines me as a person. I revere the history of my party, most particularly the value it has always placed on the worth and dignity of the individual, and I will continue to work across the country for Republican candidates. It is because of Mr. Trump’s inability and unwillingness to honor that legacy that I am unable to support his candidacy."

I don't think Collins is really embracing reality here. Trump is not an aberration, Trump is the inevitable consequence of a political party that consciously embraced racism and nativism that began with Nixon's Southern Strategy.

The country needs two strong, moderate, centrist parties. In now only has one.

Sure, all of the wonderful Lincoln Republicans all of the sudden said "Hey, Nixon's appeasing the southern voters, lets become racists like the Democrats!".

Btw, since the parties switched overnight, like you allege, would you call yourself a Hoover, Harding, and Coolidge man? Are those your old school heroes?
 

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Eventually, most Republicans will say that. Will it be too late?

I truly hope not. Collins and the others are letting everyone know that Trump doesn't represent us. We are not Muslim haters. We are not antagonists. We are not crude, ignorant, foul mouthed, low class bullies. We are not anti-Mexican. We are also not Democrats, like Trump is.
 

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Just came out... OP ed by Maine Republican Senator Susan Collins:

GOP senator Susan Collins: Why I cannot support Trump

The snowball seems to be building.

Trump created many enemies of lifelong Republicans during the primaries with all the feuds he stated with the Bushes, Cruz, Kasich, Rubio, McCain, Ryan and many more. He constantly attacked the Republican elected officials and the so called party establishment. This Republican of just 3 years attacked the conservative principals of the GOP, he made everything personal, he called his opponents names and made up things about them

He really didn't win the primaries, nomination on substance or bringing forth new ideas to solve this nations problems, he doesn't have a vision of where he wants to take America into the future outside of his slogan of making American great again and building a wall. Trump really doesn't have any political philosophy and ideology, he just says and does whatever pops into his head. Say something bad about him and Trump goes into full vendetta mode to trash you. Very thin skinned is this man.

It is a shame that 40% of Republicans latched onto him as some sort of messiah when any decent Republican candidate would have defeated Clinton handily. By nominating Trump, that portion of the Republican Party who supported him guaranteed a President Hillary Clinton. The writing was on the wall in ever poll taken from December of 2015 through today in head to head competition. But the Republicans were more interested, at least Trump supporters in making a statement than winning in November. Now we will have a president no one wants outside of her Democratic circles. But she is seen as the lesser of two evils, the least horrible candidate, the candidate a bit less disliked or hated will end up the winner. What a shame.
 

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The most amazing part of this is that you think a party led by Barack Obama in the past and Hillary Clinton in the future should be described with the word centrist.

Barack Obama ended up being far more centrist than anyone expected him to be.
 

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Well, good for her, but I am less than impressed. She wrote:

"Some will say that as a Republican I have an obligation to support my party’s nominee. I have thought long and hard about that, for being a Republican is part of what defines me as a person. I revere the history of my party, most particularly the value it has always placed on the worth and dignity of the individual, and I will continue to work across the country for Republican candidates. It is because of Mr. Trump’s inability and unwillingness to honor that legacy that I am unable to support his candidacy."

I don't think Collins is really embracing reality here. Trump is not an aberration, Trump is the inevitable consequence of a political party that consciously embraced racism and nativism that began with Nixon's Southern Strategy.

The country needs two strong, moderate, centrist parties. In now only has one.

The party of racists is the Democrats. It started long before Nixon and continues today. Jim Crow laws, the school desegregation fight, all Democrats. Today, Democrats host the ghettos, the non-performing schools, the massive unemployment, and the unending poverty of welfare.

As it stands now the two major parties are both running Democrat candidates but one, who calls himself the King of Debt, is running as a Republican.
 

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Jeez, talk about not embracing reality! You need to think and not believe all you are told by the left.

A man who has made the millions he inherited into three billion has done so by fleecing suckers. He's now found a new group of suckers to fleece. The funniest thing is they think they're embracing reality when in fact it's a con man's fantasy. Some people thought they'd learn how to get rich by borrowing money and attending Trump University. Others thought the casino was the way to make money and some thought Trump's junk bonds were safe. He even screwed the Polish illegal aliens who worked on his construction jobs. And now, amazingly, he has a new crop of suckers who actually believe what he says, even when he contradicts himself. Incredible.
 

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Probably. Trump will become the new Southern Strategy, hung around Republican necks for a generation.

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Possibly. Otherwise the Democrats will have Obama and Clinton hung around their neck. Americans are faced with two unacceptable choices being offered by what have been the two major parties.
 

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that's hackery at is silly worst. How was Romney or McCain part of that trend? or GHWB or Dole. The DNC has gone more left than the GOP has gone right

Actually, thinking back over the succession of candidates that you have named, it's fairly apparent that the GOP has slowly been moving to the center, or towards the (RINO) left as it may be.
Hardcore Republicanism can no longer attract enough voters.

The GOP will always do well in the mid terms. Their voters always seem to show up at the polls where as the Dems mostly only vote when the Presidency is on the ballot.

It is what it is. Get the Dems to the polls in the mid term elections and the GOP will cease to exist.
 

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the liberal socialist republicans like susan collins ,are sounding like the liberal socialist democrats,they all fear trump,collins is a liberal socialist,she is part of the problem.


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