GOP committee passes resolution to cancel Republican primary due to Trump’s ‘effective presidency’

[Helix]

And Trump is owned by Pewtin.

Something does seem fishy there. I'll be interested to read Mueller's report.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Something does seem fishy there. I'll be interested to read Mueller's report.

Well until it says no Russia collusion at which point you’ll just say Mueller was compromised


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[Mycroft]

You know, a lot of outrage boiled over when the DNC effectively locked Bernie out, but Bernie was not a Democrat, so at least for me, it wasn't that much of a surprise. I was hoping a miracle would occur, or that Bernie might finally do an eleventh hour switch and join the Dems, but in the end the door was slammed on his foot.

But now...NOW...we're talking about a party that wants to slam the door on actual Republican party MEMBERS!
And that, if I am not mistaken, is unprecedented, especially considering the fact that 2016 saw a field of SEVENTEEN contenders, so this is a total 180.

And it reeks of something extremely anti-democratic, other Republicans *NEED NOT APPLY.
Wow...just WOW.

(This means YOU, *John Kasich!)

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'll point out that the Republicans are doing things out in the open and according to their own rules. The rank and file Republicans will have their say in the matter.

Nobody can say the same about the Democrats in respect to Sanders, who did run as a Democrat.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Cancel the GOP primary?

THAT is how you avoid being primaried.

Can you imagine if someone like a Romney/Mattis ticket emerged? And Trump had to either sit on the sidelines or go out and stump for these guys, knowing his party had had enough of his BS?

The primary process would tell early on if Trump was going to be a lame duck.

Can't take that chance. Cancel the primary. End of story.

 

[Helix]

Well until it says no Russia collusion at which point you’ll just say Mueller was compromised


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I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or people in the campaign.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/rudy-giuliani-bombshell-collusion-trump-campaign

:lol:

 

[Slyfox696]

As a party, they have every right to do this. I believe they may come to regret this decision, especially if Pence ends up somehow caught up in the Mueller probe as well, but I understand why they are doing it.

The Republican Party is not doing this because they are 100% behind Trump. They are doing it because so many in their party is not 100% behind Trump and the last thing they want is for Trump to take a beating he would obviously take in a primary by the more traditional Republicans. This measure is probably their best chance to get Trump re-elected and their best chance to keep the Presidency.

The problem is many people expect the Mueller investigation to drop some serious bombshells this year that will likely do quite a bit of harm to Trump. The Republican party, short of Trump voluntarily stepping aside and not seeking re-election, has no good option.

How did this happen? I'm serious. What happened to our party?

A black man was elected President at the same time social media granted every ignorant moron a platform to spew their hatred.

That is what happened to the Republican Party.

This can't be real. I get the feeling there will be a "correction" later. I put the quotes in there because the media knows it does a ****ty job validating stories but they want those initial clicks and the new narrative always sticks more than the corrections.

That aside, if it does happen then screw them...they don't deserve to win anything for a while.

I must say, your comment pleasantly surprises me. I mean that sincerely.

This is why people should check their sources. rawstory is a hack site that should never be posted as a serious story.
here is a real source.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/04/6819...-challenge-to-trump-but-the-rules-may-stop-th

some members wanted to block it, but the rules cannot be changed.

Interesting find too, though your link is dated a couple weeks behind the link in the OP. Time will tell soon enough who is correct.

Well until it says no Russia collusion at which point you’ll just say Mueller was compromised

Considering we already know for a fact there was collusion (PapaD, Don Jr., Flynn, Cohen, Russian indictments, etc.), your posting of Russian propaganda is both laughable and suspicious.

 

[CEngelbrecht]

Well until it says no Russia collusion at which point you’ll just say Mueller was compromised

Yeah, that's right.



#AvengeMccain

 

[EMNofSeattle]

As a party, they have every right to do this. I believe they may come to regret this decision, especially if Pence ends up somehow caught up in the Mueller probe as well, but I understand why they are doing it.

The Republican Party is not doing this because they are 100% behind Trump. They are doing it because so many in their party is not 100% behind Trump and the last thing they want is for Trump to take a beating he would obviously take in a primary by the more traditional Republicans. This measure is probably their best chance to get Trump re-elected and their best chance to keep the Presidency.

The problem is many people expect the Mueller investigation to drop some serious bombshells this year that will likely do quite a bit of harm to Trump. The Republican party, short of Trump voluntarily stepping aside and not seeking re-election, has no good option.
A black man was elected President at the same time social media granted every ignorant moron a platform to spew their hatred.

That is what happened to the Republican Party.
I must say, your comment pleasantly surprises me. I mean that sincerely.
Interesting find too, though your link is dated a couple weeks behind the link in the OP. Time will tell soon enough who is correct.
Considering we already know for a fact there was collusion (PapaD, Don Jr., Flynn, Cohen, Russian indictments, etc.), your posting of Russian propaganda is both laughable and suspicious.

In fact there was no collusion period and Flynn and Cohen have nothing to do with Russia, in fact they would not have been indicted if Trump was smart enough to purge all the Clintonistas from the justice department


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[tres borrachos]

In fact there was no collusion period and Flynn and Cohen have nothing to do with Russia, in fact they would not have been indicted if Trump was smart enough to purge all the Clintonistas from the justice department


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When did Mueller release his report, and how come he only shared it with you?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'll point out that the Republicans are doing things out in the open and according to their own rules. The rank and file Republicans will have their say in the matter.

Nobody can say the same about the Democrats in respect to Sanders, who did run as a Democrat.

He was not a member of the Democratic Party.
The RNC's proposal locks out EVERYONE, not just folks "running as" Republicans, but actual card carrying Republicans.
Herr Trump, and ONLY Herr Trump, is the only one allowed to run if this proposal goes through.

The DNC locking out Sanders WAS according to their rules, which flatly state that only members of the party are eligible for funding and support.

It's a good thing rank and file Republicans will have their say in the matter because I doubt you'd be recognized as anything but a Trumpista who does have a god in this fight...err oops, (I meant to say "dog") as signified by you saying "I don't have a dog in this fight".
Did you feel you needed to clarify that for some reason?

 

[VanceMack]

They passed a resolution of support...but can any of you point to ANYTHING that was passed indicating the cancellation of the GOP Primary?

 

[Hicup]

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/re...-gop-primary-due-trumps-effective-presidency/

OMG you people are so gullible.. LOL


Tim-

 

[Mycroft]

He was not a member of the Democratic Party.

This was after he lost the primary.

Do you consider yourself a Democrat?
Right now, I am a Democrat obviously and we’re going to fight as hard as we can to transform the Democratic Party. So that’s where I am right now.

Right now?
No. It’s fair to say that’s where I am and that’s where I’ll stay.

Does that mean you're going to be changing your website?
No. I was elected as an independent from Vermont in this cycle and I will certainly stay that way for the next two years.

And then when you come back, it will say D-Vt?
If I come back. You’ve gotten me elected already and you’ve got me running. But we’ll see.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...rty-affiliation-not-simple-question/87666494/

We also have his FEC Form 2 Statement of Candidacy in which he states his party affiliation is Democratic Party.

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/vpr/files/201505/Sanders-2016-FEC-Form-2.pdf
​

The RNC's proposal locks out EVERYONE, not just folks "running as" Republicans, but actual card carrying Republicans.
Trump, is the only one allowed to run if this proposal goes through.

The RNC, according to their rules, have the ability to do this.
​

The DNC locking out Sanders WAS according to their rules, which flatly state that only members of the party are eligible for funding and support.

The DNC didn't lock out Sanders. They secretly worked against him.

So we have….

Many, many, many irregularities in the primaries. Not a few states, but most states. All favoring Hillary.

Bias by the Party for Hillary and emails proving that there is bias.

A Stanford study showing that irregularities highly favored Hillary in States that had electronic voting machines without a paper trail.

An email showing that two companies that make those machines donated to Hillary’s campaign.

Hillary hiring the person in charge of the DNC moments after she is forced to resign for bias.

https://www.quora.com/How-exactly-did-the-DNC-work-against-Bernie-Sanders

~snipped the nonsense~

As I said...unlike the Dems, the Reps are doing this according to their own rules.​

 

[Slyfox696]

In fact there was no collusion period and Flynn and Cohen have nothing to do with Russia, in fact they would not have been indicted if Trump was smart enough to purge all the Clintonistas from the justice department

The problem with what you stated is that it is 100% a lie. Flynn was indicted by Robert Mueller, who was appointed FBI director by Bush 2 and brought in as special counsel by Rosenstein, a Trump appointee. Cohen was indicted by SDNY, based on a referral made to them by Mueller, who was brought in by Trump appointee Rosenstein.

Furthermore, with the exception of the indicted Russians, everyone I mentioned has ADMITTED, in a court of law, to their work with Russia. So you cannot say they did not collude with Russia when they have out righted admitted in a court of law that they did.

Again, your posting of Russian propaganda is laughable and suspicious.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

This was after he lost the primary.



We also have his FEC Form 2 Statement of Candidacy in which he states his party affiliation is Democratic Party.

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/vpr/files/201505/Sanders-2016-FEC-Form-2.pdf
​

You need to stop lying AND insulting our intelligence. Party affiliation and party membership are two dissimilar things and you just exposed yourself as a revisionist. AGAIN.

WIKI

Bernard Sanders (born September 8, 1941) is an American politician serving as the junior United States Senator from Vermont since 2007. The longest-serving Independent in congressional history, he was first elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1990 and caucuses with the Democratic Party, enabling his appointment to congressional committees and at times giving Democrats a majority.

POLITICO

His Senate website and press materials continue to label him as an "independent" while his campaign website lists him as a "Democratic candidate." In his home state of Vermont, there is no party registration.

This Week with George Stephanopolous

"I am proud of the fact that that I am a longest serving Independent in the history of the United States Congress. That's what the people of Vermont voted for. I made a decision in this presidential election that I will run as a Democrat."

SEVEN DAYS (Vermont)

"According to campaign spokesperson Arianna Jones, Sanders plans to seek the Democratic nomination in Vermont’s August primary. If he wins, she said, he would “respectfully” decline the nomination and run as an independent in the general election. Sanders would, however, accept the endorsement of the Vermont Democratic Party."

You do YOU, the rest of us will do our thing, and liberals and Democrats will do theirs. You do not control liberal messaging and you never will.

 

[Mycroft]

You need to stop lying AND insulting our intelligence. Party affiliation and party membership are two dissimilar things and you just exposed yourself as a revisionist. AGAIN.

WIKI


POLITICO


This Week with George Stephanopolous


SEVEN DAYS (Vermont)


You do YOU, the rest of us will do our thing, and liberals and Democrats will do theirs. You do not control liberal messaging and you never will.

shrug...

I quoted his own words.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

shrug...

I quoted his own words.

Look, try and get this...apologies for the lengthy reply and I sincerely hope you do read it:

Sanders did himself a disservice in 2016 because he steadfastly refused to actually JOIN the party.
I'm not even talking about "joining in 2015 or 2016" either. I'm talking 2008, because as I am sure you can imagine, most candidates usually have to gain enough juice INSIDE their party in order to convince the establishment mavens and big muckety mucks to accept them.

Sanders was not willing to try and curry establishment favor so he stuck by his own foolish and sentimental attachment to a romanticized past as an iconoclast who "dared to call himself a socialist". You yourself LOVE to cast aspersions on scruffy left wing socialist couch potatoes, so this should not even surprise you in the least because you're accurately describing the Bernie Sanders of the 1960's and 70's when you talk like that. Yes, that IS what he was back then. He wasn't even a very good carpenter.

Sanders himself missed the notion that he could have applied his considerable charisma and mojo and could have created enough of a wave to tunnel through chinks in the party apparatus back in 2008 and by 2012, he would have amassed approximately the same popularity as he finally accrued in the 2016 campaign season.
And here is where it gets REALLY interesting:
Sanders surprised EVERYONE in the DNC establishment by eschewing big corporate donations.

It's no longer cool to have those kinds of funding if you expect to be given a true liberal imprimatur.
Sanders upset all traditions, and I guarantee you anybody in the party who DOES take those kinds of donations will not place in the primaries. That was proven in the midterms when almost every corporate backed Dem either got booted or damn close.
The word is on the streets now. If you expect to gain liberal bonafides, big corporate cash is suicide.

The DNC establishment is coming to the realization that the new breed of progressive liberals will actually attract something they desperately need, new voters. Those voters already flexed their muscle a couple of months ago and they're going to do it again in 2020, and the establishment is beginning to realize that they can no more stop this transformation than even John McCain could stop the Tea Party, whose current living exponents pissed on his grave when he died.
Democratic establishment don't want their graves to be pissed on while they're still alive and serving.

Bernie should have joined the party YEARS AGO if he wanted to win, but instead he drove with the PARKING BRAKE ON.
I love the guy but he did a very dumb thing.

And this should make YOU very happy: Even former Sanders supporters are telling him not to run.
Okay, maybe that might not make you happy. I dunno. :lamo

Cheers...

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

shrug...

I quoted his own words.

PS: I realize you quoted his own words, and it's true, you aren't lying.
Thing is, Bernie Sanders likes to "borrow the Democratic Party" when it suits him.
And while Democratic Congress critters don't seem to mind, the party apparatus seems to take umbrage at the idea.

 

[Mycroft]

Look, try and get this...apologies for the lengthy reply and I sincerely hope you do read it:

Sanders did himself a disservice in 2016 because he steadfastly refused to actually JOIN the party.
I'm not even talking about "joining in 2015 or 2016" either. I'm talking 2008, because as I am sure you can imagine, most candidates usually have to gain enough juice INSIDE their party in order to convince the establishment mavens and big muckety mucks to accept them.

Sanders was not willing to try and curry establishment favor so he stuck by his own foolish and sentimental attachment to a romanticized past as an iconoclast who "dared to call himself a socialist". You yourself LOVE to cast aspersions on scruffy left wing socialist couch potatoes, so this should not even surprise you in the least because you're accurately describing the Bernie Sanders of the 1960's and 70's when you talk like that. Yes, that IS what he was back then. He wasn't even a very good carpenter.

Sanders himself missed the notion that he could have applied his considerable charisma and mojo and could have created enough of a wave to tunnel through chinks in the party apparatus back in 2008 and by 2012, he would have amassed approximately the same popularity as he finally accrued in the 2016 campaign season.
And here is where it gets REALLY interesting:
Sanders surprised EVERYONE in the DNC establishment by eschewing big corporate donations.

It's no longer cool to have those kinds of funding if you expect to be given a true liberal imprimatur.
Sanders upset all traditions, and I guarantee you anybody in the party who DOES take those kinds of donations will not place in the primaries. That was proven in the midterms when almost every corporate backed Dem either got booted or damn close.
The word is on the streets now. If you expect to gain liberal bonafides, big corporate cash is suicide.

The DNC establishment is coming to the realization that the new breed of progressive liberals will actually attract something they desperately need, new voters. Those voters already flexed their muscle a couple of months ago and they're going to do it again in 2020, and the establishment is beginning to realize that they can no more stop this transformation than even John McCain could stop the Tea Party, whose current living exponents pissed on his grave when he died.
Democratic establishment don't want their graves to be pissed on while they're still alive and serving.

Bernie should have joined the party YEARS AGO if he wanted to win, but instead he drove with the PARKING BRAKE ON.
I love the guy but he did a very dumb thing.

And this should make YOU very happy: Even former Sanders supporters are telling him not to run.
Okay, maybe that might not make you happy. I dunno. :lamo

Cheers...

I read your post. Frankly, I don't care as much about Sanders as you seem to. Shrug...

In any case, nothing in your post supports your objections to my contentions about Sanders and the DNC during his 2016 election campaign.

Moving on...

 

[Mycroft]

PS: I realize you quoted his own words, and it's true, you aren't lying.
Thing is, Bernie Sanders likes to "borrow the Democratic Party" when it suits him.
And while Democratic Congress critters don't seem to mind, the party apparatus seems to take umbrage at the idea.

The main operator of the underhanded "get Sanders operation" was the DNC Chair...a Democratic Congress critter. Just saying...

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I read your post. Frankly, I don't care as much about Sanders as you seem to. Shrug...

In any case, nothing in your post supports your objections to my contentions about Sanders and the DNC during his 2016 election campaign.

Moving on...

You always say that when someone proves you wrong, so nothing to see here.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

The main operator of the underhanded "get Sanders operation" was the DNC Chair...a Democratic Congress critter. Just saying...

Underhanded as it might be, if you read the DNC rules, it was what they do.
What major political party has EVER nominated an outsider for POTUS ever?

When the LA Rams hit the Superbowl, (they're still in the running, yes? Have to double check) will the NFL allow the Rams to bring in a few Dallas Cowboys on the scrimmage line, announcing that Tony Romo is playing "as a Ram"?

You are so absurd.

 

[Mycroft]

You always say that when someone proves you wrong, so nothing to see here.

You didn't prove me wrong.

You are dismissed.