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Goodyear Bans MAGA Hats

The post he quoted. You pulled the "So its OK if Goodyear allows people to attack black and LGBT workers..." right out of your ass. Hence, the strawman. Not too difficult.

That isn't a strawman. A strawman is when a person misrepresented 2 or more ideas as a way to create a false premise and offers an idea that offers a solution to that false premise that is not accurate to the original idea. Goodyear has chosen to be inclusive and support equal rights for minority employees.

Goodyear can do as they wish on their own property. If you don't like it you can leave because a job is not a right.

Goodyear will survive any normal boycott from people choosing other brands for their car. Especially when someone buys another brand that is owned by Goodyear.

The company may feel a financial impact if the fans of motorsports push for a boycott of Goodyear tires at tracks.

The best policy is no offensive or politically charged clothing allowed at work to avoid any potential controversy.

NASCAR has already chosen to be racially inclusive by banning the confederate flag at its events.

Somehow I doubt that Yokahoma, BFG, Bridgestone, Pirelli, Continental, Hoosier, or other tire brands are going to choose to pander to racist MAGAites.
 
That isn't a strawman. A strawman is when a person misrepresented 2 or more ideas as a way to create a false premise and offers an idea that offers a solution to that false premise that is not accurate to the original idea. Goodyear has chosen to be inclusive and support equal rights for minority employees.

Goodyear can do as they wish on their own property. If you don't like it you can leave because a job is not a right.

Straw Man Fallacy

"A straw man fallacy occurs when someone takes another person’s argument or point, distorts it or exaggerates it in some kind of extreme way, and then attacks the extreme distortion, as if that is really the claim the first person is making."

Maybe you need to relearn what a straw man fallacy is. What you did was about as textbook as it gets.
 
Straw Man Fallacy

"A straw man fallacy occurs when someone takes another person’s argument or point, distorts it or exaggerates it in some kind of extreme way, and then attacks the extreme distortion, as if that is really the claim the first person is making."

Maybe you need to relearn what a straw man fallacy is. What you did was about as textbook as it gets.

This is what I said,

"A straw man fallacy occurs when someone takes another person’s argument or point, distorts it or exaggerates it in some kind of extreme way, and then attacks the extreme distortion, as if that is really the claim the first person is making."

Maybe you need to relearn what a straw man fallacy is. What you did was about as textbook as it gets.

Did you read what I said,

That isn't a strawman. A strawman is when a person misrepresents 2 or more ideas as a way to create a false premise and offers an idea that offers a solution to that false premise that is not accurate to the original idea.
 
We should all believe that the lives of police officers matter. Why one political party chooses to fight against this is also sad.

The other political party blames the unsuccessfulness of blacks, for example, not on blacks but on who they can blame. That is the mantra of BLM, for example. Don't blame me.
 
Fundamentally, I do agree. As I stated earlier, it should be an all or nothing. If you allow BLM then you need to allow MAGA.

The person responsible for the slides is likely to be disciplined as well, but if they find who leaked this to the net, my bet is that he'd be fired.

That's absurd. a MAGA hat endorses a political candidate. BLM calls for human rights.
 
Why do you lump BLM with MAGA? BLM was not created by a political party, it's clearly a cry for equality after years of abuse at the hands of white policemen/women. The other is a, 'me too' response by the Republican party including the president himself.

Federal agency: Supporting 'Black Lives Matter' isn't partisan or political

The angry white guys who claim black racism is a problem and claim that, "I'm a victim too" remind me of a conservative who would go to a cancer fundraiser and tell each and everyone, "THERE ARE OTHER DISEASES TOO"!

Or how about, looking up the obituaries, finding a funeral to attend and as they're lowering the casket you shout to the family of the deceased, "I HAVE FELT LOSS TOO"!...

BLM isn't political?? :lamo The roots of BLM is communist. The dem party supports BLM, supports that the black person isn't responsible for their own failures but, rather, cops are, for example. The GOP supports the idea that the black person is responsible for their own actions.

BLM is political.
 
That's absurd. a MAGA hat endorses a political candidate. BLM calls for human rights.

BLM, the human right to not blame oneself. When did not blaming oneself become a right?
 
imo, Goodyear got this wrong. BLM is political statement just as MAGA is. Companies can make whatever policies they want within the law. If I was one of their employees i would wear a All lives Matter hat/shirt and see if they write me up or fire me. It would be interesting to see them explain the policy in court.

In Lawton Ok, home to one of the largest Goodyear plants in the USofA, the explanation is simple and legal. We are a so-called 'right to work' state which is typical right wing doublespeak for right to fire. Violating the dress code once is no real big deal- sent home. Repeatedly violating- hours cut, and finally terminated for refusing to abide by company policy. But funny thing, major corporations are far more tolerant and forgiving than our state employment laws. Red states, gotta love 'em... :roll:

Now I'd bet a shiny nickle Goodyear has a few dozen very good lawyers in their HR department. Unlike tRump and his shoot from the lip idiocy they decided racial equality isn't the same as a nativist political slogan.

But when discussing who got it wrong, tRump again takes pride of place. In typical tRump fashion he shoots himself once more in the foot, which once again is in his mouth. He calls for a boycott of Goodyear which employs over 60,000 people in a swing state. He aims at the corporate management team but hits the rank and file workers he claims to love (and they are supposed to love him due to his now very empty promises) in their paychecks... :doh

We live in interesting times... :peace
 
And if you don't like company policies you are free to go find a job where you do, that is capitalism.

Just don't go to Oregon. The governor there just unilaterally enacted one of th biggest tax hikes in history under the guise that she had the power to do so because of the coronavirus. So now workers and corporations will be paying massive taxes to support careless, idle, comfortable greedy leftist democrats and the leftist democrat socialist agenda.

Gov. Brown keeps abusing emergencies to pass taxes, bad laws | The Oregon Catalyst

Two days after declaring a state of emergency over the coronavirus, Gov. Kate Brown then declared a climate emergency. Bypassing the elected Legislature, Governor Brown enacted a wide-sweeping Carbon Tax through an Executive Order (#20-24). This order directed 19 different government departments to implement portions of a failed Carbon Tax plan. Her order raises gas prices by forcing gas stations to serve a more expensive low-carbon blend which drives up gas prices for consumers. Her order raises housing costs with new regulations on fluorescent lights, computers, faucets, shower heads, washers, dryers, water heaters, steam cookers, ventilating fans, and more. Not a single vote was taken for these rules to go into effect.
 
Like when Trump said he’d like football players fired or deported for kneeling? Or removing broadcasting licenses from networks that criticize him? Or sending out federal officers to snatch citizens off of streets “rendition” style?

Lots more examples, but you get the picture.

Leftists have a problem with law officers arresting lawbreakers. That does not make sense.
 
Leftists have a problem with law officers arresting lawbreakers. That does not make sense.

Its fine so long as they don't kill or maim people during that arrest.
 
Just don't go to Oregon. The governor there just unilaterally enacted one of th biggest tax hikes in history under the guise that she had the power to do so because of the coronavirus. So now workers and corporations will be paying massive taxes to support careless, idle, comfortable greedy leftist democrats and the leftist democrat socialist agenda.

Gov. Brown keeps abusing emergencies to pass taxes, bad laws | The Oregon Catalyst

Two days after declaring a state of emergency over the coronavirus, Gov. Kate Brown then declared a climate emergency. Bypassing the elected Legislature, Governor Brown enacted a wide-sweeping Carbon Tax through an Executive Order (#20-24). This order directed 19 different government departments to implement portions of a failed Carbon Tax plan. Her order raises gas prices by forcing gas stations to serve a more expensive low-carbon blend which drives up gas prices for consumers. Her order raises housing costs with new regulations on fluorescent lights, computers, faucets, shower heads, washers, dryers, water heaters, steam cookers, ventilating fans, and more. Not a single vote was taken for these rules to go into effect.

That had ZERO to do with what I posted.

But since you want to whine about taxes, every state is going to raise theirs, Texas is now discussing the same, due to the Pandemic.
 
Leftists have a problem with law officers arresting lawbreakers. That does not make sense.
And Trump has a problem recognizing and abiding Americans civil/Constitutional rights.
 
Leftists have a problem with law officers arresting lawbreakers. That does not make sense.

I am willing to bet you were one of the people crying about the Search warrant execution At Roger Stones house.
 
That had ZERO to do with what I posted.

But since you want to whine about taxes, every state is going to raise theirs, Texas is now discussing the same, due to the Pandemic.

Of course. Democrats must maintain the status quo. Government paid educators getting 6 figure retirement incomes and 3 times that while working. Multiple government agencies with no real purpose staffed by more well paid employs with no real responsibilities and no danger of losing their jobs or their retirement benefits. On top of that are hundreds of thousands of well paid government workers at the state and local level with quite generous retirement packages.

Why pick on government workers? Because of the income equality that exists between unionized rich government workers and the poor working stiffs who must pay higher taxes in order to keep those rich retirees flush with cash. I'm not against government workers or retirees. I am against lawmakers giving away pay and retire benefits at the expense of taxpayers who would rather they keep their giveaways at sustainable levels where the rest of the American workers are.
 
I am willing to bet you were one of the people crying about the Search warrant execution At Roger Stones house.

The jack-booted democrat swat teams swooped in on Manafort and Stone in the middle of the night while allowing Comey and Podesta to walk away untouched. That is not justice, it is perversion of justice..
 
The jack-booted democrat swat teams swooped in on Manafort and Stone in the middle of the night while allowing Comey and Podesta to walk away untouched. That is not justice, it is perversion of justice..

Steve Bannon feels the same way. Your constant dishonesty is at the very least consistent.
 
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Bahahaha...all these MAGA-nauts boo hooing about discrimination.

If you had one ****ty thing to say about BLM in these last few months, now's the time to shut the **** up about this. Or don't...the stench of hypocrisy is ****ing hilarious. :lamo :thumbs:
 
Of course. Democrats must maintain the status quo. Government paid educators getting 6 figure retirement incomes and 3 times that while working. Multiple government agencies with no real purpose staffed by more well paid employs with no real responsibilities and no danger of losing their jobs or their retirement benefits. On top of that are hundreds of thousands of well paid government workers at the state and local level with quite generous retirement packages.

Why pick on government workers? Because of the income equality that exists between unionized rich government workers and the poor working stiffs who must pay higher taxes in order to keep those rich retirees flush with cash. I'm not against government workers or retirees. I am against lawmakers giving away pay and retire benefits at the expense of taxpayers who would rather they keep their giveaways at sustainable levels where the rest of the American workers are.

Dang , you do know you have changed reilgins don't you, you are now a Cult Member, and I am sure you will excuse it, don't bother with a reply, it isn't my problem.
 
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