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Goodbye Old GOP

LowDown said:
Yet another faux epiphany from some dyed in the wool liberal claiming to have been a Republican in the past.

You can tell by his highly distorted view of Republicans that the guy has never been a Republican.
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LOL.... you people are pathetic.....turn on any talk radio show and one in three caller is a democrat converting to republican ....and yet Obama trashed your ass in the last election.

That aside, you people are conned into thinking that rich people work 10 jobs to amass their riches. Let me ask ...why is washington filled with lobbyist everyday ....who do they usually represent?

I was convinced that most poor republicans are 100% idiot when they believed that poor people tanked the economy bush ran. They reasoned ...it's not the big bankers who routinely wine and dine the politicians ....nah....can't be those people ....it's that poor black woman who took down the American economy!!

This is why I'm so sure the US is on a fast track to be an advanced 3rd world country ....yes we'll have weapons and guns ...but our middle class will be destroyed before long. We captured lightening in a bottle during that last 100 years ...then we had politicians on both side of the isle willing to build rail, roadways, bridges ....etc. Just imagine how well ahead of the game we were building the New York subway back then.
Soon a Chinese person hearing all the hype about the US will come here and see a country thats a dump and wonder what the hype was about. He'll leave his country with sophisticated high speed rails, a country where everyone is wired and connected everywhere in the country ...come here to a country mired and stuck in the 19th century.

Thanks to the Tea PUUURRTY ....America can't even repair a 50 year old bridge today ...nah...don't want the evil GOVERNMENT doing anything. The only things liberals think when they think of the Republicans/NeoCONS/TEA-PURTY (and you're all the same) ....is how do you wake up every day with so much energy to act against your own interest!!
Because you see that liberal...he/she may at times get it wrong...but they always vote for their self interest. Not the people on the right...they constantly foam and froth at the mouth voting to somehow punish others ...even it means punishing themselves.

Look at you people fight and wailing away for the rich ....who wouldn't give you the time of the day ....and you're doing it for free!!!

Yeah ...you people don't begrudge the rich ....you have no problem with the Bankers walking away with $billions of our tax dollars...because you're commited to your relative sub-standard life and have no ambition to ever be rich!!

But you do begrudge the poor ...... you always want them to be poor to tell yourself you are not so bad.........you get red hot at the thought of somebody getting a few $100 to better their lives....least they raise their standard a living to yours!!
 
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thinkforyoursel said:
LOL.... you people are pathetic.....turn on any talk radio show and one in three caller is a democrat converting to republican ....and yet Obama trashed your ass in the last election.

That aside, you people ar conned into thinking that rich people work 10 jobs to amass their riches. Let me ask ...why is washington filled with lobbyist everyday ....who do they usually represent?

I was convinced that most poor republicans are 100% idiot when they believed that poor people tanked the economy bush ran. They reasoned ...it's not the big bankers who routinely wine and dine the politicians ....nah....can't be those people ....it's that poor black woman who took down the American economy!!

This is why I'm so sure the US is on a fast track to be an advanced 3rd world country ....yes we'll have weapons and guns ...but our middle class will be destroyed before long. We captured lightening in a bottle during that last 100 years ...then we had politicians on both side of the isle willing to build rail, roadways, bridges ....etc. Just imagine how well ahead of the game we were building the New York subway back then.
Soon a Chinese person hearing all the hype about the US will come here and see a country thats a dump and wonder what the hype was about. He'll leave his country with sophisticated high speed rails, a country where everyone is wired and connected everywhere in the country ...come here to a country mired and stuck in the 19th century.

Thanks to the Tea PUUURRTY ....America can't even repair a 50 year old bridge today ...nah...don't want the evil GOVERNMENT doing anything. The only things liberals think when they think of the Republicans/NeoCONS/TEA-PURTY (and you're all the same) ....is how do you wake up every day with so much energy to act against your own interest!!
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If we weren't spend so much on social programs that don't work and green energy firms that fail we'd have more than enough money to fix any bridge we needed to and have money to spare.
 
ChuckBerry said:
It is ironic that most on the right are both abortion opponents and supporters of the death penalty.
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The kid's innocent. The murderer isn't. No irony here. Move along.
 
YoungConserv said:
If we weren't spend so much on social programs that don't work and green energy firms that fail we'd have more than enough money to fix any bridge we needed to and have money to spare.
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The biggest welfare queens are the rich. Whats more easy than a con game where they take our money, sometimes at zero interest rate and lend it back to us at inflated rates!!!! Who do you think benefits from the farm subsidy programs .....take off the blinders bud.....get out of the itty-bitty ...PETTY world most conservatives live
 
Henrin said:
If insurance companies want to cover birth control they will without government forcing it on them. The best solution is still getting ourselves out from under insurance though and all third party arrangements to service.
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I agree with that. No middle man, denying services so they can make a profit.
 
year2late said:
I do not think the original post indicates that at all, unless we were commies and socialists during Eisenhower, Nixon, or early Reagan years.

Do you think Republicans of that era compare to the Republicans today?

By the way....it is always funny that the welfare commie socialist state stuff always get pointed at individual citizens and not the corporate welfare queens.:roll:
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Crony capitalism is not capitalism. Laundering money by taking it from taxpayers, then giving it to the states to keep union members employed until the next election, is also not capitalism.
 
Campbell said:
Yeah I'm a spoiled brat. I went to work in a uranium factory at Oak Ridge five days after my 18th b'day. I tracked that green powder out of the plants on the bottom of my shoes for nearly ten years till I transferred to the computing center. I worked rotating shift work for 17 years before I landed a day job. When my three kids were young I often drew pay from three different places and worked all the overtime I could get on my main job. I've been retired now for nearly 20 years but since I worked in or near all kinds of toxic/radioactive materials for 41 years I don't think I owe anybody a goddam dime. Big companies are raking the cream off the top in massive amounts these days and we get closer to that Republican utopia......a Lord/Serf society.
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So you haven't worked for 20 years and the whole time, you have had four pensions coming in. How much do you get a year total?
 
YoungConserv said:
If we weren't spend so much on social programs that don't work and green energy firms that fail we'd have more than enough money to fix any bridge we needed to and have money to spare.
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Are those really the two biggest things the US misspends on?
 
Ray410 said:
So you haven't worked for 20 years and you have four pensions coming in. How much do you get a year total?
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Campbell has not talked about his personal finances in this thread. That is none of your business and against the guidelines. Your will get reported if you continue to harass him.
 
notquiteright said:
No Sir, I see the spoiled brat label fitting many in the GOP who got theirs, usually as part of an inheritance, claiming how hard they worked for it... :roll:
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Many? Does that mean two or three? Do you have any data to reflect your belief that "many" in GOP inherited their wealth?

What role does corruption play? How did Pelosi become a multi-millionaire on a government salary? Harry Reid? John Kerry? The Kennedys?
 
Risky Thicket said:
I once was. I even voted for George W. the first time. I'm no longer a conservative regarding a number of issues. I don't support empire building, big government, raw capitalism, religious intrusion in government affairs, the militarization of American life or the inequality of women to name a few things. The GOP left me years ago.
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It is possible you are confusing establishment Republicans with conservatives. Conservatives must defeat the establishment Republicans and take control of the Republican party. We believe that governments at all levels must be constrained by written constitutions or charters. Establishment Republicans are little different than Democrats. Both place the state above the people.
 
66gardeners said:
Why should a health insurance plan cover Viagra and not birth control pills?
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In a state-controlled environment everyone should get everything at no charge to them. If we let the free market back in then maybe health insurance can actually be insurance and not taxpayer-funded health care.
 
thinkforyoursel said:
LOL.... you people are pathetic.....turn on any talk radio show and one in three caller is a democrat converting to republican ....and yet Obama trashed your ass in the last election.

That aside, you people are conned into thinking that rich people work 10 jobs to amass their riches. Let me ask ...why is washington filled with lobbyist everyday ....who do they usually represent?

I was convinced that most poor republicans are 100% idiot when they believed that poor people tanked the economy bush ran. They reasoned ...it's not the big bankers who routinely wine and dine the politicians ....nah....can't be those people ....it's that poor black woman who took down the American economy!!

This is why I'm so sure the US is on a fast track to be an advanced 3rd world country ....yes we'll have weapons and guns ...but our middle class will be destroyed before long. We captured lightening in a bottle during that last 100 years ...then we had politicians on both side of the isle willing to build rail, roadways, bridges ....etc. Just imagine how well ahead of the game we were building the New York subway back then.
Soon a Chinese person hearing all the hype about the US will come here and see a country thats a dump and wonder what the hype was about. He'll leave his country with sophisticated high speed rails, a country where everyone is wired and connected everywhere in the country ...come here to a country mired and stuck in the 19th century.

Thanks to the Tea PUUURRTY ....America can't even repair a 50 year old bridge today ...nah...don't want the evil GOVERNMENT doing anything. The only things liberals think when they think of the Republicans/NeoCONS/TEA-PURTY (and you're all the same) ....is how do you wake up every day with so much energy to act against your own interest!!
Because you see that liberal...he/she may at times get it wrong...but they always vote for their self interest. Not the people on the right...they constantly foam and froth at the mouth voting to somehow punish others ...even it means punishing themselves.

Look at you people fight and wailing away for the rich ....who wouldn't give you the time of the day ....and you're doing it for free!!!

Yeah ...you people don't begrudge the rich ....you have no problem with the Bankers walking away with $billions of our tax dollars...because you're commited to your relative sub-standard life and have no ambition to ever be rich!!

But you do begrudge the poor ...... you always want them to be poor to tell yourself you are not so bad.........you get red hot at the thought of somebody getting a few $100 to better their lives....least they raise their standard a living to yours!!
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The core feature of most liberals is a lack of maturity. With maturity comes more conservative thinking. It's hard to feature people going the other way, and the rhetoric of people who pretend to belies their false epiphany.
 
Misterveritis said:
Many? Does that mean two or three? Do you have any data to reflect your belief that "many" in GOP inherited their wealth? What role does corruption play? How did Pelosi become a multi-millionaire on a government salary? Harry Reid? John Kerry? The Kennedys?
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According to Merrill Lynch there are over 1 million millionaire households where their wealth is entirely inherited in this country. So that is many spoiled brats.

I have ZERO doubt corruption plays a major factor in the 'earning' of the 'hard working' socially well connected, BushII's oil and baseball 'career' points to that. Just to be clear, Pelosi and HER HUSBAND don't rely on just her gubmint check, he was a rather well off businessman before meeting her. Do you know what Reid's net worth is? Kerry married well, an heiress like McCain did.

Now rather than devolve into tit for tat, my discussion with the guy calling himself a real conservative is he used 'spoiled brat' and I refined the definition. I feel his definition is twisted and called him on it. YOU trying to make this a politicians make money in congress thing is off topic. That is no news flash nor exclusive to one party.
 
So much failure in this. You coddle the weak and inept instead of pushing them into independence and self sufficiency. My parents grew up on a dirt floor and I got a college education with no debt - how - working full time as a police officer is how. I gave that up for business and failed. No ones fault but mine, and I at least got enough off it to have some land and a home. I make less than $5k a year now. I still get by. No hand out. No request for one. No food stamps, welfare, medical or anything. I could complain you have more than me. I don't. It's non of my business what you have or anyone else what they have. Our liberal sociopaths are buying people like you off instead of empowering people to sustain and make it on their own. Stop crying start doing.

Campbell said:
Few have ever worked harder than I did and few for as long. One thing I know is that folks like you are ruining the America we had frpm the 40's till the 80's. You want it all at the top, only those few getting a quality education, 60 million starving, 120 million unable to meet the basic needs for a family, your own to never serve in the unnecessary wars started by the those at the top and the mentally or physically disabled to flounder and die along with senior citizens. I have some breaking news for you.....get used to losing elections because the American people have wised up. You just don't get it. When Democrats have exceeded your numbers for popular vote in five of the last six national elections your days are numbered.
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trfjr said:
where did it every mention the Republicans want to limit contraception? unless you conceder abortion as a form of contraception you are so drunk on the Obama Koolaid you have lost all creditability
in case you don't know the majority of America are against abortion other then in a few exceptions so it is you who have a fridge belief not republicans so keep drinking the koolaid
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Contraception is under attack in a way it really wasn't in the past few years," says Judy Waxman, the vice president for health and reproductive rights at the National Women's Law Center. "In 2004, we could not find any group—the National Right to Life Committee, the Bush campaign, anyone—that would go on the record to say they're opposed to birth control," adds Elizabeth Shipp, the political director for NARAL Pro-Choice America. "We couldn't find them in 2006 either, and in 2008 it was just fringe groups. In 2010, 2011, and this year, it's just exploded."
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The Republican War on Contraception | Mother Jones
 
notquiteright said:
According to Merrill Lynch there are over 1 million millionaire households where their wealth is entirely inherited in this country. So that is many spoiled brats.

I have ZERO doubt corruption plays a major factor in the 'earning' of the 'hard working' socially well connected, BushII's oil and baseball 'career' points to that. Just to be clear, Pelosi and HER HUSBAND don't rely on just her gubmint check, he was a rather well off businessman before meeting her. Do you know what Reid's net worth is? Kerry married well, an heiress like McCain did.

Now rather than devolve into tit for tat, my discussion with the guy calling himself a real conservative is he used 'spoiled brat' and I refined the definition. I feel his definition is twisted and called him on it. YOU trying to make this a politicians make money in congress thing is off topic. That is no news flash nor exclusive to one party.
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How many millionaires are there? If those who inherited wealth do nothing with it how long before those millionaires are no longer millionaires?

Pelosi is a corrupt politician. Reid too. Yes. Kerry married into some of his wealth. Becoming a politician should not be a path to wealth. Moving to a fair tax would eliminate a major source of corruption, the tax law.

You brought up the spoiled millionaires so this is fair game.
 
LowDown said:
The core feature of most liberals is a lack of maturity. With maturity comes more conservative thinking. It's hard to feature people going the other way, and the rhetoric of people who pretend to belies their false epiphany.
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Again ...the pot calling the kettle black......the one word that describes con-servatives is petty!
And if your pettiness wasn't such a danger to the stability of the country many would ignore you. But right now your juvenile insistence on damaging the country because most of us don't want to go back to the 18th century with you.... must be dealt with!!
 
notquiteright said:
According to Merrill Lynch there are over 1 million millionaire households where their wealth is entirely inherited in this country. So that is many spoiled brats.

I have ZERO doubt corruption plays a major factor in the 'earning' of the 'hard working' socially well connected, BushII's oil and baseball 'career' points to that. Just to be clear, Pelosi and HER HUSBAND don't rely on just her gubmint check, he was a rather well off businessman before meeting her. Do you know what Reid's net worth is? Kerry married well, an heiress like McCain did.

Now rather than devolve into tit for tat, my discussion with the guy calling himself a real conservative is he used 'spoiled brat' and I refined the definition. I feel his definition is twisted and called him on it. YOU trying to make this a politicians make money in congress thing is off topic. That is no news flash nor exclusive to one party.
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"There is a wide disparity in the estimates of the number of millionaires residing currently in the United States. A quarterly report prepared by the Economist Intelligence Unit on behalf of Barclays Wealth in 2007 estimated that there were 16,600,000 millionaires in the USA."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millionaire#Number_of_millionaires_by_country

Other sources say less.

"The study found that at the end of 2012, 8.99 million American households boasted a net worth of at least $1 million. This figure is up significantly from 2008 when the number of millionaire households dropped to 6.7 million. However, it fails to top the pre-recession peak of 9.2 million households in 2007.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/study-finds-9m-millionaires-u-s-article-1.1290334#ixzz2WOqIIREj"

There are many people providing things that make our lives much better. The people who provide those goods and services become wealthy.
 
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