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Global Temperatures Are Mostly Fake

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Global Temperatures Are Mostly Fake | Real Science

This date in 1934 may have been the hottest in US history. The map below shows actual temperatures, not the “heat index.” Almost two-thirds of the US was over 100F on July 21, 1934 – with temperatures of 115 in Missouri and South Dakota, and 113 in Minnesota.


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Cause, Gaia hates me.

There's a lot of truth to that. The eventual fate of all species on Earth is extinction and if it's not by natural causes it's not for lack of trying on Gaia's part.
 

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Yeah, 'cause the overwhelming majority of the world's scientists have all gotten together to make it look like the world's getting warmer! And nearly all climatologists got together and knowingly falsified the temperatures!

And best of all, the hundreds of climatologists and the hundreds of thousands of scientists worldwide that are ALL in on this conspiracy have been able to keep it secret from the rest of the world! Amaaaaaaaaazing!
 

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I am not sure if global temperatures are mostly fake, but they sure don't mean what people think they do.
The majority of the observed warming has been in winter (cooler months) evenings.
So the average is increasing because of the winter nights not getting as cold as they used to.
 

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Yeah, 'cause the overwhelming majority of the world's scientists have all gotten together to make it look like the world's getting warmer! And nearly all climatologists got together and knowingly falsified the temperatures!

And best of all, the hundreds of climatologists and the hundreds of thousands of scientists worldwide that are ALL in on this conspiracy have been able to keep it secret from the rest of the world! Amaaaaaaaaazing!

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Yeah, 'cause the overwhelming majority of the world's scientists have all gotten together to make it look like the world's getting warmer! And nearly all climatologists got together and knowingly falsified the temperatures!

And best of all, the hundreds of climatologists and the hundreds of thousands of scientists worldwide that are ALL in on this conspiracy have been able to keep it secret from the rest of the world! Amaaaaaaaaazing!

They could just want to be relevant or get money from government grants? :roll:
 

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They could just want to be relevant or get money from government grants? :roll:

Riiiiiiight. Your inference would require that doggone near every climatologist MUST have government grants in order to work, and would require that NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THE GREAT MAJORITY OF CLIMATOLOGISTS has the intestinal fortitude to expose the grand conspiracy...never mind that the moment even one of them spoke up, he'd be an instant celebrity on Fox and wouldn't have to work again a day in his life.

But I guess in your world, the scientists are all cowards - they're not Real Men like Trump, Limbaugh, Cheney, and Ted Nugent, all of whom used various bogus claims to get out of military service.
 

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Yeah, 'cause the overwhelming majority of the world's scientists have all gotten together to make it look like the world's getting warmer! And nearly all climatologists got together and knowingly falsified the temperatures!

And best of all, the hundreds of climatologists and the hundreds of thousands of scientists worldwide that are ALL in on this conspiracy have been able to keep it secret from the rest of the world! Amaaaaaaaaazing!

Riiiiiiight. Your inference would require that doggone near every climatologist MUST have government grants in order to work, and would require that NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THE GREAT MAJORITY OF CLIMATOLOGISTS has the intestinal fortitude to expose the grand conspiracy...never mind that the moment even one of them spoke up, he'd be an instant celebrity on Fox and wouldn't have to work again a day in his life.

But I guess in your world, the scientists are all cowards - they're not Real Men like Trump, Limbaugh, Cheney, and Ted Nugent, all of whom used various bogus claims to get out of military service.

There's no need to believe in a conspiracy to understand AGW believers. They are a sociological phenomenon.

Weak Minds Think Alike
 

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Riiiiiiight. Your inference would require that doggone near every climatologist MUST have government grants in order to work, and would require that NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THE GREAT MAJORITY OF CLIMATOLOGISTS has the intestinal fortitude to expose the grand conspiracy...never mind that the moment even one of them spoke up, he'd be an instant celebrity on Fox and wouldn't have to work again a day in his life.

But I guess in your world, the scientists are all cowards - they're not Real Men like Trump, Limbaugh, Cheney, and Ted Nugent, all of whom used various bogus claims to get out of military service.

Please get that wad undone from your panties.

How about them not wanting to turn their collective backs on their political agenda?
 

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It's not a CT... it's an political agenda. It's the way the left works.

Here's a bunch that were true.

33 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True, What Every Person Should Know... » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Wrong. Your claim REQUIRES that the overwhelming majority of the world's climatologists are deliberately falsifying their measurements and deliberately misleading the rest of us...and that they're so well-organized and dedicated that not a single one of them has had the moral courage, the intestinal fortitude to speak up and expose it...even though the moment one did so, he or she would be an instant celebrity and would never have to work again a day in his or her life.

That, sir, is by definition a conspiracy theory.
 

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Claim is that NOAA uses poor data for too much of global surface area, then attempts to make a counterclaim using only 2% of the world's surface area. On a single day, no less.
 

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It was only last month that climate scientists were saying that May was the hottest month, and before that it was April! Now it's June! I wish they would make up their minds!
 

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It was only last month that climate scientists were saying that May was the hottest month, and before that it was April! Now it's June! I wish they would make up their minds!

Indefatigable climate blogger Paul Homewood has a different take on this story of “the hottest June around the world in modern history”, pointing out that according to the satellite records, June 2016 was nowhere near the hottest. But the interesting divergence between GISS and RSS, from 1998 onwards, is not a topic that the BBC are likely to spend much airtime on, as it woefully fails to conform to the “dangerous levels of climate change” narrative.

Sun’s Out, Big Climate Alarm Guns Out

Posted on 21 Jul 16 by ALEX CULL 7 Comments
The jet-setting, climate-campaigning celeb and poet Emma Thompson recently dismissed Britain as a “tiny little cloud-bolted, rainy corner of sort-of Europe, a cake-filled misery-laden grey old island”. And presumably since the vote for Brexit, we’ve sunk even further in her estimation. However, not all of us are misery-laden these days, especially since the referendum. (NB, … Continue readi
 

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I am not sure if global temperatures are mostly fake, but they sure don't mean what people think they do.
The majority of the observed warming has been in winter (cooler months) evenings.
So the average is increasing because of the winter nights not getting as cold as they used to.

Obviously warmer evenings and nights is a distinctive indication that the main cause is greenhouse gases retaining daytime heat (not daytime effects like a hotter sun or fewer clouds blocking sunlight or whatever other half-baked theories some 'sceptics' cling to).

Similarly hotter winter months specifically - and in the Northern Hemisphere especially, as you've pointed out before - indicate the feedback mechanism of reduced albedo from faster and earlier snow melt, further amplifying the initial GHG warming.

These are important things to point out. Summers and days are getting hotter too of course, but at a slower rate.
 

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Wrong. Your claim REQUIRES that the overwhelming majority of the world's climatologists are deliberately falsifying their measurements and deliberately misleading the rest of us...and that they're so well-organized and dedicated that not a single one of them has had the moral courage, the intestinal fortitude to speak up and expose it...even though the moment one did so, he or she would be an instant celebrity and would never have to work again a day in his or her life.

That, sir, is by definition a conspiracy theory.

No. The claim is that there are a few such out right liars and that the general media of the world and it's governemets are going along with this convenient lie. That there are lots of parties who get a lot out of this lie.

There are plenty of scientists who disagree with this and lots lots more who have come to phrasing there results very carefully.

In case you have not noticed us skeptics often use sceintifc papers to support our arguments. Loads of links to such.
 

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Obviously warmer evenings and nights is a distinctive indication that the main cause is greenhouse gases retaining daytime heat (not daytime effects like a hotter sun or fewer clouds blocking sunlight or whatever other half-baked theories some 'sceptics' cling to).

Similarly hotter winter months specifically - and in the Northern Hemisphere especially, as you've pointed out before - indicate the feedback mechanism of reduced albedo from faster and earlier snow melt, further amplifying the initial GHG warming.

These are important things to point out. Summers and days are getting hotter too of course, but at a slower rate.

Isn't the warming of noghts and winters a good thing?
 

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No. The claim is that there are a few such out right liars and that the general media of the world and it's governments are going along with this convenient lie. That there are lots of parties who get a lot out of this lie.
There are plenty of scientists who disagree with this and lots lots more who have come to phrasing there results very carefully.
In case you have not noticed us skeptics often use sceintifc papers to support our arguments. Loads of links to such.

If an asteroid were hurtling toward earth with deadly impact results imminent there would be no disagreement with the science of the observation. Oddly, with the supposedly deadly climate issues, the faithful and skeptic groups fall along largely conservative / progressive lines. It just screams of political agenda.

If we deny catastrophic climate change, we are "deniers". This is a fascist buzzword meant to coerce folks into the progressive globalist agenda.
The climate has been changing since the beginning. It is not changing now at a rate that will doom human life. It is changing at a roughly normal rate. We will adapt, if we can keep ourselves from the global fascist progressive rule.
 

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There are plenty of scientists who disagree with this and lots lots more who have come to phrasing there results very carefully.
This is obvious if :

1) You read the actual papers, and not what the pundits say about the papers.
2) You actually understand what you read.
3) Have critical thinking skills and understand that words have meaning.
 

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Obviously warmer evenings and nights is a distinctive indication that the main cause is greenhouse gases retaining daytime heat (not daytime effects like a hotter sun or fewer clouds blocking sunlight or whatever other half-baked theories some 'sceptics' cling to).

Similarly hotter winter months specifically - and in the Northern Hemisphere especially, as you've pointed out before - indicate the feedback mechanism of reduced albedo from faster and earlier snow melt, further amplifying the initial GHG warming.

These are important things to point out. Summers and days are getting hotter too of course, but at a slower rate.
Actually James Hansen and other Scientist disagree, Hansen thought that T-Min and T-Max should rise the same but that T Max was dampened,
and that that dampening was temporary.
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1995/1995_Hansen_ha09800r.pdf
We can safely predict that on the long run the effect of the diurnal damping on maximum temperatures will be small,
Also the winter warming is not just the northern Hemisphere but both.
Read Arrhenius's opening statement from 1896, Tyndail, thought the effect would only cause diurnal and seasonal variations.
http://www.rsc.org/images/Arrhenius1896_tcm18-173546.pdf
What do we see today? seasonal and diurnal variations.
While this may not mean that added CO2 is not an issue, it reduces the severity of the issue, and throws all the models off.
If the evenings in the cooled months are not as cold as they used to be by 1 or 2 C, over 180 years, it could effect which variety
of orchard species are planted for the next rotation, and other chill hour plants.
 

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Actually James Hansen and other Scientist disagree, Hansen thought that T-Min and T-Max should rise the same but that T Max was dampened,
and that that dampening was temporary.
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1995/1995_Hansen_ha09800r.pdf
We can safely predict that on the long run the effect of the diurnal damping on maximum temperatures will be small,

And there's no reason to suppose that they're wrong. To put this in perspective, here's what the diurnal damping effect looks like in the contiguous United States:
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/dyk/nclimdiv-tmax-tmin
tmax-tmin-ts-t.jpg



Also the winter warming is not just the northern Hemisphere but both.
Read Arrhenius's opening statement from 1896, Tyndail, thought the effect would only cause diurnal and seasonal variations.
http://www.rsc.org/images/Arrhenius1896_tcm18-173546.pdf
What do we see today? seasonal and diurnal variations.
While this may not mean that added CO2 is not an issue, it reduces the severity of the issue, and throws all the models off.
If the evenings in the cooled months are not as cold as they used to be by 1 or 2 C, over 180 years, it could effect which variety
of orchard species are planted for the next rotation, and other chill hour plants.

Every season, hemisphere and time of day is getting warmer, yes, but it's more pronounced at high northern latitudes and especially in the northern winter. Comparing the thirty years 1881-1910 with the thirty years 1986-2015 (Google sheets):
Code:
		Warming (K)			Warming (K)
NH winter (DJF)	1		SH winter (JJA)	0.688
NH autumn	0.933		SH autumn	0.655
NH summer (JJA)	0.754		SH summer (DJF)	0.649
NH spring	0.817		SH spring	0.606

		Warming (K)
64N-90N		2.02			
44N-64N		1.161			
24N-44N		0.736			
EQU-24N		0.626			
24S-EQU		0.692			
44S-24S		0.667			
64S-44S		0.482			
90S-64S		0.473
 
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