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Given what is/has happened to American under Trumpism...

If you were young, would you migrate out of the USA to a more enlightened country?

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I don't disagree with any of that. My only point is that many European countries are facing similar far right populist movements that, if they gain any power, will strip all the same rights and more than we have seen walked back in the US.
No arguing that. Imo, America is still the best place in the world to live (and CA is the best place in America), but the margin between America and second place is way closer than it has ever been for me.
 
Unfortunately in my 20s I was quite poor or else I would have tried to emigrate to Canada.

I have kids here now though.
 
Given how the USA is being taken back to the dark ages by the rise of Trumpism, if you were a young adult ready to start a life, would you look to leave for a more enlightened country?
Do you want your kids and grand kids brought up like it was 1880?
Guns on subway cars, gays hunted and beaten, every bar fight ending in a shootout, housewives kept in their place...
We all know the Trumpian template.


What's more scarier than guns on subways, is people taking videos of a woman being raped on a subway.

Yeah.....taking videos instead of helping the lady. :rolleyes:


You love animals taking over your city.
 
What's more scarier than guns on subways, is people taking videos of a woman being raped on a subway.

Yeah.....taking videos instead of helping the lady. :rolleyes:


You love animals taking over your city.

What a stupid thing to say. Absolutely dumbass.
 
Given how the USA is being taken back to the dark ages by the rise of Trumpism, if you were a young adult ready to start a life, would you look to leave for a more enlightened country?
Do you want your kids and grand kids brought up like it was 1880?
Guns on subway cars, gays hunted and beaten, every bar fight ending in a shootout, housewives kept in their place...
We all know the Trumpian template.
It must not be that bad, because you're still here! And people from around the world are still coming here in Droves...
Well maybe just Caravans, when ever a Democrat is in the White house....
 
Imagine the terror of living in a nation where developing human life is not viewed as cancer or a punishment, and where every citizen’s right (regardless of race, sex, or sexual orientation) to defend themselves with a firearm is protected. How horrific.

This is the views of no party.
 
Dumbass is a train full of men watching a woman being raped and not intervening.

It's the liberal way I guess.

The politics of the people on that train is irrelevant and probably not exactly the same.
Turning a blind eye to injustice, crime, and violence is not specific to either party.

Some people just choose to pretend it is to fit a political narrative because their political stance is weak and pathetic so making up random things is the best they can do.
 
The politics of the people on that train is irrelevant and probably not exactly the same.
Turning a blind eye to injustice, crime, and violence is not specific to either party.

Some people just choose to pretend it is to fit a political narrative because their political stance is weak and pathetic so making up random things is the best they can do.

Politics is very relevant.

Progressive DA's are turning animals loose on the streets and liberals are fine with it.
 
What's more scarier than guns on subways, is people taking videos of a woman being raped on a subway.

Yeah.....taking videos instead of helping the lady. :rolleyes:


You love animals taking over your city.

Really?

You don't thing being shot in the chest is more deadly?

BTW, that horrible event was in Philly and has zero to do with increasing the likelihood of gun violence that will occur.
 
Really?

You don't thing being shot in the chest is more deadly?

BTW, that horrible event was in Philly and has zero to do with increasing the likelihood of gun violence that will occur.

You don't have clue as to whether of not violence will increase.
 
Given how the USA is being taken back to the dark ages by the rise of Trumpism, if you were a young adult ready to start a life, would you look to leave for a more enlightened country?
Do you want your kids and grand kids brought up like it was 1880?
Guns on subway cars, gays hunted and beaten, every bar fight ending in a shootout, housewives kept in their place...
We all know the Trumpian template.

Would you go to a country that was not western, colonial, white supremacist, and systemically oppressive? Which one?
 
Given how the USA is being taken back to the dark ages by the rise of Trumpism, if you were a young adult ready to start a life, would you look to leave for a more enlightened country?
Do you want your kids and grand kids brought up like it was 1880?
Guns on subway cars, gays hunted and beaten, every bar fight ending in a shootout, housewives kept in their place...
We all know the Trumpian template.
This has to be the most amazingly absurd take I've seen on here in a while.
 
The US is so great that even the people who complain about it constantly won’t leave.
The US is so racist against brown people that 2,000,000 per year try to sneak in and get themselves some white supremacy.
 
I don't disagree with any of that. My only point is that many European countries are facing similar far right populist movements that, if they gain any power, will strip all the same rights and more than we have seen walked back in the US.
The real danger is the one-party system we have which masquerades as a two party system, both of which are controlled by the military industrial complex and large influential corporations, all of which are fueling the neverending war machine. The Establishment in both parties are owned by the unelected bureaucrats in our intelligence community and the military industrial complex, as is the American media. Trump was a reaction to that. And, those of you who voted for Biden sold our country down the river, and it is you folks who put us in this awful economic position we are today. Shame on anyone who put the Brenners and Clappers of the world back in power.
 
The real danger is the one-party system we have which masquerades as a two party system, both of which are controlled by the military industrial complex and large influential corporations, all of which are fueling the neverending war machine. The Establishment in both parties are owned by the unelected bureaucrats in our intelligence community and the military industrial complex, as is the American media. Trump was a reaction to that.
I agree. That's why we need to move toward socialism.
 
Given how the USA is being taken back to the dark ages by the rise of Trumpism, if you were a young adult ready to start a life, would you look to leave for a more enlightened country?
Do you want your kids and grand kids brought up like it was 1880?
Guns on subway cars, gays hunted and beaten, every bar fight ending in a shootout, housewives kept in their place...
We all know the Trumpian template.
If I could take my three adult kids, I'd move to Canada in a heartbeat. Its just too late to save this country from the deplorables anymore. They are taking over the state and federal institutions on which change might depend, and usurping them for Trumpist white nationalism. This insidious toxin has seeped everywhere the Republican party asserts any control.
 
I'm not sure, so I didn't vote. However, my future plans take me out of the US, so that's already in the works.
:)
 
If I could take my three kids, I'd move to Canada in a heartbeat. Its just too late to save this country from the deplorables anymore. They are taking over the state and federal institutions on which change might depend, and usurping them for Trumpist white nationalism. This insidious toxin has seeped everywhere the Republican party asserts any control.

It really is like a disease, it really is.
 
If I could take my three adult kids, I'd move to Canada in a heartbeat. Its just too late to save this country from the deplorables anymore. They are taking over the state and federal institutions on which change might depend, and usurping them for Trumpist white nationalism. This insidious toxin has seeped everywhere the Republican party asserts any control.
You realize that the Democrats control Congress and the Presidency, right? LOL

Sometimes it's like you folks think Trump is still President.
 
It really is like a disease, it really is.
It reminds me of some sort of toxin poisoning the water supply from resevoir to faucet, surging through all the pipes and drainage system and nobody believes that there is anything wrong with whats coming out of the tap or going into the rivers.
 
Given how the USA is being taken back to the dark ages by the rise of Trumpism, if you were a young adult ready to start a life, would you look to leave for a more enlightened country?
Do you want your kids and grand kids brought up like it was 1880?
Guns on subway cars, gays hunted and beaten, every bar fight ending in a shootout, housewives kept in their place...
We all know the Trumpian template.
Please don't let age be your excuse! By enlightened you mean pro LBGTQ, pro abortion, pro open border, pro soft on crime, anti constitution.
I would stay here, raise my children right, and work toward reversing Trumpism (pretty much what I do now). Trumpism needs to be defeated, not ignored and fled from. This is our country and I'll be damned if these Maga terrorists can have it.
Democrats have lost their minds. The very idea that republicans/conservatives are part of "Trumpism" is insulting but more than that it's ignorance at its finest by democrats. The policies of the left are dangerous and are harming Americans, all Americans.
 
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