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Giuliani: Trump reimbursed Cohen for $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels

apdst said:
He didn't post the link I asked for. Maybe YOU should read the thread and you would know that. :lamo

Booya!!!
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Neither do you when you claim you have.
 
Phoenix said:
to what end? Mike Pence for President? Good luck with that.
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“Journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step.”
 
apdst said:
He didn't post the link I asked for. Maybe YOU should read the thread and you would know that. :lamo

Booya!!!
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On what post did you ask for a link? You never answered that question when you replied.

Who says, ‘boo ya?’
 
A noted Conservative attorney just posted this on Twitter.

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Giuliani has to be the Worst.Lawyer.Ever.
 
Saladin4 said:
Subject at hand:......Guiliani admitting trump is a total Liar......Your response:...Blame Obama
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To be fair, they're also talking about North Korea and the Nobel Peace Prize for some reason. We've really got their A team in this thread.
 
Re: Giuliani: Trump repaid Cohen $130K for payment to porn star

JasperL said:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...giuliani-for-calling-fbi-agents-stormtroopers
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T/Y for posting the link which shows context.

I don't think his comment was disgusting in retrospect....
Giuliani said:
“I was talking about the $130,000 payment—the settlement payment, which is a very regular thing for lawyers to do. The question there was, the only possible violation there would be: Was it a campaign finance violation?” Giuliani said. “Which usually results in a fine, by the way, not this big stormtroopers coming in and breaking down his apartment and breaking down his office.”
 
Phoenix said:
PEW PEW, PEW PEW the left keeps on firing and keeps on missing. It's comical really.
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They don’t need to shoot. TRump and his team are holding the guns and aiming for their own feet.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
Why was Giuliani allowed back on Fox News this morning? I haven't checked into that yet. Did he say any other things that will land the president in prison?
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I don't know if he had been back on Fox this morning but he has spoken with the Washington Post. One of the things that Giullani said that I don't think anyone has mentioned yet, unless I missed it, was his comment about why Trump fired Comey. Basically Giullani said Trump fired Comey because he refused to clear the President by publicly announcing that he was not a 'target' of the FBI investigation into his campaign even though he was still a 'subject' in it. Which of course flies in the face Trump's explanation and Sessions/Rosenstein memo that Comey was terminated because of his handling Clinton email investigation. So Mueller will be placing a check mark next to that question, I'm sure.
 
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tres borrachos said:
Why doesn't Trump just let the real Christian do this sort of thing so he doesn't offend people with higher than double digit IQs who see right through his bull****?
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"people with higher than double digit IQs who see right through his bull****"

Hilarious.
 
Up until yesterday, Trump took the position that he had no idea of Cohen's payment. Today, he reverses course, says he knew about it, and definitively declares it did not violate campaign finance law. He must think Americans (and, in particular, his supporters) are the dumbest people on Earth.

So Adorables, how stupid are you ?
 
I wonder if this sudden new shift in strategy from the Trump Law team may be because they have realized there is information in Cohen's seized files which have already proven the hush money from Trump. So they may be trying to minimize its impact before it comes out by admitting to it, and then trying to spin it their own way. Better to be proactive about it.

Or it could just be that Giuliani is getting a little senile and forgetful. Hard to say.
 
Re: Giuliani: Trump repaid Cohen $130K for payment to porn star

trixare4kids said:
T/Y for posting the link which shows context.

I don't think his comment was disgusting in retrospect....
Giuliani said:
“I was talking about the $130,000 payment—the settlement payment, which is a very regular thing for lawyers to do. The question there was, the only possible violation there would be: Was it a campaign finance violation?” Giuliani said. “Which usually results in a fine, by the way, not this big stormtroopers coming in and breaking down his apartment and breaking down his office.”
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Yeah it is, because it's a f'ing lie, and we have the attorney for POTUS lying through his teeth in a way that compares the FBI to Nazis. Here's now Cohen described the process:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-personal-attorney-tells-abc-news-fbi-raids/story?id=54377658

President Donald Trump's longtime personal attorney Michael Cohen told ABC News today that FBI agents did not storm in, but simply knocked on the door, as they raided his office, hotel room and home Monday.
There were no SWAT teams, no guns drawn. The operation was "respectful" and "courteous."
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MateoMtnClimber said:
I don't think I agree with that. Cohen getting the equity loan on his home was not money laundering. The president earned his money however he earned it, presumably legally. Once the monies were funnelled through the law firm and not disclosed to the FEC, though, they were illegally obtained. I would go for money laundering.
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Didn't your ears perk up when Guillani used the term "funneled"? Mine did and I'm sure that Avenatti's and the USAO-SDNY's ears perked up too. That's an odd term for a lawyer to use in such an instance. What did he mean by 'funneled'?
 
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Threegoofs said:
A noted Conservative attorney just posted this on Twitter.

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Giuliani has to be the Worst.Lawyer.Ever.
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I saw Kelly Conways husband had posted the.
 
ataraxia said:
I wonder if this sudden new shift in strategy from the Trump Law team may be because they have realized there is information in Cohen's seized files which have already proven the hush money from Trump. So they may be trying to minimize its impact before it comes out by admitting to it, and then trying to spin it their own way. Better to be proactive about it.

Or it could just be that Giuliani is getting a little senile and forgetful. Hard to say.
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I think you've got something there. With the Cohen files in the FBI's possession the eventual public exposure of this Trump payback to Cohen of the Stormy Daniels payment was inevitable and Guillani was attempting to get out in front of it. Although the attempt was quite a ham-handed and amateurish one
 
JasperL said:
OK, I'm not speaking of the arrangement in terms of a prosecutor, but the point is if Cohen made the disbursement of $130k on behalf of the campaign and the expenditure was properly considered a campaign contribution, it wasn't disclosed anywhere. And the repayment scheme which was also not disclosed for work Rudy told us didn't happen appears to be an illegal scheme to hide the campaign loan and the repayment of it. I don't know if that fits the statutory definition of "money laundering" but the point is they're using an illegal scheme to hide the purpose of the payment to Stormy and the repayment of the "loan" to Cohen.
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I think it is money laundering, but opinions will differ.

Perhaps that will be the argument, but what was so stunning is Rudy did not make that argument, at all last night. The answer if that's the case is simple - "Sean, any financial payment to Stormy Daniels that might or might not have been made was a private matter between POTUS and Daniels, period, and had nothing whatsoever to do with the campaign and we will have no more comment on this purely personal matter!" That might not fly legally if/when challenged, but it's a coherent legal position.
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But it's too late for that. That's what's so stupid about whomever told the president to pursue this crazy, elaborate scheme. If he had just paid $130,000 from his pocket to Daniels's pocket, nothing would have been illegal. He obviously wanted no direct link from Daniels to him. I can only imagine that he would care because it could have cost him the election if it somehow got leaked. He was on very shaky electoral ground at that time. If only he had known that his voters would never hold him accountable for anything. He might have also wanted to hide the affair from Mrs. Trump, but she hasn't left him yet, so . . . Instead, he did these acrobatics to move a very little bit of money by his standards and in the process, seems to have broken several laws himself and/or caused people around him to break several laws.

And the other problem is if they stick to the story Cohen negotiated this NDA with Stormy and didn't inform Trump, obviously the NDA is unenforceable because it imposes obligations on both Trump and Stormy - it's right there in the document. Plus how can Trump have repaid Cohen for an arrangement with Stormy about which he was completely ignorant?
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I believed that the president might not have known the details when he said he didn't pay for anything and that he never knew Cohen paid for anything. They blew that off the face of the planet last night. He carefully and slowly moved the exact amount of money that Cohen needed. He knew exactly what it was for (I'm guessing) and is hoping to be protected by attorney-client privilege. If the authorities knew this much, I can understand how they got the raid warrant from the judge. I wonder what they found.

Not to mention that Cohen is in deep trouble, and the idea he executed the NDA without informing Trump is laughable stuff, as is the idea at this point that Cohen will fall on his sword for Trump who through his buddy at the National Enquirer just threw him under the bus, as did Rudy last night.
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Re: Giuliani: Trump repaid Cohen $130K for payment to porn star

poweRob said:
I really don't care about the sex and I don't know or care about her intent of marriage. Hell they may have an open relationship and external relationships are OK between the two of them and so forth but publicizing it for national scrutiny... she didn't ask for any of that. She doesn't come across to me as a bad person. In fact she seems rather decent.
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If she is decent she's way to decent for him. But people make their choices. She should have known he came with all kinds of negatives, and like I said she made here choice by her own volition. I just don't feel sorry for her.
 
It's the lies.

Didn't these men learn anything from Clinton. They will find out.

If Trump had just owned up to the non-disclosure, blah blah -- there wouldn't be half as much fuss.

It seems now they know it is going to come out so they are trying to control the message. Unfortunately -- it just feeds what the skeptics, critics have been saying and the control will do little to sway the critics.
 
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