Giuliani poll highs could fall with recent revelations about longtime associate Kerik

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IMHO, his associate's ties to organized crime might worth be looking into, but that should not mean that Guiliani is also tied to organized crime, he just associated with possibly the wrong people. And that, in itself, does not mean that he would be a bad president. IMHO, he would not be a good president for other reasons, but this is not one of them. Just ask Richard Nixon, who was very close to mob figure Bebe Rebozo, even during his presidency.

As far as Guilianai's remarks about his wife, that is nothing. Didn't Hillary assist Bill in making decisions? IMHO, the Democrats have nothing to complain about, that is, unless they want to grant the Republicans their fondest wish by bringing up Bill Clinton themselves.

Now I wouldn't vote for Giuliani. He is an unabashed Liberal. But ABC and NBC are making mountains out of molehills.

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4th rawstory scandal today! :2wave:

 

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4th rawstory scandal today! :2wave:

If you have something to say about the actual topic here, please do. Otherwise, stop trolling.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Re: Giuliani poll highs could fall with recent revelations about longtime associate K

If you have something to say about the actual topic here, please do. Otherwise, stop trolling.

nothing trolling about it. There have been four rawstory scandals presented here today. That's true. I find that interesting.

Here, I will add this.

I agree with you, danarhea, that the media is making a big deal out of nothing.

 

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nothing trolling about it. There have been four rawstory scandals presented here today. That's true. I find that interesting.

That's great, but has nothing to do with how ol' Rudy's doing in the polls.

 

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If you have something to say about the actual topic here, please do. Otherwise, stop trolling.

Maybe you should read his other posts in "Breaking News." All he seems to do is bait people. It's obnoxious.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

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That's great, but has nothing to do with how ol' Rudy's doing in the polls.

still isn't trolling. I think you know who the trolls are. They have been reported often enough.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Re: Giuliani poll highs could fall with recent revelations about longtime associate K

Maybe you should read his other posts in "Breaking News." All he seems to do is bait people. It's obnoxious.

:lol: you mean like you just did.

 

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:lol: you mean like you just did.

LOL For some reason, I am drawn to you, Current Affairs. Maybe I'm secretly attracted to you.

 

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Maybe you should read his other posts in "Breaking News." All he seems to do is bait people. It's obnoxious.

He's being taken care of.

Nothing else to see there. :2wave:

 

[Voidwar]

Re: Giuliani poll highs could fall with recent revelations about longtime associate K

LOL For some reason, I am drawn to you, Current Affairs. Maybe I'm secretly attracted to you.

this is kinda hot :lol: :3oops: :lol:

 

[Billo_Really]

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Originally posted by voidwar:
this is kinda hot

Like you'd know!

 

[Billo_Really]

Re: Giuliani poll highs could fall with recent revelations about longtime associate K

Guiliani would be a bad President because he doesn't know anything and hasn't done anything. The only thing he knows is bad relationships and of being able to say, "I was that guy from 9/11!" Which isn't saying much because he couldn't even get the fireman's vote.

Republicans are doomed in 2008.

 

[danarhea]

Re: Giuliani poll highs could fall with recent revelations about longtime associate K

Guiliani would be a bad President because he doesn't know anything and hasn't done anything. The only thing he knows is bad relationships and of being able to say, "I was that guy from 9/11!" Which isn't saying much because he couldn't even get the fireman's vote.

Republicans are doomed in 2008.

They seem to be, but you aren't giving enough credit to the Democrats. They are famous for pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory. :lol:

 

[Billo_Really]

Re: Giuliani poll highs could fall with recent revelations about longtime associate K

Originally posted be danarhea
They seem to be, but you aren't giving enough credit to the Democrats. They are famous for pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory.

This is true. It's not because American's like the the dems, it's because American's hate the reps more!

 

[RightOfCenter]

Re: Giuliani poll highs could fall with recent revelations about longtime associate K

Guiliani would be a bad President because he doesn't know anything and hasn't done anything. The only thing he knows is bad relationships and of being able to say, "I was that guy from 9/11!" Which isn't saying much because he couldn't even get the fireman's vote.

Republicans are doomed in 2008.

Like Obama, only he says, "Hey, I'm the black guy who was just elected!"

 

[Billo_Really]

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Originally posted by RightOfCenter
Like Obama, only he says, "Hey, I'm the black guy who was just elected!"

I don't think Obama plays the race card.

But you're right, he doesn't have much experience either.

 

[Captain America]

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I know absolutely nothing about NYC first hand. But it seems to me that there is a very thin line between NYC politics and organized crime to begin with. I often thought the two would weave and intermingle in the day to day workings of that city. Much like Chicago, that's just the way business is done. I would imagine it world be quite difficult to sucessfully serve in New York City as an influential political leader and remain three degrees removed from organized crime. People in charge of sewers are bound to get a little poo-poo on them now and again.

I think Giuliani is fine for New York City. But not for the USA.

 

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I think Giuliani is fine for New York City. But not for the USA.

A man's got to know his limitations. - Harry Callahan (Magnum Force)...:lol:

 

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IMHO, his associate's ties to organized crime might worth be looking into,

Alleged ties.

 

[danarhea]

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Alleged ties.

Where you been living, in a cave? Or do you just bury your head in the sand, hoping it will go away?

[FONT=Arial, Arial, Helvetica]Giuliani's recommended pick for Homeland Security chief is likely to be charged with several felonies, including tax evasion and conspiracy to commit wiretapping.

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But a week after his nomination, Kerik was forced to withdraw his name from consideration. The stated reason was his failure to pay Social Security taxes for a nanny. But other issues had also surfaced, including favors he did for romantic partners -- he once dispatched a homicide detective to find his girlfriend's lost cellphone -- and more serious legal concerns.


Within months, Kerik faced New York state charges -- to which he later pleaded guilty -- that he accepted nearly $200,000 in gifts while a public official -- including more than $165,000 spent on renovations to his apartment. The money came from companies affiliated with a New Jersey outfit that federal authorities and state gambling regulators had linked to organized crime.

 

[Captain America]

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You guys remember me talking up Tommy Thompson? Well, guess who is about to throw his hat in the ring?

Go Tommy!

It looks like maybe the GOP has finally got ahold of their senses.

 

[danarhea]

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You guys remember me talking up Tommy Thompson? Well, guess who is about to throw his hat in the ring?

Go Tommy!

It looks like maybe the GOP has finally got ahold of their senses.

I would like to see Ron Paul or New Gingrich get the nomination, but I can live with Thompson. However, I have a feeling that the GOP will put political expediency ahead of ideology, and nominate yet another RINO.

 

[Captain America]

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I would like to see Ron Paul or New Gingrich get the nomination, but I can live with Thompson. However, I have a feeling that the GOP will put political expediency ahead of ideology, and nominate yet another RINO.

I'm thinking that '08 may be a bit to early for Thompson to run. The GOP will be split between the Coulter/Limbaugh/O'Reilly Republicans and the more level headed Republicans. So, it won't matter who they run, the Democrats are gonna take it, I believe. The GOP has fractured by all appearances.

If the GOP runs another hard rightwingnut, (RINO) too many of their traditional supporters will jump ship and give the Democrats a landslide victory.

If Hillery wins in '08, I think I will take my leave from society altogether and become a recluse never to set foot outside my gate again.

 

[Captain America]

Re: Giuliani poll highs could fall with recent revelations about longtime associate K

I would like to see Ron Paul or New Gingrich get the nomination, but I can live with Thompson. However, I have a feeling that the GOP will put political expediency ahead of ideology, and nominate yet another RINO.

I don't know about Newt man. He was a partly behind all of that "rightwing conspiracy" :mrgreen: partisan witch hunt. He assisted in practically shutting the government down with his partisanship. When I think of the bad side of the GOP, his name is way up there on the list. Screw Newt. He is one of the seeds that put the GOP into the pi$$ poor shape they are in today IMHO. :mrgreen: