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Ginsburg is NOT an Icon. She Will Have MUCH to Answer For

Unfortunately, the right cannot speak the truth without getting hammered as being racist or anti-female. The truth is RBG was a socialist activist who never sided with the right. She did not follow the law but tried to create law with her liberal outlook. Damn glad we have the chance to replace her with a common sense, law-abiding conservative jurist.

SCOTUS doesn't "follow the law". SCOTUS interprets laws and applies them against the Constitution.

Did you study at Trump University?
 
Look at all the fake Christian Trump Panty sniffers lying through their teeth about RBG.

Trump sure brought out the dregs of society.
Fortunately, all u have to worry about is your own sinfulness

Aren't u glad Jesus doesn't hold us accountable for the sins of others? :)
 
Fortunately, all u have to worry about is your own sinfulness

Aren't u glad Jesus doesn't hold us accountable for the sins of others? :)
And hes great with the hedges
 
So being against murder is something only the "pious" favor?

God, please, let everyone be pious

Yes, God, I know...there will always be ppl who just hate good and love evil
The pious, like working for a "religious institution" with clear rules on behavior and being in charge of enforcing that behavior. Meanwhile breaking most of those rules in his personal life. The murder is only in your mind. There was a reason the founders of this country left out organized religion when governing.
 
The country was designed by the Founders to be Progressive, like it or not Righties. They would all laugh their assess off at the notion of staying stuck in the 1776 or 1787 mud. They would be rolling on the floor unable to stand they would be laughing at Rightie clowns so hard.

RBG did not create. She interpreted within the context she found herself in which is exactly the job assigned her by the Founders.

Her role was to follow the law NOT interpret or change or create.
 
I don't judge people's souls, but I would suggest unless she has repented in private, she will have or has had much to answer for.

You're the Christian version of the Pharisees. Jesus referred to them as a brood of vipers. You should mind your own soul while you still have time.

If you cared so much about unborn babies you would care about born babies and helping poor mothers feed their children. But you don't care about babies. It's just another way for you to torment the poor. Force them to have the babies and then punish them for having them.

Have you prepared yourself to explain to Jesus why you were so against free healthcare for the poor?

Why do you want to coerce people through the power of government rather than pursuade them? All you're doing is creating another black market to fill the demand. I guess you need more prisons and more law enforcers to coerce people.

It really doesn't sound conservative at all.
 
The left treats this woman ...

....the same exact way millions of conservative women do.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg's accomplishments changed life for women all over the world, starting with the United States, of course, but news of her landmark achievements influenced women's rights everywhere.
 
You're the Christian version of the Pharisees. Jesus referred to them as a brood of vipers. You should mind your own soul while you still have time.

If you cared so much about unborn babies you would care about born babies and helping poor mothers feed their children. But you don't care about babies. It's just another way for you to torment the poor. Force them to have the babies and then punish them for having them.

Have you prepared yourself to explain to Jesus why you were so against free healthcare for the poor?

Why do you want to coerce people through the power of government rather than pursuade them? All you're doing is creating another black market to fill the demand. I guess you need more prisons and more law enforcers to coerce people.

It really doesn't sound conservative at all.
liberals are always distorting reality and distorting what conservatives believe in and what they do. They have to d istort all the time.. otherwise, they would never win elections. If people knew the truth of the leftists, they would NOT vote for them. But fake news drones on all day every day telling us lie after lie after miserable LIE, and some dimwits believe it all....

How does a poor woman being forced by society to kill her children do her economic good (and plenty of liberals butt in with their worthless rhetoric.. boyfriends so called push for abortion, etc. so they woman feels forced...)?

As to being made poor or however u said it...

In fact, you could say she is monetarily "rewarded" by having the child bc then she gets a welfare check.

I am not like a lot of conservatives who begrudge single mothers said check. I myself feel sorry for single mothers.. toughest job you can imagine. They earn EVERY penny and then some. And yet we cannot have millions and millions of these checks going out because for one thing, we have a HUGE debt. Life is more important than such fiscal concerns but...

In any case, most important of all, with all these fatherless children... America suffers from the moral decay of having so many illegitimate children who grow up this w ay, without fathers, without a nuclear family. And of course, there is the vulture called Government that takes children away from poor mothers if something isn't perfect in the wya she raises them...

In any case, as we can all see from the high crime rate

the high abortion rate
the high fornication rate

etc....

MORALS

are what America needs most of all.

I'm voting for the pro-life president

Trump 2020




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liberals are always distorting reality and distorting what conservatives believe in and what they do. They have to d istort all the time.. otherwise, they would never win elections. If people knew the truth of the leftists, they would NOT vote for them. But fake news drones on all day every day telling us lie after lie after miserable LIE, and some dimwits believe it all....

How does a poor woman being forced by society to kill her children do her economic good? In fact, you could say she is monetarily "rewarded" by having the child bc then she gets a welfare check. I am not like a lot of conservatives who begrudge single mothers said check. I myself feel sorry for single mothers.. toughest job you can imagine. They earn EVERY penny and then some. And yet we cannot have millions and millions of these checks going out because for one thing, we have a HUGE debt. But most important of all, America suffers from the moral decay of having so many illegitimate children who grow up without fathers, without a real family. And of course, there is the vulture called Government that takes children away from poor mothers if something isn't perfect in the wya they raise their children...

In any case, as we can all see from the high crime rate

the high abortion rate
the high fornication rate

etc....

MORALS

are what America needs most of all.

I'm voting for the pro-life president

Trump 2020




l
But you sure cashed your pandemic check
 
....the same exact way millions of conservative women do.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg's accomplishments changed life for women all over the world, starting with the United States, of course, but news of her landmark achievements influenced women's rights everywhere.
of course rbg changed things for women... for the worst

just like all liberals do
 
But you sure cashed your pandemic check
right. I should have just sent it back even though i needed it, even though my life was totally DISRUPTED bc of that virus...

NO

wait... NOT because of the virus... because of the STUPID response elite Dems had to it...
 
right. I should have just sent it back even though i needed it, even though my life was totally DISRUPTED bc of that virus...

NO

wait... NOT because of the virus... because of the STUPID response elite Dems had to it...
Right that womans life is not disrupted but you dont want her getting a check
 
Right that womans life is not disrupted but you dont want her getting a check
i dont respond to people who distort my words, put words in my mouth... set up straw men...

dishonesty doesn't do much for me
 
I am not like a lot of conservatives who begrudge single mothers said check.

But most conservatives want to take way said check while moralizing about abortion. Where is the effort by conservatives to help poor women be able to afford to keep these children?

Where is the effort by conservatives to help the poor get medical care? Surely Jesus would want us to heal the sick.

Conservatives are frauds. Trump would demand his porn star to get an abortion. He would fly her to Mexico while promoting a pro-life policy.

This how government moralizing always works. It becomes hypocrisy and oppression. And it won't stop abortions. Demand will be created for black market options. You can't really force a woman who does not want to have a baby to have one. The best you can do is convince her to keep the baby.

I'm a Christian. I believe in convincing people and reaching out to people not using government to coerce them in a pointless effort.
 
I asked you to support what you said and you ran out the back door as quick as you could.
His point is valid. You made the first claim, therefore first proof is yours. You claimed that the liberal left was for baby killing. Back it up. I've not made any other claim, so you can't play the same game with me.
 
Her role was to follow the law NOT interpret or change or create.
The entire point of the judicial branch is to interpret the law to determine whether or not a violation has occurred, either of the law, or by it.
 
The left treats this woman as a revered icon. She's far from it. It's simply Marxist propaganda. The woman was a butcher, plain and simple 30 million babies killed under her watch. She supported partial birth abortion and the the suppression of religious freedom in the Hobby Lobby case. She voted to make gay marriage the law of the land. There was no justice more extreme left in the last 27 years.

I don't judge people's souls, but I would suggest unless she has repented in private, she will have or has had much to answer for.

Trump should nominate and the Senate should confirm a great conservative pro-life justice as soon as possible. I haven't done the political caculus of whether confirmation should be before or after election day. There are arguments both ways. But obviously Trump's pick, possibly Amy Coney Barrett, should be quickly approved. The hearings on Barrett should be interesting. I think we'll see how Democrats REALLY feel about women as they skewer her on everything from having so many children to her Catholic faith. We'll see how Democrats react when confronted with a TRULY devout Catholic, as opposed to the imposters in their party.
What is often not said in these cases, is the added phrase, "to liberals". She was a successful woman but 1/2 of the country disagreed with most of her positions.
 
What is often not said in these cases, is the added phrase, "to liberals". She was a successful woman but 1/2 of the country disagreed with most of her positions.
No matter. She was a pioneer of her time. To deny nb that is to deny reality
 
You do realize that if abortion in this country is made illegal, the uprising by women and more than a few men will turn from the republican party to something else. Be care what you wish for.
You overesimate the love for baby-killing.
 
Christians are loving people to all those that fit nicely into their little box.

If one doesn't fit into that little box, they wish them to rot in hell.
Not me. I hope repented before her death. I would have been pleased had her final message been she regrets her abortion stance all those years.
 
The entire point of the judicial branch is to interpret the law to determine whether or not a violation has occurred, either of the law, or by it.
I dont think these people understand our system.of government
 
Yes, giving people more equality and equal opportunity is something the right wing absolutely abhors.

Her nomination confirmation vote was 97-3. I guess not all the right wing abhors equality. But that was 25 or so yrs ago.
The 30 million babies haven't had much equality or equal opportunity. And yes, the GOP tended to let the Democrats have their nominee. Democrats have not been so accommodating, starting in recent years with Bork who would have been a great justice.
 
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