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Gingrich: President Exhibits ‘Kenyan, Anticolonial Behavior’

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Mr. Gingrich, who is mulling a bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012, made the comments to National Review Online. He was quoted by the conservative Web site as saying: “What if [Obama] is so outside our comprehension, that only if you understand Kenyan, anticolonial behavior, can you begin to piece together [his actions]? That is the most accurate, predictive model for his behavior.”
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Kenyan anti colonial behavior? Does anyone on this forum have a clue what that means?:confused:
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama exhibits " Kenyan, anticolonial behavior"

Not surprisingly, the remark makes little sense if you read it out of context. Gingrich's comments were made in response to another article that discussed Obama's father's Kenyan and anticolonialist views and how those views affected Obama's mindset as he grew up.

You can disagree with the underlying argument, the way the original author phrased it, or with Gingrich's supposed motives, but his comments aren't the random ramblings that the media is portraying them as.
 
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Gingrich: Obama's World View Shaped by Kenya

This is disturbing but falls in line with Obama's support of Rev. Wright and his belonging to that Church, which is heavily into black liberation theology for 20 years, even though it is anti-Constitution, anti-American, anti-capitalism and anti-white people.

http://http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/kenya-gingrich-obama-anticolonial/2010/09/12/id/369988?s=al&promo_code=AB8F-1

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says President Barack Obama harbors a deep-seated animosity toward the West as a result of his forefather’s rebellion against British rule in their native Kenya. Obama, who had a bust of Winston Churchill removed from the Oval Office when he first settled in, operates with a “Kenyan, anti-colonial” worldview, Gingrich told the National Review in remarks the Politerati blog reported Sunday. As a source for this insight, Gingrich cited a new article by conservative writer Dinesh D’Souza in an upcoming edition of Forbes magazine.

Gingrich, who is mulling a bid to run for president in 2012, suggested that the president’s world view might be “outside the comprehension” of most Americans.

“What if [Obama] is so outside our comprehension, that only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior, can you begin to piece together [his actions]?” Gingrich asked, according to the National Review. “That is the most accurate, predictive model for his behavior.”
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Re: Gingrich: Obama exhibits " Kenyan, anticolonial behavior"

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Kenyan anti colonial behavior? Does anyone on this forum have a clue what that means?:confused:
of course, it's code for "he's not like US". same old same old, just phrased a bit differently. scores of people trust and believe the douches who spout this crap. every effort is being made to undermine obama as "not one of us".......and it's sickening. argue policies, fine. but really, "kenyan" means what you think it means.
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama exhibits " Kenyan, anticolonial behavior"

Not surprisingly, the remark makes little sense if you read it out of context. Gingrich's comments were made in response to another article that discussed Obama's father's Kenyan and anticolonialist views and how those views affected Obama's mindset as he grew up.

You can disagree with the underlying argument, the way the original author phrased it, or with Gingrich's supposed motives, but his comments aren't the random ramblings that the media is portraying them as.
this doesn't sound rambling to me:

“I think he worked very hard at being a person who is normal, reasonable, moderate, bipartisan, transparent, accommodating — none of which was true,” Mr. Gingrich was quoted as saying.
seems the op comments were quite in contxet, and gingrich conveyed exactly what he wanted to convey. i am so tired of this coded bull****.
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama's World View Shaped by Kenya

This is disturbing but falls in line with Obama's support of Rev. Wright and his belonging to that Church, which is heavily into black liberation theology for 20 years, even though it is anti-Constitution, anti-American, anti-capitalism and anti-white people.

http://http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/kenya-gingrich-obama-anticolonial/2010/09/12/id/369988?s=al&promo_code=AB8F-1

ewww.....the boogie man is out there, and he's black! oops, i mean kenyan!
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama's World View Shaped by Kenya

ewww.....the boogie man is out there, and he's black! oops, i mean kenyan!
That's not funny. Ever thought about how difficult it is to outrun a Kenyan?

Maybe that's how we can finally put Obama's citizenship question to rest -- let's see how he does in a 10 K or a half marathon.
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama exhibits " Kenyan, anticolonial behavior"

Not surprisingly, the remark makes little sense if you read it out of context. Gingrich's comments were made in response to another article that discussed Obama's father's Kenyan and anticolonialist views and how those views affected Obama's mindset as he grew up.

You can disagree with the underlying argument, the way the original author phrased it, or with Gingrich's supposed motives, but his comments aren't the random ramblings that the media is portraying them as.
There's more at the Blaze

D‘Souza explores many facets that may affect Obama’s view of the world. But his focus on the convictions of Obama’s father are the centerpiece. Obama’s father once wrote a passionate piece called “Problems Facing our Socialism
The senior Obama proposed that the state confiscate private land and raise taxes with no upper limit. In fact, he insisted that “theoretically there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the
Gingrich ‘Slammed’ for Saying Obama May Hold ‘Kenyan’ Worldview | The Blaze
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama's World View Shaped by Kenya

That's not funny. Ever thought about how difficult it is to outrun a Kenyan?

Maybe that's how we can finally put Obama's citizenship question to rest -- let's see how he does in a 10 K or a half marathon.
I beat a Kenyan in a race. He gave me a 5 second head start and I tripped him as he pasted me.
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama exhibits " Kenyan, anticolonial behavior"

this doesn't sound rambling to me:



seems the op comments were quite in contxet, and gingrich conveyed exactly what he wanted to convey. i am so tired of this coded bull****.
You're missing my point. If you just read the OP, you come away with the impression that Gingrich simply said that Obama "exhibits 'Kenyan, anticolonial behavior,'" which sounds nonsensical and ridiculous. Even if you read the NYT article, you still come away with the impression that Gingrich was the one who first mentioned Kenya or the word "anticolonial," which makes it sound like he was the one coming up with those phrases in order to stir the pot.

Reality is quite different. As I pointed out, Gingrich was commenting on another article that discusses Obama's father's "Kenyan, anticolonial behavior" and argues that this had an impact on Obama's worldview. Gingrich said that he thought that article made some good points.

If you want to argue that Gingrich is wrong, or that the original author is wrong, or that Gingrich was highlighting that phrase because of the subtext it would convey, that's okay. It's not okay to ignore the context of the quote, thus falsely conveying the impression that Gingrich was the one who raised the issue and started using that language in a vacuum.
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama's World View Shaped by Kenya

That's not funny. Ever thought about how difficult it is to outrun a Kenyan?

Maybe that's how we can finally put Obama's citizenship question to rest -- let's see how he does in a 10 K or a half marathon.
ha! he smokes.
 

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Re: Gingrich: President Exhibits ‘Kenyan, Anticolonial Behavior’

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Re: Gingrich: Obama's World View Shaped by Kenya

ewww.....the boogie man is out there, and he's black! oops, i mean kenyan!

Oh, I see, so anyone who has a problem with a Marxist theory posing as a religion, and questioning that just must be a racist eh?

Or better yet, anyone who is against Obama and his destructive policies is racist, is that it?


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Re: Gingrich: Obama's World View Shaped by Kenya

ewww.....the boogie man is out there, and he's black! oops, i mean kenyan!
Nice try, but your attempt to make this about race as a regular tactic from the LEFT to obfuscate from the facts will not work. All the racism is to be found here is in Black Liberation Theology, and not in my opposition to Obama's ideologies.

I oppose any attempt to turn our Nation into another failed Socialist/Marxist third world pile of garbage to be taken over by idiots too stupid to know better.
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama exhibits " Kenyan, anticolonial behavior"

Not surprisingly, the remark makes little sense if you read it out of context. Gingrich's comments were made in response to another article that discussed Obama's father's Kenyan and anticolonialist views and how those views affected Obama's mindset as he grew up.

You can disagree with the underlying argument, the way the original author phrased it, or with Gingrich's supposed motives, but his comments aren't the random ramblings that the media is portraying them as.
There's more at the Blaze

D‘Souza explores many facets that may affect Obama’s view of the world. But his focus on the convictions of Obama’s father are the centerpiece. Obama’s father once wrote a passionate piece called “Problems Facing our Socialism. The senior Obama proposed that the state confiscate private land and raise taxes with no upper limit. In fact, he insisted that “theoretically there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the
Gingrich ‘Slammed’ for Saying Obama May Hold ‘Kenyan’ Worldview | The Blaze
So, why doesn't Newt just say Obama Jr seems to hold a similar economic world view as his father once held instead of making this verbal slight-of-hand comment connecting the President to Kenya?

Anyone who heard Newt's comment and have been paying close attention to U.S. politics knows exactly why he said it - to keep this non-U.S. citizen/dual-citizen, socialist/muslim BS alive within the Conservative consciousness.

Newt Gingrich should get a clue: If you don't have anything of substance to add, you're probably better off keeping your mouth shut.
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama's World View Shaped by Kenya

ewww.....the boogie man is out there, and he's black! oops, i mean kenyan!
Who mentioned race? Are all socialists black?
I can have my socialist boogie men and you can have your Conservative boogie men..... Rush, Beck, Palin.......:)
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama exhibits " Kenyan, anticolonial behavior"

So, why doesn't Newt just say Obama Jr seems to hold a similar economic world view as his father once held instead of making this verbal slight-of-hand comment connecting the President to Kenya?
He made the kenyan comments in conjunction with a bunch of other criticisms as well. The media simply latched onto that one comment because it makes a good headline.

Anyone who heard Newt's comment and have been paying close attention to U.S. politics knows exactly why he said it - to keep this non-U.S. citizen/dual-citizen, socialist/muslim BS alive within the Conservative consciousness.
It's quite possible that that's the case.
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama exhibits " Kenyan, anticolonial behavior"

You're missing my point. If you just read the OP, you come away with the impression that Gingrich simply said that Obama "exhibits 'Kenyan, anticolonial behavior,'" which sounds nonsensical and ridiculous. Even if you read the NYT article, you still come away with the impression that Gingrich was the one who first mentioned Kenya or the word "anticolonial," which makes it sound like he was the one coming up with those phrases in order to stir the pot.

Reality is quite different. As I pointed out, Gingrich was commenting on another article that discusses Obama's father's "Kenyan, anticolonial behavior" and argues that this had an impact on Obama's worldview. Gingrich said that he thought that article made some good points.

If you want to argue that Gingrich is wrong, or that the original author is wrong, or that Gingrich was highlighting that phrase because of the subtext it would convey, that's okay. It's not okay to ignore the context of the quote, thus falsely conveying the impression that Gingrich was the one who raised the issue and started using that language in a vacuum.

except, gingrich said obama exhibited that specific behavior, not his father. i believe he is wrong, and i believe he seized an opportunity to further ostracize obama. was he referencing another piece? i guess so, but he added his own twist.
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama's World View Shaped by Kenya

Oh, I see, so anyone who has a problem with a Marxist theory posing as a religion, and questioning that just must be a racist eh?

Or better yet, anyone who is against Obama and his destructive policies is racist, is that it?


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i will say this: i don't believe many of the politicans are really racist, nor do i think the majority of educat6ed people are racist. but i DO think the republican politicians play on the racist attitudes of some uneducated and under employed. why can't anyone admit this? wtf does "kenyan" behavior MEAN, anyway?
 
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Re: Gingrich: President Exhibits ‘Kenyan, Anticolonial Behavior’

Curious...

How many people here have actually read Obama, Sr's 1965 paper, "Problems Facing our (African/Kenyan) Socialism"?

Unless you've read it, I don't think you can comment on how the problems Obama, Sr saw things in his country in 1965 can be viewed in the same context of U.S. economic, social, commercial, industrial or budgetary problems in 2010 as Obama, Jr. may see them. True enough, there ARE some similarities, but there are also some vast differences.

The paper is a very interesting read, however.
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama exhibits " Kenyan, anticolonial behavior"

There's more at the Blaze

D‘Souza explores many facets that may affect Obama’s view of the world. But his focus on the convictions of Obama’s father are the centerpiece. Obama’s father once wrote a passionate piece called “Problems Facing our Socialism
The senior Obama proposed that the state confiscate private land and raise taxes with no upper limit. In fact, he insisted that “theoretically there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the
Gingrich ‘Slammed’ for Saying Obama May Hold ‘Kenyan’ Worldview | The Blaze
but what's YOUR take?
 

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Re: Gingrich: Obama's World View Shaped by Kenya

Who mentioned race? Are all socialists black?
I can have my socialist boogie men and you can have your Conservative boogie men..... Rush, Beck, Palin.......:)
oh, i get it, "kenyan" means socialist. how silly of me. :roll:
 

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The paper Obama, Sr., wrote in 1965 spoke of the many social-economic problems the African/Kenyan government was having at the time that Kenya had broke away from British colonialism. At the time, Africa was still trying to find her way in the greater world economic climate. What Sr wrote about was the contrast in terms the African gov't attempted to define "African Socialism". Mostly, the paper did deal with the issues of "the haves" and the "have-nots", but he addressed the matters in ways that were strictly Kenyan.

For example, African citizens usually don't own their own land. Generally, it's communal property owned by the tribes. But every once in a while and individual may own a massive stretch of land but can't farm it all or the land is worthless because nothing can grow on it (due to the lack of irrigation). Obama Sr. proposed either giving the tribes more communal property OR allowing the gov't to take ownership of the land and divide it equally to the tribes OR farm it much as many commercial entities are doing now in the U.S. This would allow for more hiring of the locals so that they could earn an income. That was the form of "nationalism" Obama Sr was referring to.

Other aspects revolved around taxes and poverty. It's a common notion that "he who has the money, gains greater rewards". This is true and very evident in our nation's politics. Just look at the number of lobbyist swarm Wash, DC and how many politicians are in the back pocket of said lobbyist. How much more does Corperate America's voice resound once they're able to line the pockets of politicians in order to sway policy in their favor? How many politicians have used social inequality to garner votes? We see it every single day!

Don't touch Medicare or you'll anger the elderly/retired, yet Medicare is taking a big chunk out of the national budget every year.

Don't touch social welfare program or else you affect the poor.

Leave those tax cuts alone for the wealthiest Americans or you'll effect job growth and stiffle productivity.

We see it every day, all the time. This is nothing new.

What IS interesting is set of social-economic views a man had 45 years ago in a country very different from our own in many ways very much apply to our country today! In that, Obama Sr wasn't that far off, and in that Newt Gingrich, for all his partisan slight-of-hand-Keynan-Socialist jibe gave good credit where credit was due. The apply doesn't fall too far from the tree. In this case, I think it's a good thing because atleast President Obama isn't beholding to any one political idealogy. Atleast he looks at the entire situation and makes a decision based on the whole instead of the smaller sum.

People may look at his economic policies, for example, and label it "class warfare," but both Sr. and Jr. are correct. For even many Concervatives have said as much just in a different way:

If the rich have the economic means to increase the measure of a man through his contributions in society, why is it then that increasing their taxes for the greater good of the nation and their follow man is so frowned upon?

This isn't necessarily my philosophy, but it is a compelling argument. Furthermore, many people who lean more Conservatively have stated repeatedly that "charity" is a good way to best help the poor. Well, if that's the case, why then are people, such as celebraties, doing more to aid those outside our boarders than within when we have so many poor at home? Seems to me charity isn't being practised very much at home. So, if that is the case is it any wonder why the rich (at this point in our country's time of economic struggle) should be taxed more? After all, they've had 30 years to spread that charity around. I don't think it worked very well. Do you?

As to the paper...it mainly discusses African/Kenya's problem from 1965, but some aspects of it could easily apply to the U.S. today.
 
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