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Gillard becomes Australia's first female prime minister as tearful Rudd stands aside

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Re: Gillard becomes Australia's first female prime minister as tearful Rudd stands as

and what year did your country give women the vote?

Well, it wasnt long ago in any country. Less than a 100 years.
 

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Re: Gillard becomes Australia's first female prime minister as tearful Rudd stands as

Well, it wasnt long ago in any country. Less than a 100 years. And, when it comes to judging an individuals attitudes towards women, it doesnt count.

i wasnt judging his individual attitude, when he says "And welcome Australia to modern world", he's not judging mine either, and i get the feeling we've been in the modern world longer than his country has.
 

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Hillary is treated like crap because she has proposed some decisive things, just like men have.

I am no fan of Hillary Clinton, but sexism does exist, and how Hillary Clinton is seen as a politician does not prove or disprove this. It is simply ridiculous to try to argue that there isnt sexism in regards to who is in the US government.
 

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i wasnt judging his individual attitude, when he says "And welcome Australia to modern world", he's not judging mine either, and i get the feeling we've been in the modern world longer than his country has.

Which country will be the first to get rid of sexism and how long will it take? If it isnt the vote, it is something else. Women being allowed to work, the gender based pay difference, women in the government, protection of women against violence laws...
 

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Re: Gillard becomes Australia's first female prime minister as tearful Rudd stands as

I am no fan of Hillary Clinton, but sexism does exist, and how Hillary Clinton is seen as a politician does not prove or disprove this. It is simply ridiculous to try to argue that there isnt sexism in regards to who is in the US government.

Nancy Pelosi then, she has made some outlandish statements as the leader of the House of Reps.
She is attacked both on policy and personally because of those things.
On the other hand, you aren't seeing to many people go after the other female reps because many of them aren't treading into crazy land.

My state's Sec of State is female, no one bad mouths her in the "dirty ole south" where men (supposedly) reign supreme.
Most everyone I know thinks she is doing a fine job.

Female or male, if you step outside the bounds of moderation and sense ability, people are going to trash you.
That is the life of politics.
 
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Re: Gillard becomes Australia's first female prime minister as tearful Rudd stands as

People would be rather uncomfortable imagining a society which produces women in as many leadership positions as men. I mean... ballsy non-subservient women.... come-on. :p
 
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Re: Gillard becomes Australia's first female prime minister as tearful Rudd stands as

People would be rather uncomfortable imagining a society which produces women in as many leadership positions as men. I mean... ballsy non-subservient women.... come-on. :p

People for centuries have been poking and critisising everything women do, say and wear. That is nothing new. But, I do think the face of politics is going to change, and a more feminine side will be introduced, as what women can offer society and the world becomes more apparent and accepted as necessary. Gender balance in poltics is something the world is starting to desperately need, before it gets completely torn appart with war and a gross uneven distrubution of wealth. But, I dont think being feminine equals sub servience. I think subsevience was womens reaction to fear of violence. That too will change, when their physical safety is constituitionally protected in all countries, and intolerance of violence is adopted in all countries. Who knows how long that will take, but politics is moving in that direction.
 
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