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Here is a list(alphabetically) of the countries bombed by the United States since the end of the Second World War. It's obvious we are the self appointed policeman of the world and nothing more than a playground bully:

Afghanistan 1998, 2001-
Bosnia 1994, 1995
Cambodia 1969-70
China 1945-46, 1950-53
Congo 1964
Cuba 1959-1961
El Salvador 1980s
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69 Indonesia 1958
Laos 1964-73
Grenada 1983
Iraq 1991-2000s
Iran 1987
Kuwait 1991
Lebanon 1983, 1984
Libya 1986, 2011
Nicaragua 1980s Pakistan 2003, 2006-
Palestine 2010
Panama 1989
Peru 1965
Somalia 1993, 2007-08, 2010-
Sudan 1998
Vietnam 1961-73
Yemen 2002, 2009-
Yugoslavia 1999
 

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Here is a list(alphabetically) of the countries bombed by the United States since the end of the Second World War. It's obvious we are the self appointed policeman of the world and nothing more than a playground bully:

Afghanistan 1998, 2001-
Bosnia 1994, 1995
Cambodia 1969-70
China 1945-46, 1950-53
Congo 1964
Cuba 1959-1961
El Salvador 1980s
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69 Indonesia 1958
Laos 1964-73
Grenada 1983
Iraq 1991-2000s
Iran 1987
Kuwait 1991
Lebanon 1983, 1984
Libya 1986, 2011
Nicaragua 1980s Pakistan 2003, 2006-
Palestine 2010
Panama 1989
Peru 1965
Somalia 1993, 2007-08, 2010-
Sudan 1998
Vietnam 1961-73
Yemen 2002, 2009-
Yugoslavia 1999

There will always be a "policeman to the world." If not the United States, who would you rather see carry out that role?
 

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There will always be a "policeman to the world." If not the United States, who would you rather see carry out that role?

LOL...we have a defense program which is the most powerful in the world by a long shot. Our military is more powerful than the next thirteen most powerful in the world. When we bomb a country and take out thousands or millions of innocent victims how the hell is that different from a six year old youngster who happens to be the biggest, strongest on a playground kicking the **** out of someone he "Just Doesn't Like?"
 

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Here is a list(alphabetically) of the countries bombed by the United States since the end of the Second World War. It's obvious we are the self appointed policeman of the world and nothing more

Palestine 2010

Link please, or did you just throw that on the list to see if anyone is paying attention?
 

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Link please, or did you just throw that on the list to see if anyone is paying attention?

Just threw it out there. Now....disprove it!

When Nixon took over he ordered the carpet bombing of North Vietnam and Cambodia which was responsible for the deaths of no less than 1,000,000 innocents. Get real here.....we didn't like communism so we attacked a nation half way around the world because they were having a civil war. You make of it what you will but nobody was trying to make the U S a communist nation. It wasn't any of our business. Why don't we ever just wait until we're attacked? I'll tell you why.....Halliburton, Boeing and General Dynamics stock would falter.
 
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LOL...we have a defense program which is the most powerful in the world by a long shot. Our military is more powerful than the next thirteen most powerful in the world. When we bomb a country and take out thousands or millions of innocent victims how the hell is that different from a six year old youngster who happens to be the biggest, strongest on a playground kicking the **** out of someone he "Just Doesn't Like?"

I realize you wanted to say this ^^^ in context with your OP, but what does that have to do with this?

There will always be a "policeman to the world." If not the United States, who would you rather see carry out that role?
 

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Just threw it out there.

Why would you do that? Obviously you are not looking for any sort of reasonable discussion if you admit to posting inaccurate material to start with.
 

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"There will always be a "policeman to the world." If not the United States, who would you rather see carry out that role? "

I realize you wanted to say this ^^^ in context with your OP, but what does that have to do with this?

I don't believe that we have been the World's Policeman. I think all the wars, bombings, military thrusts, insurgencies, etc. are organized to collect resources for influential USA Corporations like Big Oil Corporations, Big Agra, Big Mining, etc. I think the Policeman rhetoric is just a "feel good" media ploy to boost simple minded American egos.
 

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Considering the dishonest op indicated countries and there is no country called Palestine, why anybody would give credence to lies is beyond me.
 

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There will always be a "policeman to the world." If not the United States, who would you rather see carry out that role?


The USofA should ONLY use military force when it's in self-defense. That's the only time.

Who should "police the world"???

In my opinion, that's exactly what a UN should do.

By now it's obvious the current UN is 100% ineffectual and needs a bottom-up redesign, but that's the kind of organization needed for such things.

The USofA is far too self-serving to be the designated "police force" of the planet.
 

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The USofA should ONLY use military force when it's in self-defense. That's the only time.

Who should "police the world"???

In my opinion, that's exactly what a UN should do.

By now it's obvious the current UN is 100% ineffectual and needs a bottom-up redesign, but that's the kind of organization needed for such things.

The USofA is far too self-serving to be the designated "police force" of the planet.

Although you didn't quite say it, I agree with you. The United Nations should be "policeman to the world." Unfortunately, the way it's structured -- with five nations having absolute veto power -- France, the UK, Russian, China and the U.S. must always agree. (France??? Let the cheap shot go by, Maggie.)

Perhaps our diplomatic efforts should be spent aligning these five nations into a cohesive block. If the UN ever became effectual, it would be unstoppable.
 

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Who should "police the world"???
If it's going to be anyone, I want it to be MY country. We have too much investment in the world around us to have to rely on someone else to protect those investments.

In my opinion, that's exactly what a UN should do.
The U.N. is a USA-hating paper tiger. We should have pulled out of that stupid organization years ago with a finger in the air.
 

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LOL...we have a defense program which is the most powerful in the world by a long shot. Our military is more powerful than the next thirteen most powerful in the world. When we bomb a country and take out thousands or millions of innocent victims how the hell is that different from a six year old youngster who happens to be the biggest, strongest on a playground kicking the **** out of someone he "Just Doesn't Like?"

Korea-- Communist North invaded the South, an Ally that we have a defense treaty with

Vietnam-- Insurgents sponsored by the Communist North attacked S. Vietnam, an Ally with whom we had a defense treaty with. Laos and Cambodia part of that war.

Grenada-- Cubans held American students hostage while invading the Island.

Kuwait/Iraq--1991 Iraq invaded Kuwait, an Ally with whom we have a defense treaty.

To use your analogy, this is actually someone on the playground attacking the biggest, strongest kid on the playgrounds friend to which that big strong kid took exception to it and defended his less capable friend.

Iran 1987-- Iran threatened and attacked US Flagged shipping

Afghanistan--Refused to turn over terrorist that attacked US

and several others were the equivalent to someone attacking that big strong kid and receiving just due for doing it.
 

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The USofA should ONLY use military force when it's in self-defense. That's the only time.

Who should "police the world"???

In my opinion, that's exactly what a UN should do.

By now it's obvious the current UN is 100% ineffectual and needs a bottom-up redesign, but that's the kind of organization needed for such things.

The USofA is far too self-serving to be the designated "police force" of the planet.

Korea, Bosnia, Iraq (1990s), and several others were the US acting as part of the UN. For the longest time, UN taking action basically meant the US doing it under UN "guidance".
 

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Although you didn't quite say it, I agree with you. The United Nations should be "policeman to the world." Unfortunately, the way it's structured -- with five nations having absolute veto power -- France, the UK, Russian, China and the U.S. must always agree. (France??? Let the cheap shot go by, Maggie.)

Perhaps our diplomatic efforts should be spent aligning these five nations into a cohesive block. If the UN ever became effectual, it would be unstoppable.

That's the big "if" alright. 'Grats on taking the high road; it's not as if a cheap shot hasn't been earned. ;)
 

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Why would you do that? Obviously you are not looking for any sort of reasonable discussion if you admit to posting inaccurate material to start with.

Just like I said....disprove it!

Here is a list(alphabetically) of the countries bombed by the United States since the end of the Second World War. It's obvious we are the self appointed policeman of the world and nothing more than a playground bully:

Afghanistan 1998, 2001-
Bosnia 1994, 1995
Cambodia 1969-70
China 1945-46, 1950-53
Congo 1964
Cuba 1959-1961
El Salvador 1980s
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69 Indonesia 1958
Laos 1964-73
Grenada 1983
Iraq 1991-2000s
Iran 1987
Kuwait 1991
Lebanon 1983, 1984
Libya 1986, 2011
Nicaragua 1980s Pakistan 2003, 2006-
Palestine 2010
Panama 1989
Peru 1965
Somalia 1993, 2007-08, 2010-
Sudan 1998
Vietnam 1961-73
Yemen 2002, 2009-
Yugoslavia 1999
 

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Just like I said....disprove it!

Here is a list(alphabetically) of the countries bombed by the United States since the end of the Second World War. It's obvious we are the self appointed policeman of the world and nothing more than a playground bully:

Afghanistan 1998, 2001-
Bosnia 1994, 1995
Cambodia 1969-70
China 1945-46, 1950-53
Congo 1964
Cuba 1959-1961
El Salvador 1980s
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69 Indonesia 1958
Laos 1964-73
Grenada 1983
Iraq 1991-2000s
Iran 1987
Kuwait 1991
Lebanon 1983, 1984
Libya 1986, 2011
Nicaragua 1980s Pakistan 2003, 2006-
Palestine 2010
Panama 1989
Peru 1965
Somalia 1993, 2007-08, 2010-
Sudan 1998
Vietnam 1961-73
Yemen 2002, 2009-
Yugoslavia 1999

I'm still confused as to where Palestine comes in there. When has there ever been a country called Palestine? I don't remember seeing anything about us bombing anything in an area that could even be considered Palestine.
 

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I'm still confused as to where Palestine comes in there. When has there ever been a country called Palestine? I don't remember seeing anything about us bombing anything in an area that could even be considered Palestine.

It's a technicality....the Palestine International Hotel is in Baghdad, Iraq. It was bombed and shelled by U S forces. I'm sure the Palestinians housed there didn't give a fiddler's **** whether they were at home or not.
 

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It's a technicality....the Palestine International Hotel is in Baghdad, Iraq. It was bombed and shelled by U S forces. I'm sure the Palestinians housed there didn't give a fiddler's **** whether they were at home or not.

So then, if a McDonald's restaurant in Israel is bombed by terrorists, does that count as bombing the US?
 

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It would be wonderful to see what the world would be like without the benevolent hand of the United States. Unlike Commi's or Nazi's or other despots, we didn't bomb these countries to colonize them.
 

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It's a technicality....the Palestine International Hotel is in Baghdad, Iraq. It was bombed and shelled by U S forces. I'm sure the Palestinians housed there didn't give a fiddler's **** whether they were at home or not.

It's a region, not a country, never has been.
 

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LOL...we have a defense program which is the most powerful in the world by a long shot. Our military is more powerful than the next thirteen most powerful in the world. When we bomb a country and take out thousands or millions of innocent victims how the hell is that different from a six year old youngster who happens to be the biggest, strongest on a playground kicking the **** out of someone he "Just Doesn't Like?"

And those "millions" of "innocents" were . . . ?
 

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After Saddam's chemical weapons showed up in Syria, one would think liberals would be too embarrassed to post. Took us ten years to find them, but now that we have, the Bush equation remains. Chemical weapons must be destroyed. Liberal messiah Obama belatedly agrees with Bush and is willing to attack, as was Bush.

While Bush may have overdid it with a half-million men, a couple $Trillion and eight years of violence, there doesn't seem to be a substantive difference between Bush and Obama. Like so many Bush policies, Obama's come around to Bush's way of thinking.

Liberals should be ashamed. Ashamed of criticizing Bush and ashamed of electing a "genius" messiah who can't think for himself.

There are things worth fighting for. If we're attacked. If we're threatened. If bad actors block free-trade, sea lanes, etc.. All are justifications for use of force.

Out of the 26 countries listed by the OP, how many have been colonized with ongoing domination by the U.S.? Most countries on the OP's list don't have any U.S. troops stationed and the one's that do beg us to defend them (like S. Korea). America's motives are pure, yet the false-accusing left seeks to blame America. Crawl back under your rocks false accusers.

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LOL...we have a defense program which is the most powerful in the world by a long shot. Our military is more powerful than the next thirteen most powerful in the world. When we bomb a country and take out thousands or millions of innocent victims how the hell is that different from a six year old youngster who happens to be the biggest, strongest on a playground kicking the **** out of someone he "Just Doesn't Like?"

Define innocent victims.

Also, how many died under communist regimes and places that we didn't involve ourselves in? How many did the "peace loving peoples of North Vietnam" kill when they invaded Laos and Cambodia after the US left? How many did the Khmer Rouge kill? Whats the current totals for the same time period for the genocides throughout sub-Saharan Africa?

Even places where we did intervene, what was the body count of ethnic cleansing in form Yugoslavia? What about Somalia? What was Saddam's body count before he was finally removed? Or the Taliban's?

Or were all those guilty not innocents? Do you think you should be allowed to live in peace and not have your government murder you, but because of the accident of birth, others deserve it? The strong can either protect and guard the weak, or they can bully and oppress them. The US isn't always perfect or even right, but our record is far, far more in the protect and guard column.
 
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