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Get A Damn Job!

Moderate Right

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The lefty media's lies never end and they don't even realize how stupid they sound. Here's an article about how Republican Governors cutting off extra federal unemployment benefits aren't really getting these people to go out looking for jobs. BUT these poor people are hurting and can't pay their bills now and are having trouble affording food and other basic living necessities, with just about all employers looking for workers. Well, no duh! Get A Damn Job! The left want to let them keep not working even when jobs are available and pay them enough money to live on.



 
The lefty media's lies never end and they don't even realize how stupid they sound. Here's an article about how Republican Governors cutting off extra federal unemployment benefits aren't really getting these people to go out looking for jobs. BUT these poor people are hurting and can't pay their bills now and are having trouble affording food and other basic living necessities, with just about all employers looking for workers. Well, no duh! Get A Damn Job! The left want to let them keep not working even when jobs are available and pay them enough money to live on.




Why is it that to motivate the rich, righties want to give them more, but to motivate the poor, righties want to take more?

And don't make an argument for trickle-down. Trickle-down is a hoax.
 
The lefty media's lies never end and they don't even realize how stupid they sound. Here's an article about how Republican Governors cutting off extra federal unemployment benefits aren't really getting these people to go out looking for jobs. BUT these poor people are hurting and can't pay their bills now and are having trouble affording food and other basic living necessities, with just about all employers looking for workers. Well, no duh! Get A Damn Job! The left want to let them keep not working even when jobs are available and pay them enough money to live on.




Hmmm... another yahoo article within 20 minutes. I do have to wonder what yahoo is paying these days.

Anyways what are all these magical jobs that are available, pay you enough money to live on, and don't have to deal with the shitty public?
 
The lefty media's lies never end and they don't even realize how stupid they sound. Here's an article about how Republican Governors cutting off extra federal unemployment benefits aren't really getting these people to go out looking for jobs. BUT these poor people are hurting and can't pay their bills now and are having trouble affording food and other basic living necessities, with just about all employers looking for workers. Well, no duh! Get A Damn Job! The left want to let them keep not working even when jobs are available and pay them enough money to live on.




Gee, I wonder what people did before the easier access to unemployment benefits plus the added Federal bonus money all due to Covid-19 shut-downs?

Oh yeah, THEY FOUND WORK, even if it wasn't what they wanted, but paid the bills until they found a better job, that's what.

I have very little sympathy for people who are boo-hooing over not being able to get Federal benefits anymore.

Work is out there Folks. Get a job.
 
Gee, I wonder what people did before the easier access to unemployment benefits plus the added Federal bonus money all due to Covid-19 shut-downs?

Oh yeah, THEY FOUND WORK, even if it wasn't what they wanted, but paid the bills until they found a better job, that's what.

I have very little sympathy for people who are boo-hooing over not being able to get federal benefits anymore.

Work is out there Folks. Get a job.

^ Another useless, out-of-touch comment.
 
The left want to let them keep not working even when jobs are available and pay them enough money to live on.
  • Only 6% of unemployment recipients would be motivated to go back to work when their unemployment benefits ended.
  • Only 14% of those surveyed were getting more money from unemployment benefits than from their last job.


@Moderate Right you seem to skim the surface of issues and habitually engage in confirmation bias which usually does nothing to prove your assertions. My advice is to stop worrying about how stupid the "lefty media" sounds and start paying more attention to how you sound.
 
The lefty media's lies never end and they don't even realize how stupid they sound. Here's an article about how Republican Governors cutting off extra federal unemployment benefits aren't really getting these people to go out looking for jobs. BUT these poor people are hurting and can't pay their bills now and are having trouble affording food and other basic living necessities, with just about all employers looking for workers. Well, no duh! Get A Damn Job! The left want to let them keep not working even when jobs are available and pay them enough money to live on.



Wait…so are you conceding that the expanded UE benefits isn’t what was causing some folks not to seek out employment during and in the immediate aftermath of the pandemic? Isn’t that what the non-Trumpists were arguing all along?
 
Why is it that to motivate the rich, righties want to give them more, but to motivate the poor, righties want to take more?

And don't make an argument for trickle-down. Trickle-down is a hoax.
Nobody gives the rich anything to motivate them. The rich gives the politicians stuff to motivate them to help raise their profits. It's a win-win situation that's been going on for more than 40 years.

And nobody is talking about "the poor". The OP is talking about people who don't want to work because the government makes sure they aren't poor.
 
Gee, I wonder what people did before the easier access to unemployment benefits plus the added Federal bonus money all due to Covid-19 shut-downs?

Oh yeah, THEY FOUND WORK, even if it wasn't what they wanted, but paid the bills until they found a better job, that's what.

I have very little sympathy for people who are boo-hooing over not being able to get Federal benefits anymore.

Work is out there Folks. Get a job.

Biden let the cat out of the bagwhen he suggested, during his recent fake ‘town hall’, that the ‘solution’ was for employers to raise their pay (by more than $300/week?) to entice folks (now being paid more not to work) to return to work.
 
The lefty media's lies never end and they don't even realize how stupid they sound. Here's an article about how Republican Governors cutting off extra federal unemployment benefits aren't really getting these people to go out looking for jobs. BUT these poor people are hurting and can't pay their bills now and are having trouble affording food and other basic living necessities, with just about all employers looking for workers. Well, no duh! Get A Damn Job! The left want to let them keep not working even when jobs are available and pay them enough money to live on.




The right wants people to live in poverty to subsidize their cheap burgers because right wingers don't take the personal responsibility to actually pay for a service, they demand the taxpayers subsidize the pay of places like McDonalds and Walmart.
 
Biden let the cat out of the bagwhen he suggested, during his recent fake ‘town hall’, that the ‘solution’ was for employers to raise their pay (by more than $300/week?) to entice folks (now being paid not to work) to return to work.

Weird how supply and demand are so goddamned important until the market forces start driving wages up. Suddenly you think the idea is absurd.

The enhanced unemployment is having little to no effect on people choosing to return to work or not.

Places offering $15/hour are having no trouble filling positions.
 
The lefty media's lies never end and they don't even realize how stupid they sound. Here's an article about how Republican Governors cutting off extra federal unemployment benefits aren't really getting these people to go out looking for jobs. BUT these poor people are hurting and can't pay their bills now and are having trouble affording food and other basic living necessities, with just about all employers looking for workers. Well, no duh! Get A Damn Job! The left want to let them keep not working even when jobs are available and pay them enough money to live on.



Tell you what. Try to have a life on the small amount of income paid as UE compensation. Then tell me how it's preventing people from going back to work.
 
The right wants people to live in poverty to subsidize their cheap burgers because right wingers don't take the personal responsibility to actually pay for a service, they demand the taxpayers subsidize the pay of places like McDonalds and Walmart.

The major flaw in that argument is that mandating higher pay causes the price of all goods and services to increase (aka inflation) which hurts those with lower incomes more.

Subsidizing some of the lowest wage workers (generally limited to those with minor dependents) using tax revenue shifts that burden to those who pay the bulk of the taxes (aka not those with lower incomes).
 
Gee, I wonder what people did before the easier access to unemployment benefits plus the added Federal bonus money all due to Covid-19 shut-downs?

Oh yeah, THEY FOUND WORK, even if it wasn't what they wanted, but paid the bills until they found a better job, that's what.

I have very little sympathy for people who are boo-hooing over not being able to get Federal benefits anymore.

Work is out there Folks. Get a job.

They often suffered, and lost their homes & apartments.
 
Weird how supply and demand are so goddamned important until the market forces start driving wages up. Suddenly you think the idea is absurd.

The enhanced unemployment is having little to no effect on people choosing to return to work or not.

Places offering $15/hour are having no trouble filling positions.

Not so. Let’s say someone who was working full-time for $15/hour ($600/week) now gets $10/hour ($400/week) in state UI benefits plus $7.50/hour ($300/week) as a federal UI bonus - that makes them paid $17.50/hour ($700/week) not to work and leaves them able to make tax-free cash doing (off the books) side jobs (like mowing lawns or babysitting).

The employer must offer at least $2.50/hour ($100/week) more (than $15/hour) just to have them break even - more if that removes their chance to keep making tax-free cash doing (off the books) side jobs and adds commuting expenses plus ‘windshield time’
 
Or returned to work. ;)

Of course. But they could not be on U.I., if they refused to return. So, I don't see what the complaint is? If they don't return, report them & kick them off. Fair is fair.
 
Of course. But they could not be on U.I., if they refused to return. So, I don't see what the complaint is? If they don't return, report them & kick them off. Fair is fair.

That might work, but only if their former employer is still in business and wants to add a really pissed off employee. See post #15.
 
Increasing wages to $15 may incentive more people to enter the workforce. There are many people who can work, but do not need to do so. Think of Baby Boomers who are retired and living off of their savings at the moment. Millions of Boomers left the workforce due to the age-related risks of COVID. They have no dire need for a paycheck, but the incentive may permit some of them to come back.

Ultimately the labor pool is shrinking when you look big picture. There just is not as many Gen Zs entering the workforce as there were Boomers. As the months tick by the amount of working age adults is shrinking - if you exclude immigration. That's also a problem, though, because COVID prevented a lot of immigration to the US and work visa issuance.
 
All this shows is what pitiful pay so many people are getting for their work. What is so wrong with paying people a living wage? Why, exactly, are conservative against paying people a living wage? What, don't be a lazy *****-cat and go get a 2nd job? What is your problem?
 
All this shows is what pitiful pay so many people are getting for their work. What is so wrong with paying people a living wage? Why, exactly, are conservative against paying people a living wage? What, don't be a lazy *****-cat and go get a 2nd job? What is your problem?

Define a “living wage”.

What is so right about paying someone more in UI benefits than they got while working?

See post #15.
 
I believe increasing entry level wages is the smartest thing an employer can do at the moment. The pandemic unleased a tidal wave of retirements, delayed graduations, long term illnesses, deaths, and a material deficit of working-age immigrants. The market's just not going to return to that level of cheap labor.

Landlords in the denser areas of Chicago are feeling the same type of "change resistance" pain. They've been charging exorbitant rents for years, and it's been a given that they'll be increasing it year over year. Tiny 600 sq. foot apartments that go for $1400-$2000 a month.

But, now that everyone was forced to live in isolation in a 600 sq. foot box for a couple months -- It's all about big houses, big yards, open spaces and sunshine. There ain't a snowball's chance in hell that these landlords are going to be able to charge that much ever again. (Which still doesn't seem to have sunk-in given the record high vacancy rates. SMH.)
 
There are a lot of anecdotes and declarations in this thread that aren't backed up by facts.
 
I believe increasing entry level wages is the smartest thing an employer can do at the moment. The pandemic unleased a tidal wave of retirements, delayed graduations, long term illnesses, deaths, and a material deficit of working-age immigrants. The market's just not going to return to that level of cheap labor.

Landlords in the denser areas of Chicago are feeling the same type of "change resistance" pain. They've been charging exorbitant rents for years, and it's been a given that they'll be increasing it year over year. Tiny 600 sq. foot apartments that go for $1400-$2000 a month.

But, now that everyone was forced to live in isolation in a 600 sq. foot box for a couple months -- It's all about big houses, big yards, open spaces and sunshine. There ain't a snowball's chance in hell that these landlords are going to be able to charge that much ever again. (Which still doesn't seem to have sunk-in given the record high vacancy rates. SMH.)

Folks expect (and feel that they deserve) more pay for doing more skilled (and/or experienced) work. Raising the “entry level” wage can’t be done in a vacuum - it will (must?) ripple up to (and slightly above) the median wage (currently) being offered.
 
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