Georgia’s repulsive new election law is Exhibit A in the GOP’s war on voting rights

[Moderate Right]

Georgia’s repulsive new election law is Exhibit A in the GOP’s war on voting rights

Georgia police arresting State Rep. Park Cannon for protesting the state's new JIm Crow voting laws.




This is just despicable, in your face racism by the Georgia Republican Party.

They're going back to 1950 even if they have to destroy democracy to do so.

Republicans NEVER take people's voting rights away. But Democrats are always wanting everyone to vote, the dead, the moved, the illegals, anyone who can get a ballot. It's not taking voting rights away by continuing the very same thing we have done for hundreds of years.

 

[Citizen]

So what? Not every state has run-off election opportunities.
Georgia does.

This is not about your small world, this is about Georgia

 

[HangLow]

Republicans NEVER take people's voting rights away.
But Democrats are always wanting everyone to vote,
the dead, the moved, the illegals, anyone who can get a ballot.
It's not taking voting rights away by continuing
the very same thing we have done for hundreds of years.

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[HangLow]

Georgia’s repulsive new election law is Exhibit A in the GOP’s war on voting rights

Georgia police arresting State Rep. Park Cannon for protesting the state's new JIm Crow voting laws.




This is just despicable, in your face racism by the Georgia Republican Party.

They're going back to 1950 even if they have to destroy democracy to do so.

This is just despicable,
in your face racism by the Republican Party.

They're going back to 1950
even if they have to destroy democracy to do so.

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[j brown's body]

Republicans NEVER take people's voting rights away. But Democrats are always wanting everyone to vote, the dead, the moved, the illegals, anyone who can get a ballot. It's not taking voting rights away by continuing the very same thing we have done for hundreds of years.

Nice rant. Feel better?

 

[j brown's body]

It puts it into the hands of elected legislators.
In other words, those election officials whose bungling result in 5 hour waits? Those fellows are now POLITICALLY accountable for their poor management.
Democracy in action.

They dknt care. They are are accountable to voters in gerrymandered districts who don't wait 5 hours.

 

[Athanasius68]

They dknt care. They are are accountable to voters in gerrymandered districts who don't wait 5 hours.

The accountability begins now with the reform.
The accountable reps would be those within those polling stations.

 

[Athanasius68]

How is prohibiting giving drinking water to someone that's dehydrated, standing in 90 degree heat, charging that person with a crime if they dare give water to that person -- how is that in any way Constitutional or even humane? Of all the mixed messages we're getting regarding the other portions of this bill like requiring an ID to get an absentee ballot, or removing 90% of early voting ballot drop-boxes, but oh those early vote ballot drop boxes aren't going to be outside the polling location any longer, that one drop box is going to be moved INSIDE the building and the place closes at 5pm, just about the time blue collar workers are getting out of work. How is that encouraging more voter participation as a good democracy should be doing?

But this one article of the Bill, prohibiting of giving 'aid and comfort' to people waiting hours in line, is perhaps the most blatantly evil, cruel, and as close as it gets to Jim Crow laws. What's next? Will there be a return of the 'White only' drinking fountains in public places? Maybe one day soon, Georgia polling places will have a back door for African Americans to enter and only White rednecks allowed to saunter in proudly through the front door. It sounds absurd, but I believe that's where the GOP wants to take us.

The idea behind prohibiting food and drink at the polls (by states across the country) was due to the real problem of bribery at the polls.
It has nothing to do with 'voter suppression.' Georgia law allows campaign officials to hand out water, or unattended vending machines to hand out water.

 

[rickc]

Votes for water bottles. Really?

 

[natman]

Votes for water bottles. Really?

It's illegal almost everywhere to do anything to influence votes outside polling places. You can't hold up signs, you can't wear a candidate's T-shirt and you can't give people things.

Again the real question that needs to be addressed is why are there such long lines outside of polling places in the first place.

 

[OscarLevant]

That is false. Water can be distributed-- by pollworkers or a standalone water dispensation.
The idea being to avoid politicking and appearances of bribery at the polls.

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t's true, you cant bring water or snacks to your friends in line

 

[OscarLevant]

Georgia's new voting laws go a long way to prevent voter fraud. That is the reasons so many democrats are against it. It prevents stolen elections, and is NOT a burden to anyone that wants to vote.

Aside from the fact that no presidential election has ever been proven to be stolen, including this one, what we have here is a solution in search of a problem.

But for Donald Trump poisoning the landscape of the body politic, this bill would have never been brought forward.

 

[jnug]

IMO the Bill is also Exhibit A in the recent GOP practice of throwing shit against the wall and depending on the slowness of the court system to catch up with them. The Language in this Bill is crap. Much of it likely will not stand scrutiny.

 

[natman]

IMO the Bill is also Exhibit A in the recent GOP practice of throwing shit against the wall and depending on the slowness of the court system to catch up with them. The Language in this Bill is crap. Much of it likely will not stand scrutiny.

Don't just SAY it's crap. Quote the bill and explain how.

 

[natman]

Aside from the fact that no presidential election has ever been proven to be stolen, including this one, what we have here is a solution in search of a problem.

But for Donald Trump poisoning the landscape of the body politic, this bill would have never been brought forward.

You don't design security systems around "we don't believe this has ever happened before", you design them around what could happen. And the hard, cold truth is that election security has been thoroughly trashed in the last election. That doesn't necessarily mean that there was fraud; but the system is now wide open for abuse.

 

[Callen]

Posted this on a different thread but think it is worth releasing here.

I think all of this will backfire on the GOP big time. We can argue suppression or election integrity as mostly whites on a political forum until the cows come home but it is what the voters of Georgia perceive that matters. The Black community is furious with what they see as an overt racist attempt to suppress their vote and they are organizing. Churches and community groups are putting together groups to assist people without ID in getting some, others are ensuring registrations, others are preparing legal challenges. Stacy Abrahms is expected to run for Governor and that will further energize them.

I think the GOP in Georgia will rue the day they alienated Black voters instead of reaching out to them, especially the socially conservative Black community.

 

[Rawley]

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Make your best case for racist voter suppression in the GA law. You have the floor.

 

[natman]

Churches and community groups are putting together groups to assist people without ID in getting some,

You have to be a citizen to vote legally. You can only legally vote once per election. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to require proof of citizenship and identity in order to vote. And getting ID for the small group of people who don't have one is exactly how the problem should be handled. Not only will it allow them to vote, but it will make their lives easier in many different ways.

 

[Athanasius68]

It's illegal almost everywhere to do anything to influence votes outside polling places. You can't hold up signs, you can't wear a candidate's T-shirt and you can't give people things.

Again the real question that needs to be addressed is why are there such long lines outside of polling places in the first place.

In Georgia under the old law, the board of elections members were unelected and unaccountable.
And voila, it was difficult to deal with their mismanagement of the pols.
Now-- they are under elected supervision, and are thus accountable for their failures-- such as 5 hour wait lines.

 

[OscarLevant]

You don't design security systems around "we don't believe this has ever happened before", you design them around what could happen. .

Well now, that sounds nice, so let's take a closer look....

What came first? Robberies or cops? Computer viruses or antivirus software? Malware or Malwarebytes? Arrows or Armor? Football or football helmuts? Sand or Pearls?

Your hypothesis doesn't appear to be correct.

It's 1. problems. 2. solutions. NOT solutions for non-existent and/or imaginary problems,, particular when, in the entire 250 years of voting history NOT ONE ****NG ELECTON HAS EVER BEEN STOLEN.

Give me a break.

 

[OscarLevant]

It's illegal almost everywhere to do anything to influence votes outside polling places. You can't hold up signs, you can't wear a candidate's T-shirt and you can't give people things.

Again the real question that needs to be addressed is why are there such long lines outside of polling places in the first place.

We're not giving them money to vote on way or the other, we are helping people endure the hardship of standing in line for hours, surely you can grasp the difference.

 

[jnug]

t's true, you cant bring water or snacks to your friends in line
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Good luck enforcing this piece of the Legislation Georgia. I hope people bring their own food and drink and lustily partake while in line. I hope there are booths and tables all over the place OUTSIDE the boundaries set and therefore able to Solicit while doing it if they choose. Watch enforcers running around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to figure out where all this food and drink came from and what to do about it.

 

[Athanasius68]

t's true, you cant bring water or snacks to your friends in line

Good luck enforcing this piece of the Legislation Georgia. I hope people bring their own food and drink and lustily partake while in line. I hope there are booths and tables all over the place OUTSIDE the boundaries set and therefore able to Solicit while doing it if they choose. Watch enforcers running around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to figure out where all this food and drink came from and what to do about it.
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Thats the problem the law seeks to avoid.

 

[Athanasius68]

Posted this on a different thread but think it is worth releasing here.

I think all of this will backfire on the GOP big time. We can argue suppression or election integrity as mostly whites on a political forum until the cows come home but it is what the voters of Georgia perceive that matters. The Black community is furious with what they see as an overt racist attempt to suppress their vote and they are organizing. Churches and community groups are putting together groups to assist people without ID in getting some, others are ensuring registrations, others are preparing legal challenges. Stacy Abrahms is expected to run for Governor and that will further energize them.

I think the GOP in Georgia will rue the day they alienated Black voters instead of reaching out to them, especially the socially conservative Black community.

With all due respect, the new laws in Georgia are not unlike the election laws in Canada.
So where is 'voter suppression' nonsense coming from?
It could be true that "black community" are being fed misinformation about the electoral law and that might have electoral consequences. But it seems the answer isn't to humor such misinformation, but to --- resist- the misinformation

 

[jnug]

Good luck enforcing this piece of the Legislation Georgia. I hope people bring their own food and drink and lustily partake while in line. I hope there are booths and tables all over the place OUTSIDE the boundaries set and therefore able to Solicit while doing it if they choose. Watch enforcers running around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to figure out where all this food and drink came from and what to do about it.

Thats the problem the law seeks to avoid.
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Good luck with that Georgia. The Bill is poorly written. Unenforceable to any meaningful effect and punitive with regard to its food and drink stipulations. Laughable with regard to the so-called non-partisan language in this State Election Board nonsense. Simply unfair in its Registration application language.

The Solicitation language is fairly straightforward. They should have stopped there, while they were ahead.