It absolutely is ad hominem. You attacked his political lean which is irrelevant in regards to whether or not what he said is true. He lied about nothing.
Can you disprove what the doctor said?
Read the tread. Your lies had been addressed.
So, where's this thread?
I understand the topic may be interesting to you, if I have time and if it is still somewhere and if I find it – I will post the discussion where I went into details and submitted full documentation for the statements above.
Thank you.
After severe criticism from numerous blogs, CNN has pulled the YouTube video teamed with the story above for unstated reasons. But you can discover the why's and wherefore's here:Mads Gilbert, the Norwegian doctor in Gaza, interviewed by sky news;
YouTube - Doctor Decries Israeli Attacks
TRANSCRIPT:
Just a little bit more than an hour ago, the Israelis bombed the central fruit market in Gaza City, and we had a mass influx of about 50 injured and between 10 and 15 killed. At the same time, they bombed an apartment house with children playing on the roof, and we had a lot of children also. It's really like a scene from Dante's Inferno. It's like hell here now. They've been bombing all night, close to 500 people have been killed, and the number of casualties is getting to two and a half thousand of which 50% are children and women.
Are your hospitals reaching capacity? Can you deal with these people?
We have been doing surgery around the clock. I've just talked to one of my colleagues in the ICU who has not slept for three days. The hospital is completely overcrowded, we are running six, seven hours.
There are injuries you just don't want to see in this world. There are children coming in with open abdomens and legs cut off. We just had a child.. we had to amputate both the legs and the arm. And the only crime they have done is being civilians, the Palestinians, living in Gaza. The relief now is not more doctors and more drugs, the relief now is to stop the bombing immediately. This cannot go on. It's a disaster.
You've talked about the civilians, the women, the children, the men who are not involved in this, but are you also getting casualties that are Hamas fighters?
To be honest, we came on New Year's Eve in the morning, I've seen ONE military person among the tens, I mean, the hundreds that we have seen and treated. So anybody who tries to portray this as sort of a clean war against another army are lying. This is an all out war against the civilian Palestinian population in Gaza, and we can prove that with the numbers.
And you have to remember, the average age of the Gaza inhabitants is 17 years. It's a very young population, and 80% are living below the poverty limit of the UN. So this is a poor and very young people, and they are able to escape absolutely nowhere because they cannot flee like other populations can in wartime, because they are fenced in and they are in a cage. So they are bombing one and a half million people in a cage. And young people, poor people, and you know, you cannot separate between the civilians and the fighters in such a situation.
After severe criticism from numerous blogs, CNN has pulled the YouTube video teamed with the story above for unstated reasons. But you can discover the why's and wherefore's here:
Confederate Yankee: Anatomy of a Media Hoax
The submitted video is a fabrication.
The submitted video is a fabrication.
Jakers didn't address anything. The brother of the phony "victim" provided the obviously fabricated video. Interview? Gilbert is hardly a neutral and unbiased mouthpiece. You may as well read Khaled Meshaal.Jakers addressed your speculative assertion above. Mads Gilbert is a physician and was in Gaza before the Massacre started. He did not provide the footage, my interest was his interview which i provided a transcript for.
You forgot a few critical facts;Here are some facts;
Over 1100 people killed many are women and children
Over 5000 injured including many women and children
The IDF is bombing Gaza using air, land and sea
There are hospitals in Gaza to take care of the wounded and that includes performing surgiers.
Strange Al-Jazeera didn't cover the 7,500 Hamas rockets from 2004-2009. But then again, I suppose an Arab media outlet wouldn't find that outrage at all newsworthy.For those interested, Al-Jazeera has set up an online Creative Commons Repository for raw footage from Gaza, it covers the last 16 days.
Jakers didn't address anything. The brother of the phony "victim" provided the obviously fabricated video. Interview? Gilbert is hardly a neutral and unbiased mouthpiece. You may as well read Khaled Meshaal.
You forgot a few critical facts;
The Hamas Charter
7,500 Hamas Hamas rockets fired into Israel
Jakers didn't address anything.
After severe criticism from numerous blogs, CNN has pulled the YouTube video teamed with the story above for unstated reasons[/QUOTE
First, CNN did not say that the video is Fake.
Gaza video genuine, journalists say - CNN.com
(CNN) -- There's no truth to accusations by bloggers that a Palestinian camera crew staged a video showing the death of the videographer's brother after an Israeli rocket attack, said the team's employer.
"It's absolute nonsense," Paul Martin, co-owner of World News and Features, said of accusations leveled by bloggers at videographer Ashraf Mashharawi.
"He's a man of enormous integrity and would never get involved with any sort of manipulation of images, let alone when the person dying is his own brother," Martin said. "I know the whole family. I know them very well. ... [Mashharawi] is upset and angry that anyone would think of him having done anything like this. ... This is ridiculous. He's independent."
Raafat Hamdouna, administrative director at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, said Friday that "Mahmoud Khalil Mashharawi, a 12-year-old, was brought to the hospital, and he was breathing, but he was hit in the head and all over his body by shrapnel. He died later in the hospital. He was treated by the Norwegian team. When he was brought in, he was breathing. The team did their best to save him. I am not really sure if they even tried to rush him to the surgery room, because he was badly hurt."
Second, you asserted that "severe criticism from numerous blogs" but you referenced only one single blog which as Jakers stated is biased with a slogan that says "liberalism is a persistent vegetative state".
Now, you may find such a blog worthy, but I do not. Most people know that blogs and message boards are harly neutral or objective sources of information.
But never the less, I will address your comments about the other video.
Gaza video genuine, journalists say - CNN.com(CNN) -- There's no truth to accusations by bloggers that a Palestinian camera crew staged a video showing the death of the videographer's brother after an Israeli rocket attack, said the team's employer.
"It's absolute nonsense," Paul Martin, co-owner of World News and Features, said of accusations leveled by bloggers at videographer Ashraf Mashharawi.
All ya have to do is Google it. There are dozens.Second, you asserted that "severe criticism from numerous blogs" but you referenced only one single blog which as Jakers stated is biased with a slogan that says "liberalism is a persistent vegetative state".
If it was just one blog, yea okay. But it's not. I also tried to find the converse - bloggers proving that the video is genuine - nothing.Now, you may find such a blog worthy, but I do not. Most people know that blogs and message boards are harly neutral or objective sources of information.
Journalists say? Here is the website of World News and Features. CNN is covering its ass with this? :rofl
Quote:
Originally Posted by SquareMelon
Mads Gilbert, the Norwegian doctor in Gaza, interviewed by sky news;
YouTube - Doctor Decries Israeli Attacks
TRANSCRIPT:
Just ......
After severe criticism from numerous blogs, CNN has pulled the YouTube video teamed with the story above for unstated reasons. But you can discover the why's and wherefore's here:
Confederate Yankee: Anatomy of a Media Hoax
The submitted video is a fabrication.
:rofl and :spin: as much as you like, fact remains that you are using blogs and bloggers to support your position. Ya know, some of those posts in blogs are just like yours... explained below...
What you did was claiming that the footage I submitted was a fake which is totally untrue since you were talking about another footage. Relevant text is bold and underlined for easy reference.This is either deliberate mis information or an indication that you did not view the footage I supplied and just put together something.. anything... The later is even worse than the former:2razz:
Though what issurprising, is that, two members thanked you for it. Next time I suggest people pay more attention when they read your posts before they thank you:mrgreen:
Again
The video clip I submitted
YouTube - Doctor Decries Israeli Attacks
The video clip Tashah is talking about
YouTube - Gaza CNN : Cameraman captures death of younger brother
Journalists say? Here is the website of World News and Features. CNN is covering its ass with this? :rofl
btw... in 2004 videographer Ashraf Mashharawi was the General Manager of nepras.net which operated the main Hamas website and also the website of Hamas’ radio station Voice of Al Aqsa.
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