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Gay teens executed in Iran

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Surenderer said:
cnredd,

No disrespect bro but why do you think that Iran would have done these things? It's no secret that they dont like Israel but to say that they would have attacked Turkey for their Goverment when even today they have trade relations seems a little out there..So what if Iran gets Nukes.....Pakistian has them and they havent used them and they have a way worse record in human rights and terrorism......I'm writing a paper on Iran and interested in hearing your thoughts

peace
Surrender doesn't mind if people who think like this have nuclear weapons...
 

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debate_junkie said:
girls as young as 9..boy's as young as 15? that is horrible.. and should be stopped immediately. Executing children.. oh right I forgot, this is Iran. They seem to have no conscience.
Sounds alot like Texas to me lol lol.
 

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The middle east is a sick place in our world. Its like hell on earth. The only good nation over there is Israel and they get blown up every day.
 

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Makes the Days of the Shah Look pretty good.
 

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Re: Homosexual teens have not yet been executed in Iran

Well, they execute people for engaging in heterosexuality too in Iran, but apparently NaughtyNurse the self-identified male homosexual wants to paint only homosexuals as victims in keeping with the Homosexual Agenda Chapter's 2 and 3 of making homosexuals look like victims rather than agressive challengers:

[2] PORTRAY GAYS AS VICTIMS, NOT AS AGGRESSIVE CHALLENGERS.

In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to assume the role of protector. If gays are presented, instead, as a strong and prideful tribe promoting a rigidly nonconformist and deviant lifestyle, they are more likely to be seen as a public menace that justifies resistance and oppression. For that reason, we must forego the temptation to strut our "gay pride" publicly when it conflicts with the Gay Victim image. And we must walk the fine line between impressing straights with our great numbers, on the one hand, and sparking their hostile paranoia-"They are all around us!"--on the other.

A media campaign to promote the Gay Victim image should make use of symbols which reduce the mainstream's sense of threat, which lower it's guard, and which enhance the plausibility of victimization. In practical terms, this means that jaunty mustachioed musclemen would keep very low profile in gay commercials and other public presentations, while sympathetic figures of nice young people, old people, and attractive women would be featured. (It almost goes without saying that groups on the farthest margin of acceptability such as NAMBLA, [Ed note -- North American Man-Boy Love Association] must play no part at all in such a campaign: suspected child-molesters will never look like victims.)

Now, there are two different messages about the Gay Victim that are worth communicating. First, the mainstream should be told that gays are victims of fate, in the sense that most never had a choice to accept or reject their sexual preference. The message must read: "As far as gays can tell, they were born gay, just as you were born heterosexual or white or black or bright or athletic. Nobody ever tricked or seduced them; they never made a choice, and are not morally blameworthy. What they do isn't willfully contrary - it's only natural for them. This twist of fate could as easily have happened to you!"

Straight viewers must be able to identify with gays as victims. Mr. and Mrs. Public must be given no extra excuses to say, "they are not like us." To this end, the persons featured in the public campaign should be decent and upright, appealing and admirable by straight standards, completely unexceptionable in appearance--in a word, they should be indistinguishable from the straights we would like to reach. (To return to the terms we have used in previous articles, spokesmen for our cause must be R-type "straight gays" rather than Q-type "homosexuals on
display.") Only under such conditions will the message be read correctly: "These folks are victims of a fate that could have happened to me."

By the way, we realize that many gays will question an advertising technique, which might threaten to make homosexuality look like some dreadful disease, which strikes fated "victims". But the plain fact is that the gay community is weak and must manipulate the powers of the weak, including the play for sympathy. In any case, we compensate for the negative aspect of this gay victim appeal under Principle 4. (Below)

The second message would portray gays as victims of society. The straight majority does not recognize the suffering it brings to the lives of gays and must be shown: graphic pictures of brutalized gays; dramatizations of job and housing insecurity, loss of child custody, and public humiliation: and the dismal list goes on.

"... In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to assume the role of protector."

[3] GIVE PROTECTORS A JUST CAUSE.

A media campaign that casts gays as society's victims and encourages straights to be their protectors must make it easier for those to respond to assert and explain their new protectiveness. Few straight women, and even fewer straight men, will want to defend homosexuality boldly as such. Most would rather attach their awakened protective impulse to some principle of justice or law, to some general desire for consistent and fair treatment in society. Our campaign should not demand direct support for homosexual practices, should instead take anti-discrimination as its theme. The right to free speech, freedom of beliefs, freedom of association, due process and equal protection of laws-these should be the concerns brought to mind by our campaign.

It is especially important for the gay movement to hitch its cause to accepted standards of law and justice because its straight supporters must have at hand a cogent reply to the moral arguments of its enemies. The homophobes clothe their emotional revulsion in the daunting robes of religious dogma, so defenders of gay rights must be ready to counter dogma with principle."
 
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GarzaUK said:
Sounds alot like Texas to me lol lol.
I would expect that from Billo or Champs...not a moderator...
 

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Re: Homosexual teen pedophiles executed in Iran

Correction....apparently the two have been now executed, but NaughtyNurse has expediently left out some very important information, and that is in Iran, in spite of what the Sharia laws' decrees, normally people are not executed for engaging in homosexuality alone...and that is there were reports that both men were convicted of theft, drunkeness and raping a 13 year old boy. I am sure homosexual agenda operatives will try to discredit that, because they don't want people to know that these two were possibly hooligan homosexual pedophile child molesters. Naughtynurse the self identified male homosexual has also conveniently failed to tell you that the 16 yar old teen girl that was executed for HETEROSEXUAL SEX......he apparently omitted that little bit of information because he wants to use the "Portray Gays As Victims tactic" espoused in the aforementioned Homosexual Agenda.
 
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brianlp01 said:
The middle east is a sick place in our world. Its like hell on earth. The only good nation over there is Israel and they get blown up every day.
yes shooting peaceful demonstators, destroying peoples homes, deciding to randomly put a new country ontop of palestine. Great country isnt it?
 

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I don't call throwing rocks at peoples heads "peaceful", nor of blowing up people having dinner out an outdoor cafe "peaceful".

The Palestinians are a bunch of Third World Savages, and their leadership foments savagery.
 

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JOHNYJ said:
Makes the Days of the Shah Look pretty good.
One of the main differences being that even though the laws in Iran are draconian, under the shah they were arbitrary. Iran has more a government of laws now than before. The laws still suck. But under the shah it had a government of men where the whims of those in power held more sway than the law.
Vaguely and generally speaking of course.
 

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This is too barbaric for words.

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