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I just want to know why the people who hate gays....well.......hate them? WHY?

I mean WHY DO U CARE?
 
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y not peace? said:
I just want to know why the people who hate gays....well.......hate them? WHY?

I mean WHY DO U CARE?

well, personally I dont care if they hate me or not, because I dont really care for that type myself. My concern only lies in them leaving me alone, not forcing their warped "morality" on me, and not denying me the rights due to me as a tax paying, productive citizen. Otherwise, I just dont really care.
 
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new coup for you said:
how many gays have broken into your and forced you to watch them **** lately?

oh didnt you know thats all our hobby? :lol:
 
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You Homosexual Agenda foot soldiers crack me up.....what is funny is I expose your agenda tactics verbatim,even posting your tactic script, and you are such lemmings, you don't care, you revert right back to the Scripted Agenda....

lets see....

claim you're a victim, yep, Homosexual Agenda tactic
claim it is genetic, yep, Homosexual Agenda tactic
claim you want equality, yep, Homosexual Agenda tactic

As to the Homosexual Agenda foot soldier who claimed homosexuals don't force thigns on anyone, you're a total and complete liar. Tell that to the mayor of the small town in Canada who the Homosexual Agenda foot soldier feaks sued becuase he refused to declare "gay pride" month....or when Homosexual agenda foot soldiers tried to indoctrinate little kids via "Project X in the LA Unfied School District, or Fistgate and Fistgate 2 in Massachusetts..or all the anti-heterosexual, anti-Christian free speech infringing laws you try to pass trying to make it illegal to voice opposition to The Homosexual Agenda all under the guise of "hate speech laws".
 
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jallman said:
well, personally I dont care if they hate me or not, because I dont really care for that type myself. My concern only lies in them leaving me alone, not forcing their warped "morality" on me, and not denying me the rights due to me as a tax paying, productive citizen. Otherwise, I just dont really care.

Gays do not bother me. Gay pride bothers me. The fact that anybody would feel it is necessary to profess their pride in their sexuality perplexes me. I can understand wanting to belong to a group for a sense of solidarity, and support, but why would anybody want to parade their sexuality?

Sorry, kind of off the subject. Just something that always puzzled me. If any of these (gay-pride) homosexuals could answer why they have such an intense pride of their sexuality, it would be greatly appreciated.

As for gay marriage, I'm with the liberals on this one. The institution of marriage has become a joke. If we will allow "short-term" marriages, and weddings involving mail-order brides, why not allow two men to wed. These certainly are no better for the "institution" of marriage.
 
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Duke said:
IT HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN PROVEN THAT HUMAN BEINGS ARE BORN GAY AND THEY ARE BIOLOGICALLY GAY, SO THEY AREN'T CURSED BY THE DEVIL AND JESUS CAN'T SAVE THEM!!! So I guess that means that you Catholics out there are wrong once again. Maybe your God was wrong.


Duke

Please cite a website in which this you validate this crazy theory of yours. Degenerates (aka gays) are not BORN gay. They choose the deviant sexual lifestyle that they live. If they didn't want to be sent to hell by God maybe they should stop leading such an evil lifestyle.

Gays aren't cursed by the Devil, they are just being suddiced by him.

P.S: My god is/was right.
 
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what is evil about it? who do they hurt? if it's a crime it's a victimless one.

i really think the first step towards tolerance is people meeting gay people. if you knew gay people and had gay freinds you wouldnt think these things.
 
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mistermain said:
Gays do not bother me. Gay pride bothers me. The fact that anybody would feel it is necessary to profess their pride in their sexuality perplexes me. I can understand wanting to belong to a group for a sense of solidarity, and support, but why would anybody want to parade their sexuality?

Sorry, kind of off the subject. Just something that always puzzled me. If any of these (gay-pride) homosexuals could answer why they have such an intense pride of their sexuality, it would be greatly appreciated.

As for gay marriage, I'm with the liberals on this one. The institution of marriage has become a joke. If we will allow "short-term" marriages, and weddings involving mail-order brides, why not allow two men to wed. These certainly are no better for the "institution" of marriage.

Ok, here is where I lose my membership card and long with it, my lifetime discount at Pottery Barn. Are you ready for this?

I totally agree with you about the gay pride issue. Especially the pride parades. They are sickening and disturbing. I see nothing to show pride in a bunch of half naked porn stars on a pink float, followed by dykes on bikes, and led by a bunch of 6ft men in prom dresses and tiaras on their dolly parton aquanet laden wigs. And let me not even go into the crowd watching the parade...actually let me. The only time I ever feel any shame over my sexuality is when I see a pride parade and the mothers having to avert their children's eyes while the trashiest elements of our community simulate sex acts with ridiculously large objects in some obscene charade. And meanwhile, the stench of dried astroglide permeates the drugged out, meth mushed out circuit boys who just wandered out into the light from their orgy parties long enough to see the parade before going right back to whatever lascivious puddle they crawled out of for "the highlight of pride week." It is the greasy underbelly of the gay community that represents nothing most of us are about.

And guess what the media always chooses to depict...you got it...the sensational ratings that this produces when the "truth" about gay life is exposed. It makes me sick.
 
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ILikeDubyah said:
"The legal union of a MAN and a WOMAN" - Direct from dictionary.com

By allowing gay "marriage" you would change the definition & meaning of the word "marriage" itself. Gay "Marriage" is impossible....

Yep. Because http://www.dictionary.com is the crux of modern politics. :2razz:

Marriage has already changed over the centuries. In the days of the Bible, polygamy was permitted. Divorce has only been allowed since the Reformation and only been widely acceptable since the beginning of the 20th Century - around the same time that arranged marriages amongst the wealthy in Western society fell out of vogue. Civil unions have only comparitively recently been acceptable, as well - beforehand, a couple had to be married in a religious setting.

Marriage has not always been a voluntary union between one man and one woman, therefore to say that permitting gay marriage would be the first change to the meaning of marriage is false.
 
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Obras said:
Please cite a website in which this you validate this crazy theory of yours. Degenerates (aka gays) are not BORN gay. They choose the deviant sexual lifestyle that they live. If they didn't want to be sent to hell by God maybe they should stop leading such an evil lifestyle.

Gays aren't cursed by the Devil, they are just being suddiced by him.

P.S: My god is/was right.

Some people can "become" gay. Molestation is a common precursor to homosexuality (probably due the intense psychological trauma). Still, how do you account for the people who have no history of being sexually abused. People like my wife's uncle who acted feminine at a very early age. He has a physical and mental attraction to men, just as you and I have towards members of the opposite sex. I am Christian, and conservative, but I refuse to believe these people are inherintly evil, or being subdued by the Devil.
 
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mistermain said:
Some people can "become" gay. Molestation is a common precursor to homosexuality (probably due the intense psychological trauma). Still, how do you account for the people who have no history of being sexually abused. People like my wife's uncle who acted feminine at a very early age. He has a physical and mental attraction to men, just as you and I have towards members of the opposite sex. I am Christian, and conservative, but I refuse to believe these people are inherintly evil, or being subdued by the Devil.

I don't know a single gay man or woman (and I know many) who just woke up one day and decided "Right! I think I'll be gay."

Being homosexual is probably just like left-handedness. You can have a genetic predisposition towards one way or the other, and something in the early stages of development (in the womb, infancy, who knows?) will influence whatever you end up being in terms of handedness/sexuality.
 
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IT HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN PROVEN THAT HUMAN BEINGS ARE BORN GAY AND THEY ARE BIOLOGICALLY GAY, SO THEY AREN'T CURSED BY THE DEVIL AND JESUS CAN'T SAVE THEM!!! So I guess that means that you Catholics out there are wrong once again. Maybe your God was wrong.

Do you have evidence that people are born gay or did some pro-gay scienctist or group tell this?Amazing how everyone took the word of the american psycological institute that homosexuality is not a mental disorder when the orginization itself is filled with homosexuals.Beleaving some pro-gay group or scientist is like beleaving the tobbacco company when they used say that cigarettes are not harmful.
 
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vergiss said:
I don't know a single gay man or woman (and I know many) who just woke up one day and decided "Right! I think I'll be gay."

That's not what I said. I specifically said that molestation can lead to some people taking on "alternative" lifestyles. Once again, please read carefully before you make smartass comments, or try to insult.
 
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jamesrage said:
Do you have evidence that people are born gay or did some pro-gay scienctist or group tell this?Amazing how everyone took the word of the american psycological institute that homosexuality is not a mental disorder when the orginization itself is filled with homosexuals.Beleaving some pro-gay group or scientist is like beleaving the tobbacco company when they used say that cigarettes are not harmful.

Show me a source that says the API is full of homosexuals. Just one...

:waiting: for this :bs
 
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Jallman, don't be an idiot......everyone who pays attention and who isn't a Homosexual Agenda foot soldier is aware of the scheming homosexuals engaged in to get the APA to drop homosexuality from its list of disorders.....the homosexuals didn't stop there...now they have gotten the APA to state that pedophile sex isn't bad for the children.

Go look this stuff up yourself and do your own reseach instead of trying to get your heterosexual opposition to waste their time proving what is common knowledge amongst anyone who knows the APA.
 
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vergiss said:
Yep. Because http://www.dictionary.com is the crux of modern politics. :2razz:

Marriage has already changed over the centuries. In the days of the Bible, polygamy was permitted. Divorce has only been allowed since the Reformation and only been widely acceptable since the beginning of the 20th Century - around the same time that arranged marriages amongst the wealthy in Western society fell out of vogue. Civil unions have only comparitively recently been acceptable, as well - beforehand, a couple had to be married in a religious setting.

Marriage has not always been a voluntary union between one man and one woman, therefore to say that permitting gay marriage would be the first change to the meaning of marriage is false.

Like I pointed out to ILikeDubyah, he only used part of the definition.

If you look at his own source for the definition of marriage, it specifically includes same-sex marriage.

"1. a. The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.
b. The state of being married; wedlock.
c. A common-law marriage.
d. A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage."
 
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My source on the born-gay topic is Time Magazine.


Duke
 
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Duke said:
My source on the born-gay topic is Time Magazine.


Duke

Who is going to believe you if you say your source is a liberal biased magazine and then you don't even name the article or issue number?
 
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jamesrage said:
Do you have evidence that people are born gay or did some pro-gay scienctist or group tell this?Amazing how everyone took the word of the american psycological institute that homosexuality is not a mental disorder when the orginization itself is filled with homosexuals.Beleaving some pro-gay group or scientist is like beleaving the tobbacco company when they used say that cigarettes are not harmful.

Many right-wing organisations tell us that heterosexuality is the only normal behaviour. And these organisations are full of heterosexuals.

That's a dumb argument isn't it? As dumb as yours, in fact.

Sorry, Mr Rage, but you have failed to make an intelligent point.
 
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Obras said:
Who is going to believe you if you say your source is a liberal biased magazine and then you don't even name the article or issue number?


If you really care about the truth, you would just go to time.com and find out. And if you think that Time Magazine "liberal biased" then you must be high or insane.


Duke
 
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Duke, part of citing a source, if the source is a magazine, is supplying which issue it is and the article name.
 
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I tried looking on the website, but the arcticle is too recent. I will look on google for it.


Duke
 
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mistermain said:
That's not what I said. I specifically said that molestation can lead to some people taking on "alternative" lifestyles. Once again, please read carefully before you make smartass comments, or try to insult.

Sheesh, enough with the paranoia. :roll: My post was more in reference to what Obras said.

jamesrage said:
Do you have evidence that people are born gay or did some pro-gay scienctist or group tell this?Amazing how everyone took the word of the american psycological institute that homosexuality is not a mental disorder when the orginization itself is filled with homosexuals.Beleaving some pro-gay group or scientist is like beleaving the tobbacco company when they used say that cigarettes are not harmful.

Riiiiiiiight. How, pray tell, do you intend to prove that the majority of American psychologists are gay? Or is it more the fact that you don't like their scientific research, therefore have decided they must be homosexual? :lol:

I don't like you much, either. OMG! YOU'RE GAY!
 
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For everyone who thinks that you are not born gay, I have a question for you:

Could you change your sexual preference? In other words, could you choose to be gay? If it truly is a choice, then the only possible answer is yes.
 
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