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WHAT!?
I couldnt possibly disagree more, IMO theres no logic to defend that at all. Your marriage is absolutely NONE OF MY BUSINESS and mine is none of yours.
Also to the two lonely oppressors on this board that thanked you for your post, it seems its a bit of a contradiction to me. Since you would obviously disagree with the term "everyone" dont you mean everyone BUT gays
This would be true if our families existed in isolation, but they do not. We have neighbors, and the way we conduct our lives affects those neighbors. Our children must grow up with their children, and when they are grown, they will take their spouses from among their neighbors. We are all bound together by civilization, and what affects one of us affects all of us.
It would appear that your dog is barking up the wrong tree. I think homosexuals should be allowed and encouraged to marry. What I reject is the notion that marriage is about rights, and that we, as the State, have no business in imposing limitations on couples who wish to marry. Too many people treat marriage as trivial, and I am compelled to speak out against the further degradation of our society and its institutions by people who have adopted the poisonous and selfish doctrine that what individuals do in the privacy of their own homes has no effect on the greater society.
I don't know what country you live in, but such things happen at least weekly in this country, and most likely daily, or even hourly.so basically with this train of thought you "seem" to be implying all my buisness is your buisnness?
Thank god this is not the country we live in because as peacful as I am if a person thought this way and came poking around my buisness, especially family and property they would learn real quick that its a bad move to do so and realize that its none od their buisness, the same way im sure you'd explain to me if came poking in youe buisness and proclaimed that since your may neightbor it matters and is my buisness. Im guessing you teach me fast its none of my concern what you are up to.
sorry not buying this because it way to much of a blanket statment that basically throws privacy and freedoms out the window, like i said theres no logic to support this stand on this general level
I don't know what country you live in, but such things happen at least weekly in this country, and most likely daily, or even hourly.
That's what our current governmental system exists to do.
Direct and control our lives.
Not in the more invasive and direct manner that is obvious (or not in most cases, that is), but still...
so basically with this train of thought you "seem" to be implying all my buisness is your buisnness?
Everyone's business is the State's business. The State is the foundation of an orderly society, and it is the role of the State to ensure the moral order of the People.
It's more that I consider the current levels of regulation and control farto high.I live in THIS country and sorry nobody pokes around in my business, not my marriage not my kids, not my property unless I’m breaking the law, I have no clue what you are talking about unless you are referring to meaningless things like taxes, census, credit reports
But my bedroom and lifestyle and marriage is none of your business
I’m talking reality, not needed government or big brother is watching you conspiracies.
Like I said you post is a perfect example of why I don’t buy it because you are talking about a BLANKET statement which in reality does not apply, especially not to marriage, my kids, my house and my bedroom
It's more that I consider the current levels of regulation and control farto high.
Not that I have any “government or big brother is watching you conspiracies”.
And I while I completely agree with your statement: "my bedroom and lifestyle and marriage is none of your business", I think you are incorrect in stating that “nobody pokes around in my business”.
That is the words of Jesus, not me.
That pretty much summarizes the entire religious attitude. Its like saying, "hey don't look at me, that's what the carpenter with the beard and long hair said."
This entire thread becomes more and more hilarious with each passing day.
so which is it, that state or your buisness?
is it the stats dog in the game or your dog
Im sorry I missed the part where I said that goverment cant be in your buisness?
We are the State. The moral order that the State is charged with upholding is our moral order.
That pretty much summarizes the entire religious attitude. Its like saying, "hey don't look at me, that's what the carpenter with the beard and long hair said."
This entire thread becomes more and more hilarious with each passing day.
I don't understand, are you speaking from the point of view of the people (who vote) or the actual government? This feels like a riddle.We are the State. The moral order that the State is charged with upholding is our moral order.
I don't understand, are you speaking from the point of view of the people (who vote) or the actual government? This feels like a riddle.
Because if its from the government's point of view it sounds like dictatorship.
I don't understand, are you speaking from the point of view of the people (who vote) or the actual government? This feels like a riddle.
Because if its from the government's point of view it sounds like dictatorship.
No. He is saying the people are the state. We as the people charge the state with upholding our morals and laws to enforce those moral standards.
By electing officials to represent us in government, we the people are the sate.
The state must also uphold the rights of minorities. If the "moral' order of the majority wants to infringe on those rights, then the state must step in, and intervene.
PS Down with moral majority!!!
The state must also uphold the rights of minorities. If the "moral' order of the majority wants to infringe on those rights, then the state must step in, and intervene.
so hypocritical, forget your fellow americans they mean nothing
I agree. That does not mean it will necessarily go your way, or in a direction you like. :2razz:
That is so funny considering the majority are not in favor of gay marriage.
So by your own standards, we can safely say you don't care about your fellow Americans. :lol:
It should go the way of equal rights, thats the only moral this should be judge upon.
The real world does not work that way because morals are subjective.
Not really, because you aren't being denied anything.
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