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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

  • No

    Votes: 99 79.2%
  • Yes, explain

    Votes: 26 20.8%

  • Total voters
    125
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In response to both SM and CC

 
My evidence is the Bible, still the hottest selling book in the world.

That was very easy.

Yeah, about as easy as Creationism 101 at Weeping Shepherd Baptist High School, where the correct answer to every question on the test is "Cuz the bible sez so" or else "Goddidit".

:roll:
 
My evidence is the Bible, still the hottest selling book in the world.

That was very easy.

Yeah? Well, my evidence is The writings of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Oh, sorry, it has to be a best seller? OK, then my source is Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone, which has gay characters living peacefully and happily.

Sorry, I should be ignoring you but you're just too damn easy of a target!
 

I agree but since i havent tried to push my morals has fact the point is moot.
I have only argued its discrimination which it is and my morals have nothing to do with that. In america i clealry understand my morals are not yours nor would i force mine on you and my morals would never be the basis or argument and never were.
 

ignored again due to off topic trolling and repeating yourself over and over again but not changing reality and the facts. Already explained to you as to way its CLEARLY off topic and Im dont has others are actually trying to debate the OP.

Thanks take care, good day sir
 
Yeah, about as easy as Creationism 101 at Weeping Shepherd Baptist High School, where the correct answer to every question on the test is "Cuz the bible sez so" or else "Goddidit".

:roll:

Did you graduate from there?
 
Subjectivist fallacy.

http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Subjectivist_fallacy/


bzzt. You misapplied the fallacy.
 
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Queers can live together happily without lying to children. Try sticking to the argument.
 
So about gay marriage in Belgium

First, in the Civil Code of 1804, mariage was
- "indissoluble" (once you got married, it was until you died).
- it was not a private matter, it was the matter of the society (you still get married in front of a judge, and now if you divorce it is also done by a judge)
- it was hierarchical: the man leads, the wife obeys and has no right
- don't even think about sex if you're not married

However, during the 60's, there was the "individualist revolution", and marriage
- was not eternal anymore, it became much more easy to get divorced, and today it is a right
- became a private matter
- became egalitarian, men and women are equal
- dignity became central: now a husband can be sued for rape on his wife
- homosexual marriage became acceptable

Basically, marriage used to be based on transmission of patrimony and feeding/educating kids, today it is based on love, being married is "being free together". The core values of this "privatization" of marriage were freedom and equality.

When it legalized gay marriage, our government said:

"The logic that underlied that one of the necessary conditions for marriage was to have two people from different sex, came from the idea that the goal of marriage was procreation. Since people of the same sex are not able to procreate, both the doctrine and the jurisprudence used to consider that the spouses had to be from different sex.

However, today, this explanation is obsolete. Indeed, children are conceived and born both in and outside marriages, and many wed couples do not consider that procreation is an essential purpose of their marriage. In our society, marriage is felt as a relation between two persons whose main purpose is the creation of a lasting "life community". Marriage offers the two partners the possibility to affirm their relation and their feelings in broad daylight.

Mentalities having evolved - marriage today being used to exteriorize and to affirm a relation, and has lost its procreative nature - there is no reason anymore not to let people of the same sex get married.


They also said that giving the right of marriage to gay people was also a way to establish a kind of symbolic equality between heterosexuals and homosexuals.
 
Queers can live together happily without lying to children. Try sticking to the argument.

OK, so your argument is that the Bible is never wrong? And since it's in the Bible, you think it should be the law of the land?

The Bible also allows for slavery. It says that if you plant two crops next to each other, it's a crime. It's OK to sell your daughter, and if your kids talk back, you are allowed to stone them to death.

So! How's your campaign in favor of slavery going? I mean, obviously, since the Bible cannot be wrong, you must support that. Otherwise, you'd be an absolute hypocrite, wouldn't you?
 
My evidence is the Bible, still the hottest selling book in the world.

That was very easy.

This is both the ciricular resoning and appeal to popularity logical fallacy. The Bible is not evidence that your morals are fact, you cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible is fact, and the Bibile's popularity is meaningless in proving facts.

You keep trying and you keep failing. Where are those links to research that prove your position? :lol:
 

Maybe God was just having a bad hair day or PMSing when she dictated those parts.
I certainly hope SouthernMan takes the lobster prohibition seriously, though.
I have it on good authority that God really meant that part.
Also the part about how it's an abomination if men trim the corners of their beards.
 
Morality is not scientific. It doesn't have to be.

Excellent. Which is why you can neither prove it as factual, nor show evidence that it is better than mine or any one elses. You just proved moral relativity.

Self-pwnage at it's best.
 
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