Gary Hart explains it all (1 Viewer)

[cnredd]

Gary Hart was on the Colbert Report this week...

Possibly one of the most disturbing comments ever from the Left...And this is what I mean by "The Left"...

Gary Hart is to the Left of most Democrats in Congress...He thinks some of them are cowards because they didn't support Feingold in censuring or for voting for the Patriot Act....So we know where he stands...

Gotta check out the interview...Here's a transcript, but it doesn't do it justice...

It's a 6:28 video clip, but the part I'm referring to is what happens with approx. 1:40 left in the interview...

Hart:Actually, it was the Clinton people that got our Commision to believe that there was a terrorist threat.
Colbert:Why didn't they do anything about it?
Hart:Well, they bombed some factories in the Sudan they didn't need to...(pause)...So they weren't doing nothing.

What really annoyed me was that Colbert, who is absolutely hysterical and nails people to the wall when someone says something as stupid as this....kept his mouth shut and intentionally paused....THEN he changed topics altogether as if Hart didn't say anything...

Here is the link for the video...

As stated, you gotta see the video for it to make more sense...The crowd reaction, Gary Hart laughing at himself, and Colbert with his head down says everything...

 

[millsy]

You know Colbert is a liberal right?

If you think the Clinton administration came off as bad in that interview you have your "red" colored glasses on dude.

Gary Hart said (I can't quote directly but): It was the Clinton administration that convinced us that terrorism was a real threat.

The Bush administration didn't listen to us when we tried to convince them.

I also like that he reminded us that it was EIGHT years between international terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. Terrorist don't attack at the first possible chance. Don't let the last 5 years fool you into thinking that our actions are keeping them at bay.

 

[cnredd]

You know Colbert is a liberal right?

I see the post clearly flew over your head...

If you think the Clinton administration came off as bad in that interview you have your "red" colored glasses on dude.

That's exactly what I was referring to...He didn't come off as bad...

Hart just said the Clinton administration bombed a factory that they didn't even need to...and THEN submitted that as an example of "so they weren't doing nothing."

Unneedlessly bombing a factory and killing dozens of people is an example of combating terrorism?!?!?...You gotta be kidding me!!

The point I was throwing out is that that is EXACTLY where Colbert should've used one of his witty comments to attack that incredibly stupid rationale...He does it all day and night, but when when it comes to the Liberal side of things?...

Mums the word, right Colbert?...Your moral compass trumped your humor...:roll:

Gary Hart said (I can't quote directly but): It was the Clinton administration that convinced us that terrorism was a real threat.

The Bush administration didn't listen to us when we tried to convince them.

Think about that for a second...

If the Clinton Administration KNEW what the biggest threat was, then why did they leave it in the hands of the next guy?...Why pass the buck?

Clinton to Bush - "By the way, I left our foreign policy in shambles and did nothing for national security...

...have fun!...I'm gonna go make some speeches."...:2wave:

If a President LEFT the biggest problem for the next President, that's an abomination and an insult to the country...How dare someone just leave it at the lap of someone else and tell them to fix it...How DARE!

I also like that he reminded us that it was EIGHT years between international terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. Terrorist don't attack at the first possible chance. Don't let the last 5 years fool you into thinking that our actions are keeping them at bay.

Cole, embassies, fatwas...

They don't count in your world...Not big enough to make you wake up is it?...

It sure wasn't enough for "He Whom Shall Not Be Blamed"...

The fact that Hart admitted as such by making that absurd comment shows it...and the fact that Colbert let it slide goes against everything he does when it's the other side of the aisle in question...

When there's a pinhole of light in the Conservative wall, Colbert takes advantage and is there to rip it open...When the wall has a major crack in it like Hart's comments, Colbert pretended it didn't even exist...

Partisan hack...funny partisan hack...but "partisan hack" nonetheless...

 

[millsy]

Unneedlessly bombing a factory and killing dozens of people is an example of combating terrorism?!?!?...You gotta be kidding me!!

That's exactly what Hart was saying. He wasn't serious in saying that "Clinton WAS doing something, he bombed.............." he was saying that "Clinton wasn't doing NEARLY enough, in fact he needlessly bombed........"

Colbert didn't wuss out at all. The guest just got the line. No line could have beaten that.

Cole, embassies, fatwas...

They don't count in your world...Not big enough to make you wake up is it?...

Come on. If you're counting those than how can you possibly say we've gone 4 years without terrorist attack? I mean seriously..........




And if you really think that Clinton passed the buck to Bush you again have those glasses on. Did Clinton do enough, no he didn't. But at least he took the threat seriously. And, Instead of taking what Clinton had started and expanding on it, Bush ignored everything and dropped the ball.

 

[cnredd]

That's exactly what Hart was saying. He wasn't serious in saying that "Clinton WAS doing something, he bombed.............." he was saying that "Clinton wasn't doing NEARLY enough, in fact he needlessly bombed........"

Noooo....

He was DEAD serious...That's why it came out so bad...That's what made everybody laugh...Why do you think Hart ended up laughing at himself?...Because it came out wrong...If he was being sooooo facetious, it wouldn't have been funny...at all...

Read the sentence before that again...

Hart:Actually, it was the Clinton people that got our Commision to believe that there was a terrorist threat.

Now why on earth would he say that?...Or you implying that Hart just said Clinton told the Commision there was a threat but then right afterward said he didn't do, as you would say, "NEARLY enough"?...

If that's true, then you should be crying for Clinton's treasonous head...

Colbert didn't wuss out at all. The guest just got the line. No line could have beaten that. .

A line that you say PURPOSELY implicates Clinton...which is false...It came out wrong, and Colbert let it slide...The video is there for anyone to judge for themselves...

Come on. If you're counting those than how can you possibly say we've gone 4 years without terrorist attack? I mean seriously...........

Funny...

SHOW ME WHERE I'VE SAID THIS...SHOW ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are referring to attacks on US citizens, miltary or not, elsewhere...and I 100% agrre with you...here's difference...

Bush is retaliating...Clinton smiled and ignored it...What a guy...:roll:

And if you really think that Clinton passed the buck to Bush you again have those glasses on. Did Clinton do enough, no he didn't. But at least he took the threat seriously.

By doing what?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Wow!...I find it hard to believe you just wrote that...it couldn't have been with a straight face...

And, Instead of taking what Clinton had started and expanding on it, Bush ignored everything and dropped the ball.

A nice little off-topic reference considering the discussion was about what Hart said on the issue of Clinton, but I'll allow it with this very short and precise response...

"Bush ignored everything and dropped the ball?"...When did I say otherwise?...

I didn't...you're inclusion of Bush into the discussion is now irrelevant...

Do you see how you just debated this topic?...By including two aspects which I've never declared?...

That's how you lose credibility quick...

 

[Thorgasm]

Let me get this straight. There is a debate about a show, which is political satire, being biased. Cnredd, may I suggest that you not watch Comedy Central for your news/opinion pieces.

Clinton was going to get a blank check to invade a country from the Republican congress that was impeaching him? What do you think Clinton should have done? Let's say that he found a way to prosecute Bin Laden. Would that have changed the radical Muslims view of the west? Bin Laden wouldn't be anything without an audience. Or should Clinton have pulled all of our troops out of the middle-east?

Oh yeah, Weekend Update on SNL is going to disappoint you as well.

 

[millsy]

I'll leave the comedy, you and I see it differently and that's fine.

But excuse me

Do you see how you just debated this topic?...By including two aspects which I've never declared?...

That's how you lose credibility quick...

You're questioning my credibility. That is incredibally insulting and disgusting.

Funny...

SHOW ME WHERE I'VE SAID THIS...SHOW ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I said

I also like that he reminded us that it was EIGHT years between international terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. Terrorist don't attack at the first possible chance. Don't let the last 5 years fool you into thinking that our actions are keeping them at bay.

to which you responded

Cole, embassies, fatwas...

They don't count in your world...Not big enough to make you wake up is it?...

Not big enough to make you wake up??

And you accuse me lowball tactics??

When you say that it wasn't 8 years without terrorist attack before 9/11 because of the "Cole, embassies, fatwas," but say nothing of the terrorist attacks since 9/11, than it is PERFECTLY reasonable for me to question you on this.

The second time you accuse me of playing dirty, was a direct rebutal to this

Think about that for a second...

If the Clinton Administration KNEW what the biggest threat was, then why did they leave it in the hands of the next guy?...Why pass the buck?

Clinton to Bush - "By the way, I left our foreign policy in shambles and did nothing for national security...

...have fun!...I'm gonna go make some speeches."...

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Again, my statement

Did Clinton do enough, no he didn't. But at least he took the threat seriously. And, Instead of taking what Clinton had started and expanding on it, Bush ignored everything and dropped the ball.

does not make any claim about what you may or may not have said, and argues accurately you assertion from the previous post.

Do you see how you just debated this topic?...By including two aspects which I've never declared?...

That's how you lose credibility quick...

That is a nasty cheap shot that was unwarranted and unprovoked.

 

[tecoyah]

If a President LEFT the biggest problem for the next President, that's an abomination and an insult to the country...How dare someone just leave it at the lap of someone else and tell them to fix it...How DARE!

It will be interesting to see what Bush leaves to whoever is crazy enough to take on the ...uh...situations he has created. I remember well the opposition to Clinton doing ANYTHING after Bosnia (actually that was opposed down party lines as well), making it damn hard for him to accomplish even cruise missle launches after we were attacked, Hell he was beat up over doing even that.
Do you really think any president facing such a wall could have arbitrarily attacked an orginization such as AlQueida, without losing any credibility in the eyes of the American People, the congress, and the world community of the time? Only after 9/11 occured, was the support for an attack clear, and we rightfully removed the Taliban from power in Afganistan. Clinton had neither the clout, nor the reasoning/evidence to mount a compelling case to congress for a war on terror, as the power in our govenment was somewhat equalized during his tenure in the white house.
Dont get me wrong....I dont like Clinton. But if you actually think Bush is a better representative for the American People.....we will simply have to disagree. Hes gonna leave a freakin' Disaster in his wake, and whoever has to pick up the pieces of this fiasco is in for a very tough time.