Galloway: Blair's death would be justified [changed title] (1 Viewer)

[Kandahar]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060526/ap_on_re_eu/britain_galloway


Is there anyone who still defends George Galloway's antics? Anyone?

 

[massive_attack]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

Is it possible you could get this more wrong ? Probably not.

" Maverick British politician George Galloway has claimed it would be "morally justified" for an assassin to target Prime Minister Tony Blair, but he said he was not advocating an attempt, according to a magazine interview published Friday.

Galloway was quoted as saying an attack on Blair that caused no other casualties would be a justifiable response to Britain's support for the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

"It would be entirely logical and explicable — and morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq as Blair did," the monthly GQ magazine quoted Galloway as saying.

However, if he knew anyone was planning such an attack, Galloway added, he would tell police. "

WOW.

Now doesn't that look very different than your " George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair " ...

 

[Pacridge]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

Is it possible you could get this more wrong ? Probably not.



WOW.

Now doesn't that look very different than your " George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair " ...

Wondered if any one else noticed that.

 

[PeteEU]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

can we call this :spin: and miss information?

 

[Deegan]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

He said it, we can all read between the lines, are you folks actually trying to justify this statement?:shock:

This man is just not very good at politics, and his brand of theatrics does not play well with the general public, nor should it. I suspect that this all stems from a very good press conference that he and Bush had recently, this is his counter argument, and it sucks actually.:roll:

 

[Pacridge]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

He said it, we can all read between the lines, are you folks actually trying to justify this statement?:shock:

This man is just not very good at politics, and his brand of theatrics does not play well with the general public, nor should it. I suspect that this all stems from a very good press conference that he and Bush had recently, this is his counter argument, and it sucks actually.:roll:

He said what? He certainly didn't threaten to kill Tony Blair.

 

[PeteEU]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

He said it, we can all read between the lines, are you folks actually trying to justify this statement?:shock:

This man is just not very good at politics, and his brand of theatrics does not play well with the general public, nor should it. I suspect that this all stems from a very good press conference that he and Bush had recently, this is his counter argument, and it sucks actually.:roll:

So now we are down to reading between lines and looking for codes?

Or are some people in the US still pissed at him for making a fool of thier congress?

 

[Deegan]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

He said what? He certainly didn't threaten to kill Tony Blair.

What he said was irresponsible, and exactly why he was given the pink slip from his own party. He suggested that killing Blair, and killing terrorists are the same, both justified, I don't really see why this is so difficult for folks to comprehend?

 

[Deegan]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

So now we are down to reading between lines and looking for codes?

Or are some people in the US still pissed at him for making a fool of thier congress?

LOL, when did this happen? Answer: It never did, not at all.:rofl

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

"It would be entirely logical and explicable — and morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq as Blair did,"

What he said was irresponsible, and exactly why he was given the pink slip from his own party. He suggested that killing Blair, and killing terrorists are the same, both justified, I don't really see why this is so difficult for folks to comprehend?

Deegan says terrorists are innnocent people. Film at eleven.

Further, Galloway said the assassination was the equivalent of ordering the deaths of innocents. I'm not sure how exactly this is anything like suggesting the assasination would be "justified." You must be using the word "justified" in one of its new, unusual meanings that applies to the killing of innocent folks.

FTR, before someone decides to go there, I don't care about Galloway or Blair or this broohaha. I just find the various 'interpretations' of the texts amusing.

 

[Deegan]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

Deegan says terrorists are innnocent people. Film at eleven.

Further, Galloway said the assassination was the equivalent of ordering the deaths of innocents. I'm not sure how exactly this is anything like suggesting the assasination would be "justified." You must be using the word "justified" in one of its new, unusual meanings that applies to the killing of innocent folks.

FTR, before someone decides to go there, I don't care about Galloway or Blair or this broohaha. I just find the various 'interpretations' of the texts amusing.

You can slurp up his every word if you like, that's your right, I on the other hand, can read between the lines. This man says we "targeted innocent civilians" I say we target terrorists, get it straight Moon, get it straight.

 

[Captain America]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

Reminds me of that goofball Pat Robertson. :roll:

 

[Kandahar]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

So now we are down to reading between lines and looking for codes?

Or are some people in the US still pissed at him for making a fool of thier congress?

Actually I'm pissed at him for being on Saddam Hussein's payroll.

I'm pissed at him for laundering Saddam's money and getting kickbacks in the oil-for-food scandal.

I'm pissed at him for starting a charity in the 1990s to help victims of the Iraq sanctions, then spending large amounts of the money on personal trips to the Middle East.

I'm pissed at him for travelling to Syria and saying on Syrian national television that the people are lucky to have Bashar Assad as a leader.

I'm pissed at him for being an avowed Marxist.

I'm pissed at him for claiming terrorists in Iraq were freedom fighters who were opposing American and British hegemony.

I'm pissed at him for going on al-Jazeera and saying the following: "Two of your beautiful daughters are in the hands of foreigners: Jerusalem and Baghdad. The foreigners are doing to your daughters as they will. The daughters are crying for help and the Arab world is silent. Some of them are collaborating with the rape of these two beautiful Arab daughters. Why? Because they are too weak and too corrupt to do anything about it."

I'm pissed at him because he's able to convince idiots to support him because "Derrrrr, Bush=bad, therefore Galloway=good."

And most recently, I'm pissed at him for advocating the murder of the prime minister of the United Kingdom.

 

[Deegan]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

Actually I'm pissed at him for being on Saddam Hussein's payroll.

I'm pissed at him for laundering Saddam's money and getting kickbacks in the oil-for-food scandal.

I'm pissed at him for starting a charity in the 1990s to help victims of the Iraq sanctions, then spending large amounts of the money on personal trips to the Middle East.

I'm pissed at him for travelling to Syria and saying on Syrian national television that the people are lucky to have Bashar Assad as a leader.

I'm pissed at him for being an avowed Marxist.

I'm pissed at him for claiming terrorists in Iraq were freedom fighters who were opposing American and British hegemony.

I'm pissed at him for going on al-Jazeera and saying the following: "Two of your beautiful daughters are in the hands of foreigners: Jerusalem and Baghdad,” he said. “The foreigners are doing to your daughters as they will. The daughters are crying for help and the Arab world is silent. Some of them are collaborating with the rape of these two beautiful Arab daughters. Why? Because they are too weak and too corrupt to do anything about it."

I'm pissed at him because he's able to convince idiots like you to support him because "Derrrrr, Bush=bad, therefore Galloway=good."

And most recently, I'm pissed at him for advocating the murder of the prime minister of the United Kingdom.

Yeah, that pretty much covers it for me, I would like to add that I am pissed, because he used our Senate floor, to advance his propaganda, and that we allowed it, but that about covers it for me.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

You can slurp up his every word if you like, that's your right, I on the other hand, can read between the lines. This man says we "targeted innocent civilians" I say we target terrorists, get it straight Moon, get it straight.

It seems you said he said that an assassination of Blair was the equivalent of killing terrorists.
However, it also seems that Galloway said no such thing. AFAICT, Galloway said that an assassination of Blair was akin to ordering the deaths of innocents. But, you know me, I'm always a nitpicker for things like thinking 'innocent people' does not equal 'terrorists.'

Carry on. We all know that the Galloway quote didn't actually say:

"It would be entirely logical and explicable — and morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq as Blair did."
​

It really said:

"Killing Blair, and killing terrorists are the same, both are justified"
​

The actual words that Galloway used were just to mask what he was really saying. Glad you were here top set us striaght about that. We might have gone by merely what he actually said instead if your very creative, bold and insightful interpretation.

Carry on.
You've made no mistake in your textual analysis.




And, ftr, I really don't give a roasted rat's *** about Galloway. I'm just amused at the wide variety of interpretations of what he said. It seems great there's variance from the actual text.

 

[Deegan]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

It seems you said he said that an assassination of Blair was the equivalent of killing terrorists.
However, it also seems that Galloway said no such thing. AFAICT, Galloway said that an assassination of Blair was akin to ordering the deaths of innocents. But, you know me, I'm always a nitpicker for things like thinking 'innocent people' does not equal 'terrorists.'

Carry on. We all know that the Galloway quote didn't actually say:

"It would be entirely logical and explicable — and morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq as Blair did."
​

It really said:

"Killing Blair, and killing terrorists are the same, both are justified"
​

The actual words that Galloway used were just to mask what he was really saying. Glad you were here top set us striaght about that. We might have gone by merely what he actually said instead if your very creative, bold and insightful interpretation.

Carry on.
You've made no mistake in your textual analysis.




And, ftr, I really don't give a roasted rat's *** about Galloway. I'm just amused at the wide variety of interpretations of what he said. It seems great there's variance from the actual text.

You don't care a "rats a**" about Mr. Galloway, but you will allow him the assumption that Blair did indeed "order the deaths of innocent civilians" or has war changed that much, that we can now somehow avoid that?

 

[Kandahar]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

Carry on. We all know that the Galloway quote didn't actually say:

"It would be entirely logical and explicable — and morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq as Blair did."
​

It really said:

"Killing Blair, and killing terrorists are the same, both are justified"​

Isn't it the default position of everyone to just assume that killing another person is equivalent to killing an innocent person? Do you honestly believe that Galloway was saying that Tony Blair was just an innocent person who should not be killed, given the filth that has come from his mouth in the past?

According to the article, he explicitly said that Blair's murder would be "justified."

If someone went on television and said that people would be perfectly justified killing YOU, but (wink-wink) they'd call the police if they knew of any such attempts, wouldn't YOU interpret it as a threat?

 

[massive_attack]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

LOL, when did this happen? Answer: It never did, not at all.:rofl

Oh oh ... you should see the video.

Try here

 

[Deegan]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

Oh oh ... you should see the video.

Try here

I watched it live, and he offered nothing but fluff, much like his "reality show" apperance! He refused to answer direct questions, and offered little, and if you call that "ownage" then I don't know what to tell you. I can't believe they allowed this bastard to use our Senate floor, as his personal diving board, but you live, and you learn I suspect, we were "owned" in that regard, and I still am angry about that!

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

Is it possible you could get this more wrong ? Probably not.



WOW.

Now doesn't that look very different than your " George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair " ...

Oh so he makes a cover up statement after the fact? And that negates his original statement how exactly?

 

[cherokee]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

The guy sounds like a Pat Roberson retard.....

Also from galloway...

Galloway spent three weeks last year starring on the reality TV show "Celebrity Big Brother" and was ridiculed for scenes in which he lapped up imaginary milk and purred like a cat.

Hmmmmm....

Last May, Galloway called a congressional subcommittee "the mother of all smoke screens," after he traveled to the United States to deny accusations he had profited from the U.N. oil-for-food program.

Britain: British Member of Parliament George Galloway has been accused of accepting oil voucher payments by both UN and U.S. Senate investigators but has denied accepting any such benefits. He has already won legal damages against a local newspaper that published such charges, but he remains under investigation by Britain's Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/10675/

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

You don't care a "rats a**" about Mr. Galloway, but you will allow him the assumption that Blair did indeed "order the deaths of innocent civilians" or has war changed that much, that we can now somehow avoid that?

As I stated previously, my comments are limited to the interesting interpretations of the text at hand.

 

[Kandahar]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

As I stated previously, my comments are limited to the interesting interpretations of the text at hand.

These "interesting interpretations" are obvious to anyone who has any knowledge of George Galloway, including the many other sleazy things he has said in the past. If he genuinely believes that killing Tony Blair would be akin to killing an innocent civilian, as you assert, why would he bother to make the comment at all? Isn't the idea that murder is unjustified the default belief of most people?

 

[massive_attack]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

Britain: British Member of Parliament George Galloway has been accused of accepting oil voucher payments by both UN and U.S. Senate investigators but has denied accepting any such benefits. He has already won legal damages against a local newspaper that published such charges, but he remains under investigation * by Britain's Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/10675/

* read : we don't have anything yet

Hasn't this been claimed about him like four times now ?

Has anyone proven anything ?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: George Galloway threatens to kill Tony Blair

These "interesting interpretations" are obvious to anyone who has any knowledge of George Galloway, including the many other sleazy things he has said in the past. If he genuinely believes that killing Tony Blair would be akin to killing an innocent civilian, as you assert, why would he bother to make the comment at all? Isn't the idea that murder is unjustified the default belief of most people?

I understand. It's not about what he actually said, it's about what you know he meant.