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G7 Fiasco, Trump Lied Again

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Oh for Pete's sake...

If everyone else comparable says it will be more and if you have all kinds of data from previous events that gives you an idea of how much it's supposed to cost and if Trump's quote is lower then you're saving money.

Seriously, if you go to Kroger and find a 2 liter bottle of Coke for 99 cents and then go to Piggly Wiggly and find a 2 liter bottle of coke for $1.09 which one costs less?
I agree that we can obtain verifiable quotes from comparable properties. That's not the issue.

So.. I'll ask one last time: Do you think trump will actually quote the actual cost and then show the world the actual invoices from the event? Based on how "transparent and truthful" trump has been in the past? To borrow your phrase: "Oh for Pete's sake!".
 

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They were targeting "at cost". As I stated....We will see in the end.
I disagree that "we will see in the end". As trump has done with everything else he and his administration will stonewall any disclosures of actual costs of the event.
 

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Will be interesting to compare and contrast the venue that is ultimately chosen over what could have been at Doral.

Wonder if Democrats in the media will think so too.....

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I disagree that "we will see in the end". As trump has done with everything else he and his administration will stonewall any disclosures of actual costs of the event.
We will see where G7 ends up and can make an educated guess. Unless you think public room costs are classified.
 

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The fact that the G7 at Doral was to be held at cost doesn't influence your statement above, which is exactly what I referred to.
Can you please tell us what the "at cost" is?

What is "cost" at Doral today exactly?
 

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Yes, because there is no other place in the entire US which could possibly serve to host the G7 other than Trump's Florida Golf Resort :roll:
Mulvaney said they looked at tons of places before deciding on Doral. How come they haven't released the list of all these other places? And why not just go to property #2 as a default?

Probably because he lied about that too. They only considered Doral, because it's what his highness wanted.
 

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That rant has absolutely nothing whatever to do with the subject here.

I honestly don't give a rat's ass about the G7. It can be held at a local Salvation Army auditorium for all I care.

It's just nuts to assume there's some corrupt ulterior motive on Trump's part before the facts are known, not the least of which is that it would be illegal for Trump to profit from it.

As I said, it took more mental effort for you to find the letters on your keyboard than you put into your post, I'm being kind in putting it that way.
It's not insane to assume a corrupt intent. He has displayed corrupt intent his entire life.

Only the blind would try and debate this with me.

Turn your ****ing filter off.
 

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I agree that we can obtain verifiable quotes from comparable properties. That's not the issue.

So.. I'll ask one last time: Do you think trump will actually quote the actual cost and then show the world the actual invoices from the event? Based on how "transparent and truthful" trump has been in the past? To borrow your phrase: "Oh for Pete's sake!".
I don't know whether he will or not and, frankly, I don't care. If it's done for at or below the rates we know about then it saves the taxpayers money and THAT is my primary concern.
 

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We will see where G7 ends up and can make an educated guess. Unless you think public room costs are classified.
As I keep saying: had trump personally hosted the event, the actual costs would not be disclosed.

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I don't know whether he will or not and, frankly, I don't care. If it's done for at or below the rates we know about then it saves the taxpayers money and THAT is my primary concern.
And after the event at trump's property is done, how will you verify what the cost to the taxpayer actually was?

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I don't know whether he will or not and, frankly, I don't care. If it's done for at or below the rates we know about then it saves the taxpayers money and THAT is my primary concern.
Let the record show, that you don't give a **** about law.
 

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Let the record show, that you don't give a **** about law.
I absolutely care about the law and I absolutely HATE when it's abused for the purpose of ****ing over someone you disagree with politically.
 

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Can you please tell us what the "at cost" is?

What is "cost" at Doral today exactly?
I truly don't know what the cost of operating such a place might be. I'm sure those who manage such places have a handle on it.

I am, however, fairly aware of how base costs are fluffed up, so I assume those who manage such places and events are very well aware of such things.
 

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I absolutely care about the law and I absolutely HATE when it's abused for the purpose of ****ing over someone you disagree with politically.
And yet, here you are telling those that disagree with you that the only thing you care about is saving money, but you can't tell us how much, because Trump never gave any figures.
So please spare me the indignation about your selective love of law. It comes across as awfully hollow.
 

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I truly don't know what the cost of operating such a place might be. I'm sure those who manage such places have a handle on it.

I am, however, fairly aware of how base costs are fluffed up, so I assume those who manage such places and events are very well aware of such things.
The Doral property has been grossly underbooked for years, and particularly the last few years. Having the G7 there enriches the Trumps as they need the rooms filled - cost or no cost.

Trump should never have suggested this. Ever. It was a terrible move and it was corrupt. He can't use his office to help his failing resort. You would say that if it was Obama or Biden or Schiff or anyone else, too.
 

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I absolutely care about the law and I absolutely HATE when it's abused for the purpose of ****ing over someone you disagree with politically.
So if you care about the Law then you don't care whether or not Trump saves money for the tax payers or not in this instance since by taking the contract for the G7 he would be committing a felony.
 

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It's not insane to assume a corrupt intent. He has displayed corrupt intent his entire life.

Only the blind would try and debate this with me.

Turn your ****ing filter off.
To assume corruption without cause truly is nuts.

You'd do well to debate this with your blind bretheran, as you say. If you truly believed corruption was certain, you should have allowed it to happen. It would be easy enough to prove. Then you'd actually have something of substance rather than whispers from Schiff's closeted meetings.
 

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I don't know whether he will or not and, frankly, I don't care. If it's done for at or below the rates we know about then it saves the taxpayers money and THAT is my primary concern.
He did it because he can't sell rooms in that property - especially in June. He can't use the power of his office to fill his hotels. Period.
 

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The Doral property has been grossly underbooked for years, and particularly the last few years. Having the G7 there enriches the Trumps as they need the rooms filled - cost or no cost.

Trump should never have suggested this. Ever. It was a terrible move and it was corrupt. He can't use his office to help his failing resort. You would say that if it was Obama or Biden or Schiff or anyone else, too.
The condition of Doral may not be financially great, but that doesn't mean a profit will be made. That's an assumption of illegality where none exists.

I agree that Trump's Doral decision was politically ham fisted. The response was predictable. That doesn't mean the response is justified, but he surely should've seen it coming.
 

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The condition of Doral may not be financially great, but that doesn't mean a profit will be made. That's an assumption of illegality where none exists.

I agree that Trump's Doral decision was politically ham fisted. The response was predictable. That doesn't mean the response is justified, but he surely should've seen it coming.
Nobody should care if Doral makes a profit. And people should care if the POTUS uses his power to fill up his own underperforming property. You disagree?

By the way, I never said it was illegal. It may be, but I didn't say it. It's disgusting. It's self-serving. It's wrong. Full stop - which is why most everyone in both parties objected to it.
 

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Nobody should care if Doral makes a profit. And people should care if the POTUS uses his power to fill up his own underperforming property. You disagree?

By the way, I never said it was illegal. It may be, but I didn't say it. It's disgusting. It's self-serving. It's wrong. Full stop - which is why most everyone in both parties objected to it.
I couldn't care less about the G7 or Doral. I don't think holding the G7 at Doral would save it from it's fate, whatever it might be.

I didn't say you did claim the affair is illegal. Many here have, and clearly without any evidence as the event has yet to occur.

Trump should've known better than to propose it. It seems he's realized his mistake.
 

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Trump has been a crook and a liar for years. This offer may be above board, appropriate, whatever. But he long ago cashed in his “benefit of the doubt” chips, sometime between Trump University and birtherism. Hence there is automatic suspicion or cynicism of his actions in this case. That the hotel/resort is not doing well adds fuel.

Some of his supporters not only would stay by him if he shot someone on Fifth Avenue as he bragged, they wouldn’t notice or care if he picked their pockets while doing so.
 

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Maybe this is a dumb question but if doing the G7 at Doral could be done for less money than doing it elsewhere (comparable elsewhere. I'm not talking about doing it at the Holiday Inn on the south side) would it still be a problem for you guys?
It is too bad they changed venues, since it is such a fabulous place. It would have been perfect since all the international dignitaries could each have the own private living structure. It would have also been good for the USA, to have your President, be somewhere where he can be a total host, for both work and pleasure. This is how you can make better deals.

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So if you care about the Law then you don't care whether or not Trump saves money for the tax payers or not in this instance since by taking the contract for the G7 he would be committing a felony.
Does Lutherf think when a casino gives you a free night it is simply goodwill?
 
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