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sounds to me like he's anti-anglo-saxon.
sounds to me like he's anti-anglo-saxon.
The anglo-saxons make only a small part of the English community.
We've already debated this in the English ethnicity thread spud, don't give me a headache. :2razz:
Amazing how the British press has no shame at all in twisting words.
He hasn't made the claim that "England is an anti-Semitic country".
He has said, and I translate it from Hebrew, that "Britain was always against us, was always extremely pro-Arab and anti-Israeli".
And has also said later on that "In Britain there is a saying that an anti-Semite is someone who hates the Jews more than necessary".
So yes, I completely agree with him, Britain is undoubtedly the most anti-Israeli country in Europe and it is indeed a home to many anti-Semites.
Feel free to refer me to the statistics concerning racism in general, the article already gives you info about the drastic rise in anti-Semitism.
It simply means Peres is correct. Britain is indeed extremely anti-Israeli and pro-Arab, it needs to be pointed out since so many Israeli officials are acting as if Britain has Israeli interests in its mind.
Weren't they on your side during the Suez crisis?
Aren't they the ones who allowed the creation of the Israeli state in 1948?
When did they do anything that was against Israeli interests?
Furthermore I fail to see when Israel has been "pro-European".
I note that the article didn't quote a single British Jewish politician or community leader agreeing with Peres.
The increase in anti-semitic crime certainly has occurred, along with all hate crimes, especially those against homosexuals and Moslems. Hate crime is an increasing problem, probably economically driven, but to suggest that it is limited to anti-semitism and that this is related to the actions of and attitude towards Israel is stretching the interpretation of currently available data.
At every given possibility.
The academic boycott on Israeli universities
the refusal to sell arms to Israel because they were used in the Gaza War, etc etc.
But mostly of course in their statements and their taken stance against Israel in the Israeli-Arab conflict.
Since when was Israel anti-European?
Israel has never taken an action against European interests.
Canadians and Americans do the same
They were absolutely right
Which anti-Israeli statements?
Israel has repeatedly refused the entrance of EU MEP in Palestine.
That's simply not true.
Perhaps you are speaking about specific faculty personnel from Canada and America who as individuals boycott Israel's institutions, but Britain's universities union has been enforcing a boycott on Israeli universities a few years ago.
They were absolutely anti-Israeli.
I won't list all of the anti-Israeli statements now.
Simply look at Cameron's recent statement where he was claiming that Gaza is a prison camp.
I don't see the difference, these were also British individuals, not a government boycott.
Then all of Europe is anti-Israeli since we did the same
That's not being anti-Israeli. He criticizes a policy (the blockade) that is seen as wrong by most of Europe. Most Europeans want the blockade to be lifted.
It's the British high-education faculties union, not an individual who happens to be a faculty member.
Still separate from UK Government.
If the British Government instigated a boycott, it would be over alot more than just education
I don't disagree, I gave this as an example of the extreme anti-Israeli sentiments in British society.
I have also given examples of anti-Israeli actions and statements taken and made by the British government.
I don't see where Cameron calling Gaza a prison camp = Anti Israel.
I guess I am one too if that is what it takes to get that label.
What is annoying is the remarks about the Muslim vote.
If Muslims had the same amount of power as some of the Israel lobbys in the US. UK foreign policy would be unrecognisable.
I'm not saying that anyone who'd state that automatically becomes an anti-Israeli.
This statement however comes from a clear and obvious anti-Israeli nature, taking to the belief that the Gaza Strip is a prison camp.
That's a view that is promoted by anti-Israelis.
Actually I believe Muslims have much more power in the UK than Jews are having in the US, if only due to the fact that Muslims make a much higher percentage of the British population than Jews make of the American one.
We're speaking here about pure and simple voting power, not about some conspiracy theory including a Muslim secret order that is manipulating the British government from the shadows.
So tainted by association for having a similar opinion on that one particular issue?
I really wish we British Muslims did have the immense power people believe we actually wield.
Jews have money in US which give them influence. Muslims do not have that.
Voting power is a real and active power.
Yes, that's the common assertion, those rich J00s are controlling and manipulating the American government using their money.
I have to admit that I'm more than surprised to see such an assertion coming from you.
And has also said later on that "In Britain there is a saying that an anti-Semite is someone who hates the Jews more than necessary".
Just out of interest has anyone from the UK ever heard that saying? I lived in England for over 20 years and I never heard it once and I haven't been able to find anyone who has.
Got lots of friends from the UK and I've never heard them even mention Jews to begin with, let alone heard them use that expression. I've heard much nastier things said by Swiss people, tho.
Yes, now you got me thinking I have heard a few, and the Germans and the French, sorry Paris, and the US and yes the Australians, but I have never heard that expression and yes, I have never heard anyone talking about Jews either. Muslims yes, Jews no.