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Further Texas Redistricting

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O’Rourke and Casar are sounding the alarm over new House maps for 2026, even worse than the current 25-13 Texas federal map.

I agree with those saying this is absolutely the biggest deal in USA politics today.

Caught Rep. Casar of Texas on Alex Witt re Abbott and Trump further violating the Voting Rights Act as well as Trump’s Epstein debauchery.
Casar has a good presentation.

NEWS: Greg Casar Elected as Congressional Progressive Caucus Chair

WASHINGTON – Today, Congressman Greg Casar (D-Texas) was elected as the Chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC), the highest-ranking leadership position for progressives in the U.S. House. CPC Chair Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) has reached her term limit.
casar.house.gov
 
And here’s one type of answer from the Dsmocratic party with plenty of others as well.

As Trump pushes Texas takeover in fight for House, Democrats plot their counterpunch | CNN Politics

House Democrats are actively preparing for political trench warfare against the GOP in next year’s midterm battle, with talks taking shape behind the scenes to mount a counterattack against President Donald Trump’s aggressive play in Texas that aims to cement GOP control of Washington for the...
amp.cnn.com
It looks to be sheer madness in larger states with trifectas.

State Partisan Composition

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The blighters are too clever for their own good. The more districts they squeeze out of redistricting, the more vulnerable they are to a catastrophic shift of opinion that turns all of them. The trial for the Democrats isn't one of half-percents and districts: either they let their party base into the party and have a movement where everybody gets a chance to work together to draw a blueprint for a new democratic Democratic movement, or else they continue to remain irrelevant - an autocratic Tweedledee to bookend Mr. Trump.
 
Gerrymandering by race is unconstitutional. Gerrymandering for partisan advantage is Constitutional. Unfortunately for America, there is no difference when the Republican Party is in charge.
 
mrjurrs said:
Gerrymandering by race is unconstitutional. Gerrymandering for partisan advantage is Constitutional. Unfortunately for America, there is no difference when the Republican Party is in charge.
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… as described by the current scotus, apartheid gerrymandering is legal.

Can you remember a time when redistricting was done during the decade.

Besides new maps due to court rulings against GOPs.
That was more last decade.
 
Linc said:
… as described by the current scotus, apartheid gerrymandering is legal.

Can you remember a time when redistricting was done during the decade.

Besides new maps due to court rulings against GOPs.
That was more last decade.
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Which case are you referring to?
Yes.
"119th Congress Five states (Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, New York, and North Carolina) delineated new boundaries for the 2024 election cycle. All other states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico had no changes to their congressional district boundaries from the 2022 cycle."

Congressional Districts

Guidance and access to information about congressional districts and congressional district products.
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Do you accept the 7-7 House in North Carolina being changed to 10-4 GOP in 2024, which gave the GOP the House?
Would you accept the new change on the table in Louisiana to give back a seat to the GOP’s?
I’m assuming you’re on board to take California from 42-10 Democrats to say 47-5 next year, as well as with other Dem states.
 
mrjurrs said:
Gerrymandering by race is unconstitutional. Gerrymandering for partisan advantage is Constitutional. Unfortunately for America, there is no difference when the Republican Party is in charge.
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Unfortunately for ; there is no difference between partisan advantage and racist/apartheid advantage.
 
Unclear on the point you are making.

In this environment yes. If R's are going to bend rules to their advantage, D's need to fight back. I'd rather do two things federally.

Amend or repeal the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 and pass a law requiring non-partisan redistricting method to be used nationally for all federal elections.
 
Linc said:
Unfortunately for ; there is no difference between partisan advantage and racist/apartheid advantage.
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How many D states are disadvantaging white voters to create majority-minority districts?
 
Whether redrawing districts more than once a decade is constitutional is an interesting question. Off the top of my head I can't think of anything in the Constitution that would forbid it (absent Congressional legislation), but I believe that any additional redistricting would have to use the data from the last census.
 
I believe the Constitution permits it the 10th amendment.
 
CLAX1911 said:
I believe the Constitution permits it the 10th amendment.
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The 10th Amendment is like the "eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" provision in the Law of Moses--a catch-all, to cover everything that the Constitution itself doesn't mention. But the Constitution does mention the census, and its central purpose, in Atricle I Section 2:

"Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included within this union, according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent term of ten years, in such manner as they shall by law direct."

Representatives are to be distributed according to a count of the population, and that count is to be made every ten years as Congress directs. Counts made outside those ten years by any method not authorized by Congress cannot be used for distributing the number of Representatives. The interesting question, not ruled on by the courts, is if drawing up districts is limited to the same data used to calculate how many representatives each state gets. Like I said, my gut instinct is yes, but I honestly haven't put much thought into it.
 
But it doesn't mention how dates must collect votes or how districts must be formed.
 
As someone pointed out earlier, gerrymandering is the problem. Neither party should be able to use them for an unfair advantage. It was wrong from the get go!
 
hecatmoggie said:
Democrats play the game of redistricting too - they just use illegal immigrants to boost numbers to justify it
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Illegal immigration accounts for about one extra congressional district in California, Texas, and Florida and one fewer congressional district in Minnesota, Alabama, and Ohio.

Overall it accounts for somewhere between 0 and 1 extra Democratic representative, beyond what there would be if there were no illegal immigration. If this is some sinister redistricting plot from Democrats, it isn't a very good one.
 
jmotivator said:
Democrats at the New York Times accidentally said the quiet part out loud yesterday that puts the OP in perspective...

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The Center for Politics came to the same conclusion:

As Redistricting War Looms, Republicans Have More Plausible Gerrymandering Targets than Democrats - Sabato's Crystal Ball

Texas Republicans planning to re-gerrymander their state could open the floodgates for more mid-decade redistricting, and Republicans have more obvious opportunities to draw new favorable districts than Democrats do.
centerforpolitics.org

 

Basically this is the Democrat's realization that their bag of tricks is now empty. While the next census will give blue states the ability to cut red districts out of their state, the reality in that those red districts and Republican house seats will be reconstituted in red states.
 
jmotivator said:
"Now that we are losing population and seats it's time to stop gerrymandering!" - Blue States
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I am from Canada, your finger pointing mean nothing to me. You have not explained why gerrymandering is a good thing.
 
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