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Ft. McMurray evacuated

Oddly, I went looking [after asserting it was not a problem] and could find nothing in the Canadian media. I suspect it's for two reasons,. one we would find it unseemly to talk about oil prices while people are hurting, and two the actual enormity of the problem. every time I get a handle on in my head, it changes. Last word was the active fire now covered an area the size of Mexico City and is moving east away from populations.


And thanks for the compliment. I know what you mean. It's easy to hide in the anonymity of the internet but I can't hide from me...

Yeah, it is amazing how big it is...I listen to the Canadian media daily (even before this fire) and I am also surprised at virtually zero mention of potential oil production problems.

I think it is for the reason you mentioned...it would be seen as in bad taste.

Funny, when I posted my original point about production, I was assuming at least someone would comment how morbid or innapropriate my comment was given all the non-lethal tragedy involved in the situation.

Actually, I think no one has died from the whole thing yet (I could be wrong)...that is truly amazing. A testament to the way everyone has handled the situation there.

Note: I just read how at least one person died in a car accident while fleeing the fire, unfortunately.
 
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Yeah, it is amazing how big it is...I listen to the Canadian media daily (even before this fire) and I am also surprised at virtually zero mention of potential oil production problems.

I think it is for the reason you mentioned...it would be seen as in bad taste.

Funny, when I posted my original point about production, I was assuming at least someone would comment how morbid or innapropriate my comment was given all the non-lethal tragedy involved in the situation.

Actually, I think no one has died from the whole thing yet (I could be wrong)...that is truly amazing. A testament to the way everyone has handled the situation there.

Note: I just read how at least one person died in a car accident while fleeing the fire, unfortunately.
2 people died, head on collision with a truck carrying creosote timbers, which promptly started another fire.
Heard on the news this am, that they are going door to door in Ft Mac and still finding people that stayed behind. No particular reasons were given as to why they did stay.
 
Yeah, it is amazing how big it is...I listen to the Canadian media daily (even before this fire) and I am also surprised at virtually zero mention of potential oil production problems.

I think it is for the reason you mentioned...it would be seen as in bad taste.

Funny, when I posted my original point about production, I was assuming at least someone would comment how morbid or innapropriate my comment was given all the non-lethal tragedy involved in the situation.

Actually, I think no one has died from the whole thing yet (I could be wrong)...that is truly amazing. A testament to the way everyone has handled the situation there.

Note: I just read how at least one person died in a car accident while fleeing the fire, unfortunately.

Numbers I heard for evac, over 88 K. An amazing job done on short notice and with conditions changing by the minutes.

Last year we had fires burning from BC east to Manitoba. It was noted then that many of these would still be burning when the snow fell, which from what I recall happened. Needed the snow pack to tamp down and extinguish fires that as we know have massive hot spots underground.
 
One reason for the shut down of oil facilities is the smoke. Makes for a significant health hazard.
 
Yeah, it is amazing how big it is...I listen to the Canadian media daily (even before this fire) and I am also surprised at virtually zero mention of potential oil production problems.

I think it is for the reason you mentioned...it would be seen as in bad taste.

Funny, when I posted my original point about production, I was assuming at least someone would comment how morbid or innapropriate my comment was given all the non-lethal tragedy involved in the situation.

Actually, I think no one has died from the whole thing yet (I could be wrong)...that is truly amazing. A testament to the way everyone has handled the situation there.

Note: I just read how at least one person died in a car accident while fleeing the fire, unfortunately.

The Globe and Mail has done some but not much reporting on the impact on production and is speculating on the price of oil. It is kind of a lower priority right now.
 
Yeah, it is amazing how big it is...I listen to the Canadian media daily (even before this fire) and I am also surprised at virtually zero mention of potential oil production problems.

I think it is for the reason you mentioned...it would be seen as in bad taste.

Funny, when I posted my original point about production, I was assuming at least someone would comment how morbid or innapropriate my comment was given all the non-lethal tragedy involved in the situation.

Actually, I think no one has died from the whole thing yet (I could be wrong)...that is truly amazing. A testament to the way everyone has handled the situation there.

Note: I just read how at least one person died in a car accident while fleeing the fire, unfortunately.



Even with that, it's still a miracle.

This is from a newspaper account that I can't find on line.

"As soon as my husband stepped on the accelerator the flames swept right up against my side of the car. The heat was like a wave...." "I don't know how fast we were going, but he had his foot all the way to the floor, we were certainly over 100 [kph] and the fire was leaping ahead of us."

I'd be cleaning my underwear in that situation.

Part of the low casualty rate is that we have been through these before, and one of the few benefits in having a national police force, everyone knows what to to. Long gone are the days when home owners would argue or insist on staying, when an evacuation order comes down, everyone moves. What is amazing is there were 88,000 residents located on two sides of the Athabaska river and one bridge. First, an estimated 25,000 fled north to the camps in the oil fields, but then yesterday morning they all had to sneak back south through a break in the fire escorted by RCMP and helicopters.

Kind of like a miniature D-Day

I also have to note that Alberta is ponying up $200 million for direct aid [money in the pocket] for now, Ottawa is matching Red Cross $ which now stands at $30 million. Every Safeway, McDonald's and more than a few independent businesses are posting signs for donations, one or two say they will match what shoppers donate. A caravan of four semi's left Vancouver yesterday loaded with supplies.

Meanwhile, this province has a "monster fire" all it's own...it broke free of containment yesterday..

B.C. wildfires continue to burn as wet weather approaches - British Columbia - CBC News

The new issue? Drone aircraft. Idiots are sending them in to get pictures and don't realize they pose a hazard to air crews, if there's a drone around they have to ground the planes and helicopters
 
I live in the Sierra foothills, so fires like this are my worst nightmare. Every evening I watch the news thinking, "it can't get any worse, they must have contained it by now." And every evening, the news gets worse.

What a horrific tragedy for all of Canada and its people. My thoughts and my heart goes out to you all. :(
 
Never heard of anything quite like this.

Is it known what caused the fire?
 
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