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From Whitewater to Benghazi: A Clinton Scandal Primer

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A brief listing:
  • Private email server.
  • State Department emails.
  • Benghazi
  • Conflicts of interest
  • Sidney Blumenthal
  • Speeches to Wall Street
  • The Clinton Foundation
  • Old stuff: Whitewater. Troopergate. Paula Jones. Monica Lewinsky. Travelgate. Vince Foster’s suicide. Juanita Broaddrick.
Details here.
 
You need a score card to keep track.

A brief listing:
  • Private email server.
  • State Department emails.
  • Benghazi
  • Conflicts of interest
  • Sidney Blumenthal
  • Speeches to Wall Street
  • The Clinton Foundation
  • Old stuff: Whitewater. Troopergate. Paula Jones. Monica Lewinsky. Travelgate. Vince Foster’s suicide. Juanita Broaddrick.
Details here.

It's creepy that she was the best the Democrats could do.
 
It's creepy that she was the best the Democrats could do.

Yes it is. No doubt about that. I myself would have hoped that Joe Biden had stepped in and made the primary run. But with the death of his son and his long mourning time - that simply was not in the cards.

I would say that on her worst day - Clinton is ten times better as a presidential prospect than Trump could ever dream to be.
 
Yes it is. No doubt about that. I myself would have hoped that Joe Biden had stepped in and made the primary run. But with the death of his son and his long mourning time - that simply was not in the cards.

I would say that on her worst day - Clinton is ten times better as a presidential prospect than Trump could ever dream to be.

I am not sure about the multiple, but she is less abysmal than the guy the Republicans nominated. But that doesn't mean much at all.
 
I am not sure about the multiple, but she is less abysmal than the guy the Republicans nominated. But that doesn't mean much at all.

At least if Hillary wins we will have answered one important question:

As a country we will have decided where corruption and lying fits into our government landscape - in the White House.

So now we can stop complaining about it! Hell, it might even rate a cabinet post.
 
At least if Hillary wins we will have answered one important question:

As a country we will have decided where corruption and lying fits into our government landscape - in the White House.

So now we can stop complaining about it! Hell, it might even rate a cabinet post.

You might want to look into the Cabinet members who served President Warren Harding.
 
At least if Hillary wins we will have answered one important question:

As a country we will have decided where corruption and lying fits into our government landscape - in the White House.

So now we can stop complaining about it! Hell, it might even rate a cabinet post.

There are several, and the same special interests have served Bush, Obama and now back Hillary.
 
I don't think any of the mentioned presidents were quite so "in your face" about it. Plus, they grew into it while in office rather than campaigned on it as if "it's just me".

BTW. Earlier wrongdoing does not excuse future wrongdoing.
 
You need a score card to keep track.

A brief listing:
  • Private email server.
  • State Department emails.
  • Benghazi
  • Conflicts of interest
  • Sidney Blumenthal
  • Speeches to Wall Street
  • The Clinton Foundation
  • Old stuff: Whitewater. Troopergate. Paula Jones. Monica Lewinsky. Travelgate. Vince Foster’s suicide. Juanita Broaddrick.
Details here.

Want to hear something depressing?

The only way the Democrat party would make that decision, to run a candidate as bad and openly corrupt and dishonest as Hillary Clinton is that they KNOW they're going to win in November.

For whatever reason they're absolutely confident that she'll some how eak out a victory.
 
Want to hear something depressing?

The only way the Democrat party would make that decision, to run a candidate as bad and openly corrupt and dishonest as Hillary Clinton is that they KNOW they're going to win in November.

For whatever reason they're absolutely confident that she'll some how eak out a victory.
For "whatever reason?"

I'd say that reason is the person they're running against.
 
For "whatever reason?"

I'd say that reason is the person they're running against.

That "person" was probably another Establishment fix from the beginning...or so I have been hearing for months now.

I'm not sure if I should be looking for my tin foil hat or not.
 
Yes it is. No doubt about that. I myself would have hoped that Joe Biden had stepped in and made the primary run. But with the death of his son and his long mourning time - that simply was not in the cards.

I would say that on her worst day - Clinton is ten times better as a presidential prospect than Trump could ever dream to be.

I think it depends on what you want done. If you want to bust out the United States she'd be the best by far.
 
That "person" was probably another Establishment fix from the beginning...or so I have been hearing for months now.

I'm not sure if I should be looking for my tin foil hat or not.

I don't feel like the GOP rigged things in favor of Trump.
 
If Hillary is elected, can we then go back and absolve Nixon of his lying, after all it will be a totally acceptable practice.

maybe Nixon short-circuited when he told those fibs.
 
I think it depends on what you want done. If you want to bust out the United States she'd be the best by far.

I don't follow what this article has to do with Clinton becoming President. Can you explain?
 
Yes it is. No doubt about that. I myself would have hoped that Joe Biden had stepped in and made the primary run. But with the death of his son and his long mourning time - that simply was not in the cards.

I would say that on her worst day - Clinton is ten times better as a presidential prospect than Trump could ever dream to be.

You set a low bar and it is still disputable. Pretty funny.
 
I don't follow what this article has to do with Clinton becoming President. Can you explain?

Putting a corporation deeply in debt, to the point that it collapses, in order to enrich you and your friends with no intention of paying it back, then leaving the honest owners holding the bag. That's what the Clintons and the Democrats are doing to the US.
 
Putting a corporation deeply in debt, to the point that it collapses, in order to enrich you and your friends with no intention of paying it back, then leaving the honest owners holding the bag. That's what the Clintons and the Democrats are doing to the US.

And your evidence of this claim would be what exactly?

The actual facts comparing the Trump economic plan to the plans of Clinton do not support your claim.

​Donald Trump's budget plan would add $10 trillion in debt - CBS News

WASHINGTON - A new Washington study says Donald Trump's tax and budget plans would make the national debt skyrocket by $10 trillion or more over the coming decade, mostly because of his ambitious and expensive tax cuts.

The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget says Democrat Hillary Clinton's agenda -- which relies on tax increases to pay for proposals such as making the Affordable Care Act more generous -- would increase the debt by about $250 billion over 10 years.

Trump's measure is considered important, because if the debt gets too large it would cause higher interest rates, be a severe drag on national investment and growth, and potentially lead to a fiscal crisis. Interest costs would also squeeze out other priorities such as defense, education and infrastructure investment.

Trump's tax plans, which include lowering the top income tax bracket from 39.6 percent to 25 percent and the top corporate rate from 35 percent to 15 percent, would add $9 trillion-plus to cumulative deficits over a decade. Clinton would increase taxes by $1.25 trillion over the same period, chiefly through a 4 percent surtax on top earners and a limit on deductions taken by the wealthy.

All told, Trump's policies would result in the $19.3 trillion national debt spiking to 127 percent of the size of the U.S. economy by 2026. Clinton's plans would closely track current law, in which the debt would equal 86 percent of the economy.

Based on this evidence it is evident that your charge fits Trump far far far better than it does Clinton.
 
Yes it is. No doubt about that. I myself would have hoped that Joe Biden had stepped in and made the primary run. But with the death of his son and his long mourning time - that simply was not in the cards.

I would say that on her worst day - Clinton is ten times better as a presidential prospect than Trump could ever dream to be.

See, on Trump's worst day, I've yet to hear about murders and suicides and scandals surrounding his campaign and life. I guess my standards are just different than yours.
 
Putting a corporation deeply in debt, to the point that it collapses, in order to enrich you and your friends with no intention of paying it back, then leaving the honest owners holding the bag. That's what the Clintons and the Democrats are doing to the US.

Very, very true. The collapse will be imminent at some point if we do not take back control of our spending and debt and social programs. I just don't understand why people who support Obama and Hillary don't address this. You cannot continue to provide for programs you simply have no money for. I'm not an economist - but what they are doing is kinda like "hey, I can't be out of money, I still have checks left." Just does not make sense. And many will reply, but Trumps plan is going to do ........and they state a hole bunch of stuff they've been fed by the media.

This might happen or it might not, we don't know. But we do know what Obama has done - it is written in stone and national debt. And we do know that Hillary wants to do the same thing only add more social programs to the agenda. So - we do kinda know what will happen even if we don't want to accept it.
 
Putting a corporation deeply in debt, to the point that it collapses, in order to enrich you and your friends with no intention of paying it back, then leaving the honest owners holding the bag. That's what the Clintons and the Democrats are doing to the US.

Are you under some kind of impression that Republicans... don't do this? Are you under some kind of impression that Trump wouldn't do exactly this?
 
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