SMIRKnCHIMP
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The wholesale murder of the innocent Iraqi women and children is not the American way...but the way of a Nazi don't you agree? Government documents show (Prescott Bush) the President Grandfather the MANAGING Director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its close ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolph Hitler's rise to power.
nkgupta80 said:tons of businesses back in the day had and were forming deals and contracts with German business men. Its what kept many congressmen from declaring war against Germany. This isn't something solely tied to Bush or the republican party.
With that said, I, however, am not a Bush supporter.
Republican said:I truly believe that God wanted Bush to be President. Had Bush ever had Presidential hopes before God spoke to him he would have led a much more low key life. There were many battles endorsed by God in the Bible so I don't feel he'd condemn one of his people for Sending troops to defend his people from Terrorist regimes who we ALL know had WMD. Now those WMD may no longer be in Iraq, I suspect they are in Syria now, But we know that Saddam has had them because he used them on his own people Just ask the poor Kurds, and the UN and every country in the world knew Saddam had them otherwise they wouldn't have passed so many resolutions.
I don't understand how President Bush is making it harder for all the Americans but 1%. He's got tax cuts passed (I bet you got your check and didn't even think of returning it) Which helped give a beautiful boost to the Economy which was slacking due to 9/11 and the Clintion Admins. policys. And just look how many jobs are being created.
Thank God For President Bush.
3 million manufacturing jobs have been lost under the commander in chimp........Question? is there an ignore button on this forum......I'm new but sure don't have anything to say to someone like yourself.......sorry.
nkgupta80 said:yep, if our country's economy keeps this up, we'll be in a big mess....Manufacturing is what runs a country. If we keep loosing it to countries like China, it'll be like cutting off our legs.
In terms of the Bush administration, I think that most politicians would have no idea how to solve this dillema, regardless of the party. Politicians are too worried about short-term progress. They wanna make sure their reputation during their administration is intact.
nkgupta80 said:tons of businesses back in the day had and were forming deals and contracts with German business men. Its what kept many congressmen from declaring war against Germany. This isn't something solely tied to Bush or the republican party.
With that said, I, however, am not a Bush supporter.
PhotonicLaceration said:I'm mainly only writing this in response to your first post:
SmirknChimp,
First off, I don't give a crap about that religious B.S., being that I am unreligous. Actually, I'm glad the President has a little bit of self-confidence instead of being a coward that's afraid to act on anything for any reason. And about that garbage about being for the cause of good, I believe that you are misguided, because in the long run our actions in the middle east should prove good if we can achieve our goals.
Do you really honestly, think that Iraq was an innocent country, or that Saddam Hussein, the dictator of Iraq who committed genocide and killed more than 400,000 kurds was an innocent man? Truly, your definition of innocent is quite disturbing. I hope you do not wish to be ruled by such an innocent man.
Also, your comparison of the United States to the Nazis is completely out of line, and a disservice to those who served in World War II, and those who are in the U.S. Armed Forces today. In my opinion it is also a disservice to history and shows your obvious lack of knowledge for the past.
Not only are the United States not murdering civilians by the hordes, but in fact these most recent operations have been less costly to the indigenous civilian population than almost any significant military operation in the past, especially when looking at Vietnam, WWII, and other wars of the past. Today, we don't firebomb cities killing hundreds of thousands at a time like in world war II, we don't artillery and utterly annihilate small towns via the dropping of dumb bombs. Through the use of smart weapons instead dumb weapons and by manually clearing out many buildings door-to-door, we are going out of our way to make sure that as few civilians are killed as possible. In fact, now that the invasion is done, and we are doing peace keeping operations, far more civilians are being killed by the insurgents and suicide bombers than us. And combined, between U.S. inflicted civilian casualties and those of the suicide bombers, the average number of daily civilian casualties still isn't much higher than the number Saddam would murder on a daily basis to aid his agenda.
In fact, if anyone is going to be compared to Hitler, it should be Saddam Hussein, who is a racist that has committed genocide, who exploited his country for his own personal riches.
The Insurgents in Iraq, who most of which aren't even from Iraq are not in much public support of the Iraqi population, which don't take to kindly to being blown up if you can put yourself in there shoes.
Also, last time I heard, Hitler wasn't supported by a very large fraction of the French population when they invaded. Hitler also didn't help set up a French military right after he tore down the first one, and he didn't seem to interested in setting them a good system.
As far as the Weapons of Mass Destruction are concerned, even Saddam thought he had them according to the paper trails... He instilled such fear into his subjects, that the ones that were supposed to head the programs for development of the weapons told him they had been developed to save their own skins from being tortured and killed.
Being that it was a war against terror and not a war against Osama Bin Laden, is another reason Saddam had to be dealt with. While we don't have official evidence, there is significant paper trails that indicate that he could have been funding many officially recognized terrorist organizations including the Al Qaida. Even if he didn't specifically fund terrorists, he still supported them, since he sure wasn't doing anything to prevent them from behiving in his country.
Further, how many American lives could've been saved if Clinton finnished the job when it was his turn? How many lives would it risk in the future if we left the problem unscathed?
Also, are you forgetting that the recent recession started three months before the end of the Clinton administration?
When people come accrossed and start making comparisons between President Bush and Hitler, or any other invalid comparison as drastic as that, how can anyone take them seriously?
History Lesson:
Learn about WWII. If you were to compare modern tactics to the tactics of the ALLIES in WWII, I bet you'd have a heart attack if you can call modern tactics Nazi-like. Look at Dresden for instance. Especially, look at the Nazis and axis powers from WWII. Then when you're done, compare Saddam to Bush.... see which one is more like Hitler.
PhotonicLaceration said:So let me try to understand your logic here... So you're saying that if your great grandpa made business deals with the Germans in WWII, then 70 years later you are a nazi, and all of your friends are a nazis. :roll:
Stuff like this wasn't too uncommon. Even in many families I know personally, go back far enough, there was some dealings with them.
SMIRKnCHIMP said:How can any man who decides he wants to run for political office, on cue suddenly experience a miraculous born again Christian conversion…not being critical, the coincidence is just too opportunistic. A story right out of Hollywood--*Bush said to James Robinson: 'I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. .. I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.
SMIRKnCHIMP said:The wholesale murder of the innocent Iraqi women and children is not the American way...but the way of a Nazi don't you agree? Government documents show (Prescott Bush) the President Grandfather the MANAGING Director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its close ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolph Hitler's rise to power.
FoxNews would not lie!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html
Yep, while my family along with millions of other were fighting the Nazi's. While our President’s Grandfather ‘Prescott Bush’ was supporting the mass murder of HITLER because he could make a dollar from it!
Your detailed reply would be most appreciated!!
Blueberry said:Bush should immediately sign up his twins for military service to show the world how much he believes in the war effort, to prove that this mission is noble, worth fighting, and most importantly, worth losing family members over.
Put your money where your mouth is, dude. :doh
cnredd said:Military is a VOLUNTEER service, which has a mandatory age limit.
It is illegal to sign someone else up.
To believe that someone should be forced into military service for what they themselves believe is ignorant.
cnredd said:Military is a VOLUNTEER service, which has a mandatory age limit.
It is illegal to sign someone else up.
To believe that someone should be forced into military service for what they themselves believe is ignorant.
SMIRKnCHIMP said:WHY ARE YOU NOT IN THE MILITARY
Kelzie said:Or even worse. For what their father believes...
cnredd said:I took the Navy test in '90...they said I did "quite well", but didn't give specifics...failed the physical, which had to be one of the stupidest things on earth considering I was a pro-wrestler at the time....
You are making an assumption that if one agrees with the government's military functions, then they should be there; which, I guess for you, would be quite nice; having everyone who disagrees with you fighting overseas to protect your right to be "48 years old" going on "retarded"....
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