From Obama's Berlin Speech Today

danarhea · Jul 24, 2008

Some people are now comparing Obama to Kennedy, but not me. IMHO, Obama is the most charismatic empty vessel since I don't know when.

These are the aspirations that joined the fates of all nations in this city. These aspirations are bigger than anything that drives us apart. It is because of these aspirations that the airlift began. It is because of these aspirations that all free people – everywhere – became citizens of Berlin. It is in pursuit of these aspirations that a new generation – our generation – must make our mark on the world.

People of Berlin – and people of the world – the scale of our challenge is great. The road ahead will be long. But I come before you to say that we are heirs to a struggle for freedom. We are a people of improbable hope. With an eye toward the future, with resolve in our hearts, let us remember this history, and answer our destiny, and remake the world once again.

No doubt about it. Obama has the gift of gab, but what we need is a president who will perform actions, and on that front, both Obama and McCain fall pathetically short. Talk is cheap.

ReverendHellh0und · Jul 24, 2008

glad my tax money went to this campaign speech. :roll:

the makeout hobo · Jul 24, 2008

danarhea said:
Some people are now comparing Obama to Kennedy, but not me. IMHO, Obama is the most charismatic empty vessel since I don't know when.

No doubt about it. Obama has the gift of gab, but what we need is a president who will perform actions, and on that front, both Obama and McCain fall pathetically short. Talk is cheap.

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What do you want them to do that they're not doing or promising to do?

DarkWizard12 · Jul 24, 2008

the makeout hobo said:
What do you want them to do that they're not doing or promising to do?

Exactly, they aren;t promising to do anything, therefore, they don't and won't have to do anything.

Lerxst · Jul 24, 2008

DarkWizard12 said:
Exactly, they aren;t promising to do anything, therefore, they don't and won't have to do anything.

What?????????

rsixing · Jul 24, 2008

danarhea said:
Some people are now comparing Obama to Kennedy, but not me. IMHO, Obama is the most charismatic empty vessel since I don't know when.

No doubt about it. Obama has the gift of gab, but what we need is a president who will perform actions, and on that front, both Obama and McCain fall pathetically short. Talk is cheap.

I generally agree with most of your posts but I think at this time to pass judgment on both candidates as "...who will perform actions...(is) pathetically short..." is a little premature.

DarkWizard12 · Jul 24, 2008

JeffMerriman said:
What?????????

Some time in the past, a politician figured out that you don't need to make promises to get elected. Just say a bunch fo fancy words that make people feel cozy inside. So then, when they got into office, no one can call on them for lieing.

its a dirty exploit.

ibliving · Jul 25, 2008

Obama should give up running here and go for office in Germany since he's so popular. "Obama for chancellor '08", it flows well...

aps · Jul 25, 2008

ibliving said:
Obama should give up running here and go for office in Germany since he's so popular. "Obama for chancellor '08", it flows well...

LOL There there, ibliving. You're just upset because Europe thinks George Bush is a boob. :rofl

PeteEU · Jul 25, 2008

I think the right is pissed that a democratic American politician can get 200.000 people to come listen to him in a foreign country, and no one wants to listen their has been 72 year old forgetful candidate that makes AL Gore look and sound exciting

DarkWizard12 · Jul 25, 2008

PeteEU said:
I think the right is pissed that a democratic American politician can get 200.000 people to come listen to him in a foreign country, and no one wants to listen their has been 72 year old forgetful candidate that makes AL Gore look and sound exciting

Your right. As a person right-of center, I can say that I'm pissed that an empty vessel like Obama actually has a chance of becoming president. American deserves better, much better from our politicians than this.

PeteEU · Jul 25, 2008

DarkWizard12 said:
Your right. As a person right-of center, I can say that I'm pissed that an empty vessel like Obama actually has a chance of becoming president. American deserves better, much better from our politicians than this.

Well you can have an "empty vessel" like Obama or a forgetful borderline dementia vessel like McCain.. I know what I would choose hands down.... I can barely trust my own father with things these days as he forgets once in a while, and he is younger than McCain and in much better shape.

ReverendHellh0und · Jul 25, 2008

You know reading his speach this morning it is clear, that he and reverend wright hold the same opinion about my great country. :roll:

DarkWizard12 · Jul 25, 2008

PeteEU said:
Well you can have an "empty vessel" like Obama or a forgetful borderline dementia vessel like McCain.. I know what I would choose hands down.... I can barely trust my own father with things these days as he forgets once in a while, and he is younger than McCain and in much better shape.

But you see, thats the problem with this election. No matter what happens, we lose this election. We have 2 loser democrats running for office, where do we true conservatives vote? 3rd party?

PeteEU · Jul 25, 2008

DarkWizard12 said:
But you see, thats the problem with this election. No matter what happens, we lose this election. We have 2 loser democrats running for office, where do we true conservatives vote? 3rd party?

Well that's how your political system works. I have pointed out the issues several times, but always gotten blasted at for stating the obvious.

And if you want true conservatives, move to Iran or Saudi Arabia.. and no I am not joking.

rsixing · Jul 25, 2008

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
You know reading his speach this morning it is clear, that he and reverend wright hold the same opinion about my great country. :roll:

What part of the speech is that rev? Perhaps I missed that obvious position of Obama's.

ReverendHellh0und · Jul 25, 2008

rsixing said:
What part of the speech is that rev? Perhaps I missed that obvious position of Obama's.

I quoted it in another thread somewhere.

rsixing · Jul 25, 2008

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I quoted it in another thread somewhere.

lol...gotcha! :mrgreen:

the makeout hobo · Jul 26, 2008

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I quoted it in another thread somewhere.

Mind quoting it in this thread?

GottaHurt · Jul 26, 2008

I'm embarrassed that Hussein Obama went to Germany, for a speech in front of an estimated 200,000 people, and he gave his speech in English.

Just a couple of weeks ago, he was bad mouthing Americans for not being more bi/multilingual. He said it was embarrassing that Europeans come here and speak English, but we go to Europe, and all we can say is merci beaucoup.

I mean he could have hired a tutor, used a Berlitz language book, or even purchased Rosetta Stone to educate himself a little bit.

For him to have given that speech in German, would've been impressive, and shown his command of the world stage. Instead, we witnessed yet another arrogant, and hypocrital moment in his campaign.

Thorgasm · Jul 26, 2008

GottaHurt said:
I'm embarrassed that Hussein Obama went to Germany, for a speech in front of an estimated 200,000 people, and he gave his speech in English.

Just a couple of weeks ago, he was bad mouthing Americans for not being more bi/multilingual. He said it was embarrassing that Europeans come here and speak English, but we go to Europe, and all we can say is merci beaucoup.

I mean he could have hired a tutor, used a Berlitz language book, or even purchased Rosetta Stone to educate himself a little bit.

For him to have given that speech in German, would've been impressive, and shown his command of the world stage. Instead, we witnessed yet another arrogant, and hypocrital moment in his campaign.

He never claimed to speak German. Perhaps his speaks a different language. Perhaps he only speaks english. It doesn't make him a hypocrite, it illustrates his point. So you are conceding the multilingual argument for this hypocrisy claim? Please tell me you are working for McCain. :mrgreen:

partier9 · Jul 26, 2008

independent_thinker2002 said:
He never claimed to speak German. Perhaps his speaks a different language. Perhaps he only speaks english. It doesn't make him a hypocrite, it illustrates his point. So you are conceding the multilingual argument for this hypocrisy claim? Please tell me you are working for McCain. :mrgreen:

For once I have to agree with you this argument made by GottaHurt is stupid. German isn't a common language to learn in America so I don't see a problem with him not speaking in German, Spanish, French, and Latin are the common languages to learn here. Now in Germany I know that French and English are the
main languages taught there.

GottaHurt · Jul 26, 2008

independent_thinker2002 said:
He never claimed to speak German.

I never said he did. Again, the clueless show up and blabber on.

Lerxst · Jul 27, 2008

GottaHurt said:
I'm embarrassed that Hussein Obama went to Germany, for a speech in front of an estimated 200,000 people, and he gave his speech in English.

Just a couple of weeks ago, he was bad mouthing Americans for not being more bi/multilingual. He said it was embarrassing that Europeans come here and speak English, but we go to Europe, and all we can say is merci beaucoup.

I mean he could have hired a tutor, used a Berlitz language book, or even purchased Rosetta Stone to educate himself a little bit.

For him to have given that speech in German, would've been impressive, and shown his command of the world stage. Instead, we witnessed yet another arrogant, and hypocrital moment in his campaign.

Good lord, I think we just found our new Jethro.

Kernel Sanders · Jul 27, 2008

GottaHurt said:
I'm embarrassed that Hussein Obama went to Germany, for a speech in front of an estimated 200,000 people, and he gave his speech in English.

Just a couple of weeks ago, he was bad mouthing Americans for not being more bi/multilingual. He said it was embarrassing that Europeans come here and speak English, but we go to Europe, and all we can say is merci beaucoup.

I mean he could have hired a tutor, used a Berlitz language book, or even purchased Rosetta Stone to educate himself a little bit.

For him to have given that speech in German, would've been impressive, and shown his command of the world stage. Instead, we witnessed yet another arrogant, and hypocrital moment in his campaign.

JFK's speech was in English, save two phrases. I would rather have Obama give an eloquent speech in English than stumble around in a language he doesn't speak, unless you're putting forth the opinion that every time a presidential candidate, let alone a president, gives a speech in a foreign nation they should become fluent in its language.

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