France and UK plan joint military forces

[Infinite Chaos]

A joint European military force may not be such a bad thing, but without backing from a major power it will not work.

The OP is about co-operation between the UK and France; not about a joint European Army.

-- It will be incapable of being something as powerful as NATO or the Warsaw Pact

I haven't read anywhere that NATO is being dismantled, last I read it was still growing in membership - so again, no need for an EU army.

This agreement between the French and British will be short lived, as soon as there is one disagreement or a change in government in either state it will end.

The nuclear co-operation element will survive, both countries governments wish to maintain a nuclear weapon option and this allows the future development of that. As for the military element, currently it's only a joint force comprising the equivalent of two brigades or 5000 men each. There's no proposed sublimation of either nation's armies into one mass.

Personally I think we in the UK have rebuffed France too often in the recent past. Twice last century the French proposed becoming part of the UK and we spurned their proposals. Rather than the UK get further involved in Europe, I would prefer stronger ties between France and the UK.

And the next time a French Govt delegation offers France become part of the UK (in whatever form) - we should agree. Our two economies would work so much better together than apart.

 

[Grant]

And the next time a French Govt delegation offers France become part of the UK (in whatever form) - we should agree. Our two economies would work so much better together than apart.

And the riots could be coordinated much more efficiently.

 

[paris]

Not part of the military forces but I view such tight cooperations between European powers as very positive.

Happy Poppy Day btw

 

[Infinite Chaos]

And the riots could be coordinated much more efficiently.

Not as if the Canadians couldn't teach us anything about rioting.

Just going back a couple of years -

This year

last year

Previous year.

 

[Grant]

Not as if the Canadians couldn't teach us anything about rioting.

Just going back a couple of years -

This year

Het, we're a colony. We learnd from the maters

last year

Previous year.

Our riots are actually quite boring and don't last all that long. We're generally in bed by 11.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

It was a painful and bloody labour but we only had to wait 9 months for the first bit of humour out of you.

Thank you.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Royal Marine here, been on a British aircraft carrier, and, lo-and-behold, there were, in fact, planes.

Just a heads up

HMS Ark Royal Set on its Last Voyage before Decommissioning - Defense-Update

After celebrating 25 years in the fleet commission at a special ceremony attended by HM The Queen in Portsmouth on November 5, the British Royal Navy’s aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal is sailing into the Clyde on her final voyage. The Invincible class carrier was considered in the Fleet reductions required under Strategic Defense and Security Review (SDSR) and Ark will now retire gracefully having delivered a quarter of a century of proud and sterling service to the country. Her role as the current Royal Navy flagship will initially be taken on by amphibious assault ship HMS Albion in early December. Royal Navy carriers will again lead the navy as the new Queen Elizabeth class carriers become operational

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The fifth vessel to bear the proud name, Ark Royal was launched by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother on 20 June 1981, accepted into service on 1 July 1985 and commissioned on November 1985. During her busy life the ship has seen service around the globe and has shown her adaptability from the original role as an anti-submarine helicopter carrier designed for the Cold War through to the Commando helicopter and carrier strike role of recent years. Ark’s operations have included playing a pivotal part of the NATO campaign during the Bosnia conflict and, in early 2003, leading the UK’s naval forces during Op Telic – the invasion of Iraq, with a fleet of helicopters embarked.