Fox News vs. Other News Outlets

[LimeLight]

Why would a news organization care if their biased? All they care about is good ratings. It's easier to establish a larger viewer base if everything they report and opinion on matches a common viewpoint. How boring would it be if there was only one completely unbiased news network? I think biased networks are fine, as long as their observer is educated well enough to realize it.

 

[mpg]

I think biased networks are fine, as long as their observer is educated well enough to realize it.

If this thread is any indication, there are millions of people who don't realize how biased the networks are. That makes them highly vulnerable to persuasion.

 

[LimeLight]

If this thread is any indication, there are millions of people who don't realize how biased the networks are. That makes them highly vulnerable to persuasion.

Nonsense! With a great education system we have surely people know better! Yes i agree, there are people who don't know any better. But as long as there is free speech, there is bias. Especially on networks that are focused on news and politics. Maybe all biased networks should label themselves? I don't foresee that day.

 

[Rightwingnutjob]

Why would a news organization care if their biased? All they care about is good ratings. It's easier to establish a larger viewer base if everything they report and opinion on matches a common viewpoint. How boring would it be if there was only one completely unbiased news network? I think biased networks are fine, as long as their observer is educated well enough to realize it.

I have to agree with this. It's a great point. Although I also have to agree with mpg, when points out if this thread is any indication, people clearly believe "their" station is unbiased far too often.

 

[Layla_Z]

I notice you state you are "Very Liberal" and I'm thinking this has something to do with why you think Fox is the most biased (they're the furthest from what you believe as the are the one conservative station in the mainstream media). I would say that NPR is AT LEAST as biased. CNN, MSNBC both of those are quite biased. Fox is biased but if it is "the most biased" then I would have to say it is tied with some news stations at the other end of the spectrum.

My political leanings have nothing to do with my ability to distinguish between fact and biased opinion. I recognize liberal bias when I see it as I stated earlier.

Fox "news" is biased. I don't understand how someone could watch Hannity, Beck, or O'Reilly and say the network is fair and balanced. There is no one on NPR that compares to these - I don't even know what to call them.

 

[Layla_Z]

Does Beck?

I don't know about Beck but O'Reilly thinks he's a journalist that won the Peabody Award.

 

[Layla_Z]

Why would a news organization care if their biased? All they care about is good ratings. It's easier to establish a larger viewer base if everything they report and opinion on matches a common viewpoint. How boring would it be if there was only one completely unbiased news network? I think biased networks are fine, as long as their observer is educated well enough to realize it.

I have no problem with bias as long as the network or person admits to it. What I don't like is someone claiming to be unbiased when they are not. Sadly, I think too many people cannot tell or cannot be bothered to tell the differenct.

 

[mac]

My political leanings have nothing to do with my ability to distinguish between fact and biased opinion. I recognize liberal bias when I see it as I stated earlier.

Fox "news" is biased. I don't understand how someone could watch Hannity, Beck, or O'Reilly and say the network is fair and balanced. There is no one on NPR that compares to these - I don't even know what to call them.

How about Maddow and Olberman on MSNBC?

 

[Barbbtx]

My political leanings have nothing to do with my ability to distinguish between fact and biased opinion. I recognize liberal bias when I see it as I stated earlier.

Fox "news" is biased. I don't understand how someone could watch Hannity, Beck, or O'Reilly and say the network is fair and balanced. There is no one on NPR that compares to these - I don't even know what to call them.

That's 3 shows on FOX. Another 3 on Fox are not so Conservative. Brett Baer, Shepherd Smith, and Greta Van Sustern. Name 3 shows on MSNBC that balance out Olbermann, Maddow, and Ed.

 

[mpg]

That's 3 shows on FOX. Another 3 on Fox are not so Conservative. Brett Baer, Shepherd Smith, and Greta Van Sustern. Name 3 shows on MSNBC that balance out Olbermann, Maddow, and Ed.

I think she was making a point about NPR, not MSNBC.

 

[mpg]

I don't understand how someone could watch Hannity, Beck, or O'Reilly and say the network is fair and balanced. There is no one on NPR that compares to these - I don't even know what to call them.

Thankfully, NPR doesn't have anyone as tabloidish as those guys, but there are plenty of people who are as far to the left as those guys are to the right. You've got Terry Gross, Neil Conan, Tom Ashbrook, Daniel Schorr plus the cast of Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me!

 

[Barbbtx]

I think she was making a point about NPR, not MSNBC.

I'd love to be able to comment on NPR but don't know where to find it. Also since airhead America went belly up I can't find ANY liberal talk radio.

 

[winston53660]

I'd love to be able to comment on NPR but don't know where to find it. Also since airhead America went belly up I can't find ANY liberal talk radio.

Can you pick up Dallas radio? if so it is 90.1 on radio dial.

 

[somepeoplesay]

That's 3 shows on FOX. Another 3 on Fox are not so Conservative. Brett Baer, Shepherd Smith, and Greta Van Sustern. Name 3 shows on MSNBC that balance out Olbermann, Maddow, and Ed.

Haha, Special Report isn't conservative even though everyone on that panel is either conservative or moderate? Special Report is just as guilty of bias, albeit more subtle bias then Beck or Hannity.

3 non-liberal shows? Joe Scarborough, obviously, The Daily Rundown, and Andrea Mitchell Reports. MSNBC is biased but not nearly on the level of FOX, those guys are seasoned veterans.

 

[Layla_Z]

That's 3 shows on FOX. Another 3 on Fox are not so Conservative. Brett Baer, Shepherd Smith, and Greta Van Sustern. Name 3 shows on MSNBC that balance out Olbermann, Maddow, and Ed.

I'm not talking about MSNBC. I don't watch that network much. I'm talking about NPR.

 

[Layla_Z]

Thankfully, NPR doesn't have anyone as tabloidish as those guys, but there are plenty of people who are as far to the left as those guys are to the right. You've got Terry Gross, Neil Conan, Tom Ashbrook, Daniel Schorr plus the cast of Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me!

Wait Wait Don't Tell Me is news? None of the people you name measure up to the Fox News people in bias. Could you perhaps post any examples of the this bias on NPR?

 

[mpg]

Wait Wait Don't Tell Me is news?

None of the people you mentioned on Fox are news people.

None of the people you name measure up to the Fox News people in bias. Could you perhaps post any examples of the this bias on NPR?

Practically everything they say is liberal/progressive, but that's ok because they aren't news people. The point is that FNC and NPR are mostly commentary with just a little bit of hard news. Both do a good job of being objective with the hard news and they can do whatever they want with the commentary. FNC's commentary is provided mainly from people on the right and NPR's commentary is provided mainly from people on the left. That's no problem because commentary isn't supposed to be unbiased.

 

[Sir Loin]

None of the people you mentioned on Fox are news people.

Practically everything they say is liberal/progressive, but that's ok because they aren't news people. The point is that FNC and NPR are mostly commentary with just a little bit of hard news. Both do a good job of being objective with the hard news and they can do whatever they want with the commentary. FNC's commentary is provided mainly from people on the right and NPR's commentary is provided mainly from people on the left. That's no problem because commentary isn't supposed to be unbiased.

Thank you MPG, as stated earlier there are a great many people who lack the knowledge about what the difference between hard news reporting and opinion commentary is. And this is proven true in the majority of the anti Fox News thread day in and day out at DP and has been for years.

 

[Barbbtx]

Can you pick up Dallas radio? if so it is 90.1 on radio dial.

AH! Thanks Winston. I found it. Now, do you happen to know when Juan Williams is on?

 

[Barbbtx]

Haha, Special Report isn't conservative even though everyone on that panel is either conservative or moderate? Special Report is just as guilty of bias, albeit more subtle bias then Beck or Hannity.

3 non-liberal shows? Joe Scarborough, obviously, The Daily Rundown, and Andrea Mitchell Reports. MSNBC is biased but not nearly on the level of FOX, those guys are seasoned veterans.

Morning Joe? Sheesh, he's sure not a conservative and a RINO to boot. I'll make a point to catch daily rundown. Isn't Andrea Mitchell far far left?
So do you think O'Rielly, Glenn, and Hannity are more to the right, than, Olbermann, Maddow and ED are to the left? Or are they all about the same distance from the center?

 

[somepeoplesay]

Morning Joe? Sheesh, he's sure not a conservative and a RINO to boot. I'll make a point to catch daily rundown. Isn't Andrea Mitchell far far left?
So do you think O'Rielly, Glenn, and Hannity are more to the right, than, Olbermann, Maddow and ED are to the left? Or are they all about the same distance from the center?

Hmmm, i'd say Olbermann and Ed Schultz are just Democrat shills, so not particularly "far left" since most of the Democratic leadership is in fact moderate. Maddow is progressive though, without a doubt. Hannity is a Republican shill to me, O'Reilly is more moderate-right, and Beck is probably the most far-right of the bunch.

 

[Barbbtx]

Hmmm, i'd say Olbermann and Ed Schultz are just Democrat shills, so not particularly "far left" since most of the Democratic leadership is in fact moderate. Maddow is progressive though, without a doubt. Hannity is a Republican shill to me, O'Reilly is more moderate-right, and Beck is probably the most far-right of the bunch.

I've heard ED shout about being a progressive. He's one of the few not ashamed to admit it. I thought he was going to give himself a heart attack during all the healthcare debates. He just wanted the single payer jammed through no matter what anyone thought. He was highly agitated at Obama, pelosi, ried, and all the dems for compromising. He's farther left than they are.
Olbermann is simply a shill for Obama. Probably has no real belief's of his own.

 

[mac]

Hmmm, i'd say Olbermann and Ed Schultz are just Democrat shills, so not particularly "far left" since most of the Democratic leadership is in fact moderate. Maddow is progressive though, without a doubt. Hannity is a Republican shill to me, O'Reilly is more moderate-right, and Beck is probably the most far-right of the bunch.

You would say that Obama, Biden, Pelosi and Reid are moderate?

 

[Rightwingnutjob]

You would say that Obama, Biden, Pelosi and Reid are moderate?

No. (Character limit)

Edit:
Actually to be fair. Biden and Pelosi are a bit--how shall I put it--well, they're not the most intelligent. As such I'll simply state that while they're not far far left, they're the pawns of the far far left.

 

[somepeoplesay]

You would say that Obama, Biden, Pelosi and Reid are moderate?

Pelosi is the most progressive, but yea i'd say the rest are moderates, especially Obama. I love all these people who call Obama a "socialist", after he just gave insurance companies many more customers, escalated the war in Afghanistan, and reinstated Clinton-era tax policies. He's just another wimpy moderate Democrat, much like Clinton. All these far-left, socialist/marxist allegations are total hyperbole.

If you need proof, just ask a real socialist or marxist what they think of Obama.