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Fox News’ Shep Smith explains why Trump’s foreign policy went down in flames at today’s Senate Intel

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It has got to sting when even Partisan Fox news Shep Smith rebukes your foreign policy. So much for "ISIS is defeated".:roll:


< Tuesday, several top national security officials appointed by President Donald Trump testified in front of Congress.>

<Fox News host Shep Smith opened his show by discussing the ways in which their testimony proved a strong rebuke of Trump’s own foreign policy.>

<According to FBI director Christopher Wray, the Russians have meddled in our elections and are “continuing to adapt their model” while “other countries are taking a very interested eye in that approach.”>

<“Of course, intelligence agencies found that Russia meddled in the 2016 presidential election and 2018 midterms, using social media to try to manipulate voters,” Smith said.>

<Smith then detailed how the day’s testimony “directly contradicts President Trump’s foreign policy.”>

<“They say North Korea will likely not give up their nuclear arsenal. [National Intelligence director Dan] Coats say its leaders viewed nuclear weapons as critical to the North Korean regime’s survival,” Smith said. “Second, on Iran, the Islamic Republic is not currently undertaking the necessary steps to make a bomb.”>

<Trump’s claim that ISIS is defeated and that a border wall is needed to stop a “crisis” on the southern border were also undermined by Trump’s own appointees, he said.>

<“Regarding the ongoing threat from the Islamic state, ISIS still commands thousands of fighters in Iraq and Syria and is active in Syria and has networks around the world. In short, ISIS is not defeated,” he said. “And finally, nowhere in the 42-page threat assessment report is there an indication that a wall on the southern border would be helpful in any way and nothing to indicate a wall should be built to bolster national security or anything else.”>

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/fo...licy-went-flames-todays-senate-intel-hearing/
 

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LOL, dude you got punked.. Shep is no conservative.. You may as well have quoted Don Lemon.. ;)


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It has got to sting when even Partisan Fox news Shep Smith rebukes your foreign policy. So much for "ISIS[FONT=&] is defeated[/FONT]".:roll:

You mean never-Trumper Shepherd Smith?
 

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It has got to sting when even Partisan Fox news Shep Smith rebukes your foreign policy. So much for "ISIS[FONT=&] is defeated[/FONT]".:roll:

Obamafail could not take ISIS out and under his watch they were the JV Team. But to compare there is hardly any ISIS left.

[FONT=&]<According to FBI director Christopher Wray, the Russians have meddled in our elections and are “continuing to adapt their model” while “other countries are taking a very interested eye in that approach.”>[/FONT]

The Russians meddling in elections has been going on for decades. And Obamafail knew it and did nothing to stop it.

[FONT=&]<“Of course, intelligence agencies found that Russia meddled in the 2016 presidential election and 2018 midterms, using social media to try to manipulate voters,” Smith said.>[/FONT]

As they do with every country that they have an interest in.

[FONT=&]<Smith then detailed how the day’s testimony “directly contradicts President Trump’s foreign policy.”>[/FONT]

Be specific, what foreign policies did Smith contradict?????

[FONT=&]<“They say North Korea will likely not give up their nuclear arsenal. [National Intelligence director Dan] Coats say its leaders viewed nuclear weapons as critical to the North Korean regime’s survival,” Smith said. “Second, on Iran, the Islamic Republic is not currently undertaking the necessary steps to make a bomb.”>[/FONT]

There you leftie liberals go again with your Maybe, I think, could be, might be, will likely etc etc. That means they don't know anything.

[FONT=&]<Trump’s claim that ISIS is defeated and that a border wall is needed to stop a “crisis” on the southern border were also undermined by Trump’s own appointees, he said.>[/FONT]

Tell me what is left of ISIS? Be specific

A person would have to be brain dead to think a wall does not work and that it is immoral.

[FONT=&]<“Regarding the ongoing threat from the Islamic state, ISIS still commands thousands of fighters in Iraq and Syria and is active in Syria and has networks around the world. In short, ISIS is not defeated,” he said. “And finally, nowhere in the 42-page threat assessment report is there an indication that a wall on the southern border would be helpful in any way and nothing to indicate a wall should be built to bolster national security or anything else.”>


Thousand of ISIS fighters, how many thousands??????

Last Smith is a liberal and the way he twist the Truth he belongs with CNN, MSNBC or BuzzFeed
 

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I suppose when the message hits home and exposes Trumps lies, the only Trumper reflex remaining is to attack the messenger.
 

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Fox News’ Shep Smith explains why Trump’s foreign policy went down in flames at today’s Senate Intel

Whatever Shep said, it boils down to this: Trump's foreign policy is ill-considered; therefore it "went down in flames."

Anyone who knows anything about existential threats and non-threats in the world will know that simple assertion is spot-on. Alas, folks who for whatever reason are benighted about such things will, based on nothing other than their political preference for Trump, attempt to argue, however sophistically, that Trump's foreign policy is poignantly sage and trenchant. Nothing could be farther from the truth, but one cannot tell ever-intransigent Trumpkins that.


Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov​
 
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So we trust the Saudis now. You know, the nation from which most of the 9/11 attackers came. We're taking their word for things? Just checking.

You got it backwards, they don't trust us. Did you read my link, Obama lied. As for taking someone's words, it was Obama that put down the RED LINE that Syria walked all over and Trump had to fix it. Christ Obamafail was all over the news saying he put down the RED LINE. But the coward did nothing.
 

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Whatever Shep said, it boils down to this: Trump's foreign policy is ill-considered; therefore it "went down in flames."

Anyone who knows anything about existential threats and non-threats in the world will know that simple assertion is spot-on. Alas, folks who for whatever reason are benighted about such things will, based on nothing other than their political preference for Trump, attempt to argue, however sophistically, that Trump's foreign policy is poignantly sage and trenchant. Nothing could be farther from the truth, but one cannot tell ever-intransigent Trumpkins that.


Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov​

Obamafail’s Stupidly,
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Putin told Obamafail to stay out of Crimea and he said yes sir. How stupid was that???
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Putin told Obamafail to NOT sell arms to Ukrainian and he said yes sir. How stupid was that.
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Putin told Obamafail to NOT put our missile defense shield in NATO, he again says yes sir. How stupid was that.
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Obamafail asked Putin of all people to certify that all of Syria’s WMD were taking out of Syria and Putin lied to Obamafail. How stupid was that?
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Obamafail told Russia that once he is reelected he can be more flexible to what Putin wants. How stupid was that. Obamafail loved Putin and did whatever Putin wanted. How stupid was that. Watch the video.
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https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...ebe22615f3d65bfe65b0b38fafc50134&action=click
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Obamafail was in office and what did he do to shut down NK’s nuclear program. Absolutely nothing. Obamafail was a stupid coward.
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Obamafail flies in the middle of the night to Iran to deliver billions in cash so that Iran can fund their terrorists group without the money being traced. How stupid was that?
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Obamafail cuts a deal with Iran to delay the making of nukes for 10 yrs and the agreement does not have inspections anywhere anytime. Not only that, no one can inspect any of Iran’s military bases. How stupid was that?
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Obamafail pulls out of Iraq and leaves ISIS to materialize and when they do he calls them the JV Team. However that JV Team was not JV at all, making Obamafail to go back into Iraq to try to eradicate ISIS by tying the hands of our military. Thus he could not eradicate ISIS. How stupid was that?
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Obamafail yells out his RED LINE to Syria to never use WMD’s on its people again, Yep Syria walked all over Obamafail’s RED LINE. Obamafail does nothing. What a ****ing dumbass coward.
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Obamafail bombs the crap out of Lybia and walks away. And in doing so the resistance builds and raids our embassy killing four of our own. And

Obamafail goes around calling it a protest of some stupid video. How stupid can this dumbass be?

Obamafail, did what to get NATO to get them to pay their fair share which is 2% of their GDP, but none of them were paying up except the US paying our share and subsidizing them.
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Obamafail buys his allies, how stupid is that?????

What did Obamafail do against China for stealing our intellectual capital? And China ripping us off on trade. He did not a ****ing thing, what a stupid coward he was?

What did Obamafail do to kill NAFTA that was ripping off our country? And renegotiate NAFTA for a better deal. What a stupid coward he was?
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Obamafail cuts a deal with Iran so they can have nukes in 10 yrs. and he has no inspections anytime anywhere. BTW Obamafail could not go on an Iran military bass. How stupid is that. Remember Reagan’s famous quote “trust but verify” Obamafail missed that speech.
 

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Obamafail’s Stupidly,
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Putin told Obamafail to stay out of Crimea and he said yes sir. How stupid was that???
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Putin told Obamafail to NOT sell arms to Ukrainian and he said yes sir. How stupid was that.
*
Putin told Obamafail to NOT put our missile defense shield in NATO, he again says yes sir. How stupid was that.
*
Obamafail asked Putin of all people to certify that all of Syria’s WMD were taking out of Syria and Putin lied to Obamafail. How stupid was that?
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Obamafail told Russia that once he is reelected he can be more flexible to what Putin wants. How stupid was that. Obamafail loved Putin and did whatever Putin wanted. How stupid was that. Watch the video.
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https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...ebe22615f3d65bfe65b0b38fafc50134&action=click
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Obamafail was in office and what did he do to shut down NK’s nuclear program. Absolutely nothing. Obamafail was a stupid coward.
*
Obamafail flies in the middle of the night to Iran to deliver billions in cash so that Iran can fund their terrorists group without the money being traced. How stupid was that?
*
Obamafail cuts a deal with Iran to delay the making of nukes for 10 yrs and the agreement does not have inspections anywhere anytime. Not only that, no one can inspect any of Iran’s military bases. How stupid was that?
*
Obamafail pulls out of Iraq and leaves ISIS to materialize and when they do he calls them the JV Team. However that JV Team was not JV at all, making Obamafail to go back into Iraq to try to eradicate ISIS by tying the hands of our military. Thus he could not eradicate ISIS. How stupid was that?
*
Obamafail yells out his RED LINE to Syria to never use WMD’s on its people again, Yep Syria walked all over Obamafail’s RED LINE. Obamafail does nothing. What a ****ing dumbass coward.
*
Obamafail bombs the crap out of Lybia and walks away. And in doing so the resistance builds and raids our embassy killing four of our own. And

Obamafail goes around calling it a protest of some stupid video. How stupid can this dumbass be?

Obamafail, did what to get NATO to get them to pay their fair share which is 2% of their GDP, but none of them were paying up except the US paying our share and subsidizing them.
*
Obamafail buys his allies, how stupid is that?????

What did Obamafail do against China for stealing our intellectual capital? And China ripping us off on trade. He did not a ****ing thing, what a stupid coward he was?

What did Obamafail do to kill NAFTA that was ripping off our country? And renegotiate NAFTA for a better deal. What a stupid coward he was?
*
Obamafail cuts a deal with Iran so they can have nukes in 10 yrs. and he has no inspections anytime anywhere. BTW Obamafail could not go on an Iran military bass. How stupid is that. Remember Reagan’s famous quote “trust but verify” Obamafail missed that speech.

Whataboutism
 

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LOL, dude you got punked.. Shep is no conservative.. You may as well have quoted Don Lemon.. ;)


Tim-

That's what separates Fox from MSNBC. Fox panels usually have authentic liberal talking heads for contrast. People like Juan Williams, Marie Harf, Sheppard Smith, Jessica Tarlov. They're usually out numbered, and the format is obviously tilted against them, but they are VERY strident and never let up on Trump. Especially Juan. On MSNBC, their "conservatives" are never Trumpers that hate Trump every bit as much as their liberal "counter parts". People like Michael Steele and Joe Scarborough. No matter what the subject is, if Trump is involved, if it's a panel of 4, there will be 4 Trump haters criticizing and ridiculing him. Never fails. TBH, I think Smith is playing a role. He's pretty liberal, but not as combative as he's been with Trump. Until Trump appeared on the scene, it was hard to tell which way Smith leaned politically, which a hard news reporter should be. I understand cable news is all about catering to a certain political demographic, but MSNBC or CNN doesn't even fake an opposing perspective.
 

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That's what separates Fox from MSNBC. Fox panels usually have authentic liberal talking heads for contrast. People like Juan Williams, Marie Harf, Sheppard Smith, Jessica Tarlov. They're usually out numbered, and the format is obviously tilted against them, but they are VERY strident and never let up on Trump. Especially Juan. On MSNBC, their "conservatives" are never Trumpers that hate Trump every bit as much as their liberal "counter parts". People like Michael Steele and Joe Scarborough. No matter what the subject is, if Trump is involved, if it's a panel of 4, there will be 4 Trump haters criticizing and ridiculing him. Never fails. TBH, I think Smith is playing a role. He's pretty liberal, but not as combative as he's been with Trump. Until Trump appeared on the scene, it was hard to tell which way Smith leaned politically, which a hard news reporter should be. I understand cable news is all about catering to a certain political demographic, but MSNBC or CNN doesn't even fake an opposing perspective.


What a crock of ****. First of all, Shep Smith isn't on panels. He's an anchor who, along with Wallace are the only fair minded heads at Fake News. Williams a libreak patsy just like Alan Combs used to be.
 

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LOL, dude you got punked.. Shep is no conservative.. You may as well have quoted Don Lemon.. ;)


Tim-

Um, you understand this isn't Shep's opinion, right?
 

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LOL, dude you got punked.. Shep is no conservative.. You may as well have quoted Don Lemon.. ;)


Tim-

Who do you a consider conservative?Shep Smith currently serves as the chief news anchor and managing editor for the network's breaking news division on Fox News.:roll:
 

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At what point does one wonder what Shep Smith has on the higher-ups at Fox News?
 

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QUOTE=Born Free

Obamafail could not take ISIS out and under his watch they were the JV Team. But to compare there is hardly any ISIS left.

BO didn't say that ISIS was nearly wiped out.:roll:



The Russians meddling in elections has been going on for decades. And Obamafail knew it and did nothing to stop it.

WE got proof that they were meddling in the 2016 and the mid-term election.


Be specific, what foreign policies did Smith contradict?????


I suggest t that you watch the video and get back to me.




There you leftie liberals go again with your Maybe, I think, could be, might be, will likely etc etc. That means they don't know anything.

WTF are you talking about!:doh


Tell me what is left of ISIS? Be specific

On January 15, 2018, two suicide bombings took place at al-Tayaran Square of Baghdad, killing 38 people and injuring more than 105 others. ISIL claimed responsibility.

On 24 January 2018, militants affiliated with Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – Khorasan Province launched a bomb and gun attack on a Save the Children office in Jalalabad, a city in the eastern Afghan province of Nangarhar, killing six people and injuring 27.

On November 9, 2018, A Somali man set on fire his car and then started stabbing people killing one and injuring 2 the attacker was later killed, ISIL claimed responsibility for the attack and the man also supported ISIL

On November 2, 2018, multiple gunmen opened fire on a bus in Minya carrying christian Copts, the attack killed 7 and injured 14, ISIL also claimed responsibility for the attack.

an. 28, 2019

BANGKOK — A deadly bombing of a cathedral in the Philippines has brought fresh attention to the Islamic State’s ability to metastasize across the world, even as the militant group has been reduced to a sliver of turf in Syria.





A person would have to be brain dead to think a wall does not work and that it is immoral.


"A person would have to be brain-dead to think"that with 90%+ of the illegals coming in thru ports of entry that a wall is going to stop them.



Thousand of ISIS fighters, how many thousands??????

Like I said watch the video.


Last Smith is a liberal and the way he twist the Truth he belongs with CNN, MSNBC or BuzzFeed


He is also "serves as the chief news anchor and managing editor for the network's breaking news division." Do you always think someone that don't agree with your way of thinking is a lib? Go to my wall and see what my creditably is.:2wave:
 

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It has got to sting when even Partisan Fox news Shep Smith rebukes your foreign policy. So much for "ISIS[FONT=&] is defeated[/FONT]".:roll:
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Is this your first time you read something that Sheppy said about Trump?!?

As a liberal you should really tune in into Sheppy's hour ... it's right up your alley.

:lamo
 

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You got it backwards, they don't trust us. Did you read my link, Obama lied. As for taking someone's words, it was Obama that put down the RED LINE that Syria walked all over and Trump had to fix it. Christ Obamafail was all over the news saying he put down the RED LINE. But the coward did nothing.

So that's a yes, you trust the Saudis. Got it.
 

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Is this your first time you read something that Sheppy said about Trump?!?

As a liberal you should really tune in into Sheppy's hour ... it's right up your alley.

:lamo

What's parts "right up your alley?":2wave:
 
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