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Apparently there is no shame in trumpville tonight,
When the fox opinion clowns outright lie to their audience with righteous indignation. There is bias and then there is outright friggin lying. Seems tucker and the gang have no problems with it.
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Ah, Trump never said, "Hey Gordon, This is a quid pro quo." Therefore there was not? How do you get through the day without making inferences, or perceiving reality?
Sondland clarified later that it was the whitehouse meeting that he had first hand knowledge was conditioned on the announcement of the investigations trump wanted.
But I'm sure you knew that.
Don't know, you'd be a better source to ask if that is the actual case.
Someone asked you? Or you think you're helping your buddy?
So now you're combating the problem that Sondland was, or wasn't lying.
Because he's already stated that Trump wanted nothing, and we know that no investigation was announced. Which all of the quid pro quo is still his own assumption.
So which is it, is he lying, or not?
False choice. He also said that trump just said that. He didn't say he believed him.
And the money got freed up before Zelenskyy was supposed to do the announcement on CNN. Because the cat was out of the bag.
So he didn't do it.
And he and others testified that the whitehouse meeting was absolutely contingent on announcing the investigations.
Didn't they tell you that on Fox?
Of course they didn't.
The republicans had no interest in the truth, they were just there to defend trump.
They were generating soundbites for conservative media. Managing their narratives.
And y'all fell for it hook line and sinker..
If you were teenage girls you'd all he pregnant by now
This modern form of conservatism could not exist without being based on lies.
Then there's this:
Sondland admits there is no evidence of any quid pro quo tying aid to any investigations.
That it was HIS "presumption" while admitting no actual knowledge of "quid pro quo."
Yes, he certainly alleged it in his opening statement. Then, completely ignored by most of the MSM, but not by FOX, he later indicates that was just his "presumption" with no factual basis at all.
at least there's an alternative to the other liars.
Now, what is this about? Are we to sit through 2 videos to find out who said what? Some OP we got here. Outrage dejour, no time for words.
Apparently there is no shame in trumpville tonight,
When the fox opinion clowns outright lie to their audience with righteous indignation. There is bias and then there is outright friggin lying. Seems tucker and the gang have no problems with it.
In Sondland's full testament it was made clear that there was no 'quid pro quo' ordered by the president, it was his 'presumption' that there was.
This presumption of his also flies in the face of the content of a conversation between Trump and Sondland where 'I want nothing from Ukraine', 'Zelenski should do the right thing', and 'No quid pro quo' were in fact stated by the president.
I think you need to be mad at CNN only giving you the part of the story and the part of the facts that CNN agrees with.
tragically when confronted with the fact that Sondland made it perfectly clear, you revert to parroting republican weaselling.
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Apparently there are no brains in Hate Trumpville……………...
Seeing as no ones been able to actually establish a quid pro quo. I'm not really interested in this snake oil that you're currently trying to sell me.
Because this is actually just sad that you'd keep going on as such. Seeing as I watch not only these two networks, but three others, and keep track through several journalist who regularly report on such through Youtube. I'm more inclined to go with the consensus that such a establishment was ever found. Seeing as that requires Sondland's assumption of what happened to be true, and he's already admitted to Trump not wanting anything. So that knocks out the claims of quid pro quo and attempting to twist what little disengaged information you can together to make a point that serves your agenda. Only serves to reveal how desperate you are, not myself.
Seeing as quid pro quo isn't even illegal, I don't even really care either way. But the lot of you trying to actively lie through your teeth on a daily basis, is something that will only harm you in the long run and no one else.
Please, find another shtick.
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You are a crack up. You completely ignore his OWN WORDS when he said that was HIS PERCEPTION and that he LITERALLY never heard a single soul on the planet actually make the claim.
I swear...you people call TRUMP dishonest...
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No...what is amazing is how readily you folk sacrifice your integrity and regurgitate lies...things that you KNOW were proven to be lies...because it fits your partisan hatred. You have the very man you are citing stating SPECIFICALLY that he was SPECULATING...his opinion...and that NO ONE ever told him anything directly related to QPQ...and yet...Hahahahahaah. Its amazing what you guys will fall for. He clearly stated THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO. It was understood by everybody, period. And he implicated not only guiliani, but pompeo, mulvaney, perry, trump et.al. as they pursued a domestic political errand with a lowlife attempt at getting dirt on his main political opponent from a foreign power by mis-using the power of his office.
laughable.
Maybe you can't grasp that the guy at the heart of this whole thing said not one single person on earth said anything about quid pro quo involving an investigation, or anything.
Keep failing. The American public has noticed what the left is doing.
No...what is amazing is how readily you folk sacrifice your integrity and regurgitate lies...things that you KNOW were proven to be lies...because it fits your partisan hatred. You have the very man you are citing stating SPECIFICALLY that he was SPECULATING...his opinion...and that NO ONE ever told him anything directly related to QPQ...and yet...
you keep repeating the lies.
Thats not laughable. Its pathetic.
It's good to see that the leftist on this thread are only interested in throwing dirt and not addressing what was actually said by Sondland.
Sorry to burst your bubble everyone but Fox has taken the W on this one. As they called it correctly, because even Sondland stated it himself.
Quid pro quo was his assumption, and even Trump himself stated that he wanted nothing, as per Sodland himself.
The rest of you can cry about Fox being right all you like. It does not change what everyone know's to have happened.
Its rather comical. Turner blasted the rats for doing precisely what they did, what everyone knew they were doing, what everyone knew CNN would do, and what people like you would eagerly swallow.Yes it is pathetic that you can't put two and two together, nor identify the line of questioning as a standard cross examination ploy. The fact remains that it was understood by everyone. One person with first hand direct knowledge of the president demanding the quid pro quo is Nick Mulvaney who testified to it on national television, yet he and the other senior members (direct reports) of the administration involved in this clustermuck are refusing to testify.
I do agree the dear leader is concerned about corruption tho. His becoming even more public than it already is.
So you think the DNC server is at the crowdstrike home office in Ukraine, owned by "one of your rich guys"?
So you think the DNC server is at the crowdstrike home office in Ukraine, owned by "one of your rich guys"?
Its rather comical. Turner blasted the rats for doing precisely what they did, what everyone knew they were doing, what everyone knew CNN would do, and what people like you would eagerly swallow.
And you did.
No...what is amazing is how readily you folk sacrifice your integrity and regurgitate lies...things that you KNOW were proven to be lies...because it fits your partisan hatred. You have the very man you are citing stating SPECIFICALLY that he was SPECULATING...his opinion...and that NO ONE ever told him anything directly related to QPQ...and yet...
you keep repeating the lies.
Thats not laughable. Its pathetic.
you talk of scripts...yet that is precisely what they did to you. They elicited a response that was NOT true, ran to the press who coordinate their comments KNOWING people like you would swallow eagerly...then had that 'truth' which you cling to OBLITERATED...yet...they knew that all you would hear was the lies they spoon fed you.it is rather comical since you and fox are playing to the script. Turner pulled an age old courtroom tactic. Fact you fell for it is not surprising.
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