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Fox: Biased? Or Deceptive?

As an outsider, I see corporations fighting for viewers, and Fox is winning, you are all just pawns in this big game to sell your burgers and colas, it's funny to watch you Americans, hahahaha!:mrgreen:

It's funny to watch you Europeans in this big game to sell your wines and cheeses, having naps in the middle of the work day, and adopting socialism as a band-aid remedy over your hemorrhaging Muslim problem. hahahaha!:mrgreen:
 
It's funny to watch you Europeans in this big game to sell your wines and cheeses, having naps in the middle of the work day, and adopting socialism as a band-aid remedy over your hemorrhaging Muslim problem. hahahaha!:mrgreen:

Well if you actually start listening to people you would understand that almost 20 million muslim in a population of 500 million is not a muslim problem, not even a case worth mentioning.
Whats more problematic about our 5% muslims than your 15% black population. You are prejudice towards muslims in general, not just the ones who deserve it.
 
Well if you actually start listening to people you would understand that almost 20 million muslim in a population of 500 million is not a muslim problem, not even a case worth mentioning.
Whats more problematic about our 5% muslims than your 15% black population. You are prejudice towards muslims in general, not just the ones who deserve it.

Tell that to France. Be soft about doing it though lest they offer a surrender before the conversation gets started. :lol:
 
It's funny to watch you Europeans in this big game to sell your wines and cheeses, having naps in the middle of the work day, and adopting socialism as a band-aid remedy over your hemorrhaging Muslim problem. hahahaha!:mrgreen:

Hahahaha, yes, you do know Europe, that is why I am here, to be educated in capitalism, one day I hope to own a McDonalds in Germany!:mrgreen:
 
Hahahaha, yes, you do know Europe, that is why I am here, to be educated in capitalism, one day I hope to own a McDonalds in Germany!:mrgreen:

Will it be the first to sell sauerkraut on a big mac and beer on the value menu? :mrgreen:
 
Will it be the first to sell sauerkraut on a big mac and beer on the value menu? :mrgreen:


Yes, I would like to sell beer, you would not believe how popular this McDonalds is in Germany!
 
Tell that to France. Be soft about doing it though lest they offer a surrender before the conversation gets started. :lol:

France don't have a problem with Muslims, that must have been something you have seen of Fox news in that case. be critical when you take in information, filter it, don't just take everything that passes as facts, news channels are not lexicons. However, France do have a problem with youth unemployment which is the highest in Europe, this make the youth very unhappy, disillusioned and problematic. This was what the problems, protests and riots was all about, not Muslims. The people who participated were almost exclusively your people, but they were French, muslim, Africans, Asian, latinoe and all kind of people. The most notable thing about them was that the group of native French youngsters among them was very low, this however do not mean all were muslims. A majority as far as I have heard was second generation black Africans, not muslims. The riots was not about muslims it was about the situation of youths in France, MOSTLY second/third generation immigrant youth.
 
Yes, I would like to sell beer, you would not believe how popular this McDonalds is in Germany!

I don't understand that...you guys have such good cuisine there...why would anyone waste their time with McDonald's?

By the way, I appreciate your sense of humor. A lot of people on here would have gone berserk over my comment. :cheers:
 
France don't have a problem with Muslims, that must have been something you have seen of Fox news in that case. be critical when you take in information, filter it, don't just take everything that passes as facts, news channels are not lexicons. However, France do have a problem with youth unemployment which is the highest in Europe, this make the youth very unhappy, disillusioned and problematic. This was what the problems, protests and riots was all about, not Muslims. The people who participated were almost exclusively your people, but they were French, muslim, Africans, Asian, latinoe and all kind of people. The most notable thing about them was that the group of native French youngsters among them was very low, this however do not mean all were muslims. A majority as far as I have heard was second generation black Africans, not muslims. The riots was not about muslims it was about the situation of youths in France, MOSTLY second/third generation immigrant youth.

Wrong, the French hate Muslims, they talk about them behind their back all the time, trust me, I know, are you from Europe?
 
Will it be the first to sell sauerkraut on a big mac and beer on the value menu? :mrgreen:

Unfortunately for American companies Europeans have a love for good food.
Most Europeans prefer a nice restaurant to some cheap, sleazy American eating place. I rarely see a Mcdonals in Europe except in the Netherlands who have a love for fast food. I believe there are no Macdonals in brussels, maybe thats where you should own one?
 
I don't understand that...you guys have such good cuisine there...why would anyone waste their time with McDonald's?

By the way, I appreciate your sense of humor. A lot of people on here would have gone berserk over my comment. :cheers:

Hahaha, my life is good, I don't have a reason to get "beserk" I love America, so do my family, we are very happy with our lives now. We love everything American, we don't have the creativity you people have, it's all the same old stuff!
 
Unfortunately for American companies Europeans have a love for good food.
Most Europeans prefer a nice restaurant to some cheap, sleazy American eating place. I rarely see a Mcdonals in Europe except in the Netherlands who have a love for fast food. I believe there are no Macdonals in brussels, maybe thats where you should own one?

You are not telling the truth, there are McDonalds everywhere, and it's not our only place, but we like the idea of it, it's new, we don't get much new things
 
Hahaha, my life is good, I don't have a reason to get "beserk" I love America, so do my family, we are very happy with our lives now. We love everything American, we don't have the creativity you people have, it's all the same old stuff!

So...are you living in America right now or still over in Germany?
 
I am at North Western University, in Chicago, I love it!

That's great!!! Chicago is a great city...I have a very good friend who is an interior designer there. I love to go visit her and take in the rich music scene they have. I am really glad you like it...I have to say though...not everywhere in America is like where you are. Feel blessed that you are in such a good part of the US.
 
Unfortunately for American companies Europeans have a love for good food.
Most Europeans prefer a nice restaurant to some cheap, sleazy American eating place. I rarely see a Mcdonals in Europe except in the Netherlands who have a love for fast food. I believe there are no Macdonals in brussels, maybe thats where you should own one?

Bullshit bullshit bullshit! I've been to Europe and I've seen the McDonald's there, the UK, France, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, and Lichtenstein.
 
Bullshit bullshit bullshit! I've been to Europe and I've seen the McDonald's there, the UK, France, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, and Lichtenstein.

I didnt say there wasnt MacDonals, I am just saying its not on every corner like in the US, MCdonals, Wendy, Dennys, Burger King, Pizza Hut, Taco bell, KFC and all of this. In holland its noticable but in most other European countries, not so noticeable. I was generalizing. Europeans dont prefer junfood like Americans.
 
I didnt say there wasnt MacDonals, I am just saying its not on every corner like in the US, MCdonals, Wendy, Dennys, Burger King, Pizza Hut, Taco bell, KFC and all of this. In holland its noticable but in most other European countries, not so noticeable. I was generalizing. Europeans dont prefer junfood like Americans.

But we getting there thats for sure. On the Coasta you got a BK and McD every few miles on the coast road heh. Granted its one of the biggest tourist areas on the planet. In land they are only in the really big cities. Same in Denmark, really only the major cities.
 
But we getting there thats for sure. On the Coasta you got a BK and McD every few miles on the coast road heh. Granted its one of the biggest tourist areas on the planet. In land they are only in the really big cities. Same in Denmark, really only the major cities.

True, but it depends on where you are. In many large European cities, especially in the north its virtually impossible to find American junkfood. Paris for one is one of the worst places for American junkfood, however they have their french junkfood, paninies, fatty salads etc.
 
France don't have a problem with Muslims, that must have been something you have seen of Fox news in that case. be critical when you take in information, filter it, don't just take everything that passes as facts, news channels are not lexicons. However, France do have a problem with youth unemployment which is the highest in Europe, this make the youth very unhappy, disillusioned and problematic. This was what the problems, protests and riots was all about, not Muslims. The people who participated were almost exclusively your people, but they were French, muslim, Africans, Asian, latinoe and all kind of people. The most notable thing about them was that the group of native French youngsters among them was very low, this however do not mean all were muslims. A majority as far as I have heard was second generation black Africans, not muslims. The riots was not about muslims it was about the situation of youths in France, MOSTLY second/third generation immigrant youth.

Saying France and Europe in General doesn't have a Muslim problem is like saying America doesn't have an illegal immigration problem. It is at it's best unrealistic and at it's worse a crock of **** pushed by people who just love to lie to themselves. What happened in Europe when the cartoons of the Great Prophet Muhammad, All blessings be upon his name, were published? The extremist side of Islam came out and Europeans like always apologized. For what? For their right to freedom of speech. The same right you afford the extremist Muslims in your country. The same right they use to cheer for the enemies who have sworn to kill your women and children. Your Danish and Norwegian embassies were set on fire and what did you do? You apologized.
 
Saying France and Europe in General doesn't have a Muslim problem is like saying America doesn't have an illegal immigration problem. It is at it's best unrealistic and at it's worse a crock of **** pushed by people who just love to lie to themselves.

Well they dont, there is no muslim problem. Most people in Europe dont give a **** about muslims, much less offers them a second of thought during the day. The muslim population in Europe is a tiny minority, much smaller than the black population in the US for example. You tell me then, what is the muslim problem in Europe pushed by fox news in the US? 5% of the population is muslim, about 60% of those are well adapted and have jobs and functions like any normal European. So whats the "problem" then with the remaining 40% which makes up 3-4 million muslims in Europe? What kind of fantasy problem is that hatuey? Europe have lots of problems, muslims are not one of them, they have absolutely no influence in Europe whatsoever just to counter your beliefs that Europe is overrun by muslims and becoming 100% muslim.

What happened in Europe when the cartoons of the Great Prophet Muhammad, All blessings be upon his name, were published? The extremist side of Islam came out and Europeans like always apologized. For what? For their right to freedom of speech. The same right you afford the extremist Muslims in your country. The same right they use to cheer for the enemies who have sworn to kill your women and children. Your Danish and Norwegian embassies were set on fire and what did you do? You apologized.

Norway isnt a part of the European Union. The European Union and the countries withing apologized if it was offensive to muslims but they defended their right to freedom of speech. This means that they said, we have all rights to say whatever we want, but if this was offensive to you we apologize. This is the only right thing to do, you dont just go around and offend people without apologizing. There was absolutely no compromise to our freedom of speech. I can go on TV in Europe and call all muslims retarded if I so want, but that will of course offend them, its just not polite. The Danish embassies were set on fire yes, and the rest of Europe stood behind denmark, security was increased and so fourth.

If a guy in America(a politician for example) calls black people "niggers" in public(on national tv), he probably have to apoligize or face heavy scrutiny, this however doesnt compromise freedom of speech, its only polite to say sorry for something like that. Wouldnt you have reacted a little at least if someone drew jesus on the cross with a big erection? Or somone drew jesus with a bomb strapped to his chest or something similar? I completely understand the that the muslims reacted, but I agree they overreacted like they always do when their extreme conservatism is challenged.

There is no muslim problem, thats just American fantasy. Most European dont give a fu** about muslims or terrorist. This is just some kind of crazy American obsession after 911.
 
That depends if the guy using the "N" word is white. Blacks are free to use the word as they please and can hardly communicate without doing so in some areas.

As Americans, we can pick and choose from many media outlets as to where we get our news from around the world and thusly be "informed." We mostly pick the channel that tells us what we wanna hear. And since perception is reality, our reality is largely based on the what the media thinks we should think and therefore too many of us hardly have a clue.

I suppose that goes for me as well. :roll:
 
Saying France and Europe in General doesn't have a Muslim problem is like saying America doesn't have an illegal immigration problem. It is at it's best unrealistic and at it's worse a crock of **** pushed by people who just love to lie to themselves. What happened in Europe when the cartoons of the Great Prophet Muhammad, All blessings be upon his name, were published? The extremist side of Islam came out and Europeans like always apologized. For what? For their right to freedom of speech. The same right you afford the extremist Muslims in your country. The same right they use to cheer for the enemies who have sworn to kill your women and children. Your Danish and Norwegian embassies were set on fire and what did you do? You apologized.

We appologized? How so?

We defended the right of our media to print or say whatever they wanted, but some politicans and people did not agree with what the media did. Is that appologizing? If memory serves me right, the US goverment and politicans did not agree with what the media did, but they also defended the right of the media to do so.. were they appologizing also?

Yes the Danish missions in certain countries were attacked and some burned. Each country where it happened in appologized to the Danes for letting it happen and have somewhat paid for the damages. We did not appologize one bit, we in fact condemed those who did it and the goverments who let them do it.... the only ones who did appologize or at best were very silent were the Danish companies who were being boycotted (which they are not anymore btw).

Europe does not have a large scale muslim problem, its a neo con anti Europe fantasy promoted by radical right wing shock jocks, politicans and the Fox News organisation. Its the usual right wing tactic of blaming others or inventing "issues" with others, so that you ignore your own problems.

But thats not saying we dont have problems with parts of the population that happen to be muslim, but also include christians and athiests and probally other faiths too. But the US has issues with various parts of its population, black and hispanic, and they are christian and muslim too. Does that mean you have a christian and muslim problem?

As Americans, we can pick and choose from many media outlets as to where we get our news from around the world and thusly be "informed." We mostly pick the channel that tells us what we wanna hear. And since perception is reality, our reality is largely based on the what the media thinks we should think and therefore too many of us hardly have a clue.

And that is the problem... the media tailoring their news to suit a demographic, because that demographic "likes" what its hearing. Not saying it dont happen in Europe, but not on the same scale.

And we in Europe probally have more News channels than the US has. To name a few, BBC 24, BBC World, Sky News, CNN Internation, Fox News, Euronews, France 24, Al Jazerra, Russia Today, CCTV and thats just the english language ones.. on top of that there are 2 or 3 German langauge, a few french, at least 2 spanish and so on. And thats News channels only.. then there are the national and local broadcasters who have news shows and so on. So dont think for a second that European media and espeically news is "controlled" or "few in numbers".
 
the only ones who did appologize or at best were very silent were the Danish companies who were being boycotted (which they are not anymore btw).

I just want to mention that the muslim boycott of Danish companies had absolutely no effect. First of all it didnt work, people were not really boycotting them, secondly the muslims country customers to danish companies are so small that even if all sales stopped to them it would only be a marginal difference.
 
We appologized? How so?

We defended the right of our media to print or say whatever they wanted, but some politicans and people did not agree with what the media did. Is that appologizing? If memory serves me right, the US goverment and politicans did not agree with what the media did, but they also defended the right of the media to do so.. were they appologizing also?

Yes the Danish missions in certain countries were attacked and some burned. Each country where it happened in appologized to the Danes for letting it happen and have somewhat paid for the damages. We did not appologize one bit, we in fact condemed those who did it and the goverments who let them do it.... the only ones who did appologize or at best were very silent were the Danish companies who were being boycotted (which they are not anymore btw).

In our opinion, the 12 drawings were sober. They were not intended to be offensive, nor were they at variance with Danish law, but they have indisputably offended many Muslims for which we apologize.

Meninger Jyllands-Posten

Europe does not have a large scale muslim problem, its a neo con anti Europe fantasy promoted by radical right wing shock jocks, politicans and the Fox News organisation. Its the usual right wing tactic of blaming others or inventing "issues" with others, so that you ignore your own problems.

Sigh. When will people see it?

2005 civil unrest in France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Third Night of Ramadan Rioting in Capital of Europe | The Brussels Journal

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZiYQbhRpSY[/YOUTUBE]

If only it wasn't happening and I was just imagining it. But it is.

But thats not saying we dont have problems with parts of the population that happen to be muslim, but also include christians and athiests and probally other faiths too. But the US has issues with various parts of its population, black and hispanic, and they are christian and muslim too. Does that mean you have a christian and muslim problem?

Hmmm...I don't see our Muslims, Christians destroying 1,000 cars over cartoons or 2 Muslim kids being electrocuted. The most we get is race riots. Thats one ever...7-8 years? We let them run wild and put it down in 2-3 days. Can you say the same? :)

And that is the problem... the media tailoring their news to suit a demographic, because that demographic "likes" what its hearing. Not saying it dont happen in Europe, but not on the same scale.

Yup. You're right. It's the media...wait a minute...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LIAuCJptpA[/YOUTUBE]

And we in Europe probally have more News channels than the US has. To name a few, BBC 24, BBC World, Sky News, CNN Internation, Fox News, Euronews, France 24, Al Jazerra, Russia Today, CCTV and thats just the english language ones.. on top of that there are 2 or 3 German langauge, a few french, at least 2 spanish and so on. And thats News channels only.. then there are the national and local broadcasters who have news shows and so on. So dont think for a second that European media and espeically news is "controlled" or "few in numbers".

So basically you believe that somehow it is all being fabricated?
 
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