Contrarian said:Our President seems to forget that this is a SECULAR country, of many races, religions and beliefs, and we should be fighting terrorism as AMERICANS not as a "Christian" country. It is polarizing.
Montalban said:Yes, they could. The great Scottish philosopher Hume was a well-known atheist. He was also a 'liberal' who supported slavery; the idea being that no one had the right to interfere with another's property (including slavery).
jcueckert13 said:the founding fathers may not have been religous people but they did base the laws of the country on the values taught by christianity.
jcueckert13 said:and as i recall george bush did show how open minded he is by selibrating ramadon(sp?) in the white house.
littlebitbratte said:Yep. They could.
"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no gods."
Both of those are quotes from personal writings of Thomas Jefferson.
I don't know, how many?Quertol said:That may be so, but how many atheists were in America in the late 1700's?
galenrox said:Excuse me, but how in the hell is the ACLU attacking religious freedoms? Freedoms meaning what you personally are free to do. They attack people being forced to practice any act of a faith they do not adhere to, such as atheists being forced to participate in prayer in public school. A kid can pray in school as much as s/he wants, and I can promise you the ACLU has no problem with that, it's when a kid is forced to participate in prayer when the kid is a non-believer that the ACLU steps in and solves the problems.
So please, tell me, how in the hell is the ACLU attacking your religious freedom, cause I'm a card carrying member of the ACLU, and the main thing we've been fighting for for the last several years is religious freedom. That means all religions, I'm not sure if you understood that.
No, the ACLU promotes the seperation of church and state and makes sure the government promotes no religions. If you can show me where the ACLU is saying that there is no god, you could make your point valid.cavehunter said:The ACLU promotes atheism. At school we have to treat everything as !though there is no God. You may say that atheism is neutral ground among many religions. It is not! It has its own beliefs. Its beliefs are: there is no God, no good or evil so do whatever, and the Big Bang started it all.
The ACLU promotes atheism.
shuamort said:No, the ACLU promotes the seperation of church and state and makes sure the government promotes no religions. If you can show me where the ACLU is saying that there is no god, you could make your point valid.