Former Marine on Police State Build up: Government Fears the People (1 Viewer)

[Wehrwolfen]

Crowd erupts after former Marine Colonel says U.S. building up domestic army because it fears its own people​

August 16th, 2013

We all remember Obama’s comments from 2008 about some kind of brown shirt domestic military force that’s just as well equipped and funded as our foreign military force. Well, a former Marine colonel told a local city council meeting in Concord, N.H. that he believes that the federal government is indeed building a domestic force and he’s surprised the rest of us cannot see it. Given Obama’s statement from 2008 and the vehicle and ammunition purchases we’ve read about, it’s hard to say this is exactly conspiracy territory. The people in the room sure didn’t think so as they erupted in cheers when he was done speaking.

But I will say this. If you are expecting some kind of nationwide attack on the American people where US domestic soldiers are going to bust down your door and take you as a political prisoner and lock you up in hidden political prison or something, you might be watching a little too much Alex Jones.

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Well, that's one way to get around Posse Comitatus.

 

[Montecresto]

Can you offer up for all of us here just what the purpose of this domestic force, as well equipped as the army might be being assembled for?

 

[Bob N]

But I will say this. If you are expecting some kind of nationwide attack on the American people where US domestic soldiers are going to bust down your door and take you as a political prisoner and lock you up in hidden political prison or something, you might be watching a little too much Alex Jones.

This sort of stuff was talked about when George Jr. was in office; it had as much weight then as it does now. :roll:

 

[Wehrwolfen]

This sort of stuff was talked about when George Jr. was in office; it had as much weight then as it does now. :roll:

Yes, I remember it well, The Left claimed that Bush ripped up the Constitution. That was also found to be a lie of the Progressive Left. However, now we find that everything the Progressive Left accused Bush of is happening today under the auspices of Barak Obama. Remember when The PL cried and whined about the FISA laws? What have they done about it? Why does Homeland Security need 4 million rounds of ammunition? Why do they need armored HumVees and other heavy weapon vehicles? If what you claim is true how do you explain my questions to you?

 

[Montecresto]

Yes, I remember it well, The Left claimed that Bush ripped up the Constitution. That was also found to be a lie of the Progressive Left. However, now we find that everything the Progressive Left accused Bush of is happening today under the auspices of Barak Obama. Remember when The PL cried and whined about the FISA laws? What have they done about it? Why does Homeland Security need 4 million rounds of ammunition? Why do they need armored HumVees and other heavy weapon vehicles? If what you claim is true how do you explain my questions to you?

Yes it happened during Bush's administration as well and it was bad then, what's your point? It was bad then it's bad now. Lets not be partisan, this **** needs to stop!

 

[Bob N]

Yes, I remember it well, The Left claimed that Bush ripped up the Constitution. That was also found to be a lie of the Progressive Left. However, now we find that everything the Progressive Left accused Bush of is happening today under the auspices of Barak Obama. Remember when The PL cried and whined about the FISA laws? What have they done about it? Why does Homeland Security need 4 million rounds of ammunition? Why do they need armored HumVees and other heavy weapon vehicles? If what you claim is true how do you explain my questions to you?

I can explain that just as much as George W. Bush was able to explain why he needed to invade Iraq over weapons of mass destruction. But that's government for ya; ain't it weird? :shrug:

 

[Wehrwolfen]

I can explain that just as much as George W. Bush was able to explain why he needed to invade Iraq over weapons of mass destruction. But that's government for ya; ain't it weird? :shrug:

Tsk, tsk, tsk. That was then, this is now. You sound like Kerry, you were for it then and you're against it now. BTW talk to Bubba Clinton on why he whined about WMD for years and even bombed Iraq without Congressional Authority. Guess you overlooked the tail wagged the dog.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Yes it happened during Bush's administration as well and it was bad then, what's your point? It was bad then it's bad now. Lets not be partisan, this **** needs to stop!

You're right. However why is it that now NSA and FISA revelations are proving to be much worse than in the Bush era, and FISA was modified under Obama. I don't remember the purchase of up armored HumVees for Police use, or ordering millions of rounds of ammunition by HS? Please tell me I'm wrong. Then there's those phony scandals like Fast & Furious, Benghazi, NSA and the IRS thing. I might be wrong but I think the stonewalling and cover-up on each of these scandals is worse than the initial illegal actions.

 

[shrubnose]

Crowd erupts after former Marine Colonel says U.S. building up domestic army because it fears its own people

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This is all total B.S, I'm not going to ask you to provide some reliable proof for the malarkey that you have posted here because past experience with you tells me that you don't have any.

Keep spreading that hate and fear. It's the one thing that you have a little talent for.








August 16th, 2013

We all remember Obama’s comments from 2008 about some kind of brown shirt domestic military force that’s just as well equipped and funded as our foreign military force. Well, a former Marine colonel told a local city council meeting in Concord, N.H. that he believes that the federal government is indeed building a domestic force and he’s surprised the rest of us cannot see it. Given Obama’s statement from 2008 and the vehicle and ammunition purchases we’ve read about, it’s hard to say this is exactly conspiracy territory. The people in the room sure didn’t think so as they erupted in cheers when he was done speaking.

But I will say this. If you are expecting some kind of nationwide attack on the American people where US domestic soldiers are going to bust down your door and take you as a political prisoner and lock you up in hidden political prison or something, you might be watching a little too much Alex Jones.

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Well, that's one way to get around Posse Comitatus.

"Better days are coming." ~ But not for todays out of touch, running out of time, GOP.

 

[shrubnose]

You're right. However why is it that now NSA and FISA revelations are proving to be much worse than in the Bush era, and FISA was modified under Obama. I don't remember the purchase of up armored HumVees for Police use, or ordering millions of rounds of ammunition by HS? Please tell me I'm wrong. Then there's those phony scandals like Fast & Furious, Benghazi, NSA and the IRS thing.

I might be wrong

but I think the stonewalling and cover-up on each of these scandals is worse than the initial illegal actions.

Wrong.

You are wrong, you're always wrong, you've never been correct yet.

You have an unblemished record of posting totally fact-free, far-right propaganda.

We need to see about getting you some kind of award.

 

[TheNextEra]

Yes, I remember it well, The Left claimed that Bush ripped up the Constitution. That was also found to be a lie of the Progressive Left. However, now we find that everything the Progressive Left accused Bush of is happening today under the auspices of Barak Obama. Remember when The PL cried and whined about the FISA laws? What have they done about it? Why does Homeland Security need 4 million rounds of ammunition? Why do they need armored HumVees and other heavy weapon vehicles? If what you claim is true how do you explain my questions to you?

As I posted in another thread, BOTH sides are privy to hypocrisy. Many on the left said that Bush was overstepping his bounds, while many on the right supported what Bush did (They voted for him twice). Now that the shoes on the other foot and there is a Dem president we see many on the left supporting what Obama is doing (They voted for him twice) while the right are saying Obama is overtepping his bounds.

Both sides are hypocritical in this matter in that when "their" side is in power it isn't wrong.

 

[TheNextEra]

Tsk, tsk, tsk. That was then, this is now. You sound like Kerry, you were for it then and you're against it now. BTW talk to Bubba Clinton on why he whined about WMD for years and even bombed Iraq without Congressional Authority. Guess you overlooked the tail wagged the dog.

Vice-versa the right supported this under Bush (they voted for him twice). So why is it wrong now?

 

[ttwtt78640]

This sort of stuff was talked about when George Jr. was in office; it had as much weight then as it does now. :roll:

But, as ususal, once a federal program is established it will grow. It was never "right" but saying that a little of something was seen as good so more of it must be even better is simply insane.

 

[Peter King]

Can you offer up for all of us here just what the purpose of this domestic force, as well equipped as the army might be being assembled for?

Or any evidence of such an domestic army.

Anyway, the US government does not need a domestic force when they have the Natural Guard, police forces in the entire country (among them loads of swat teams) and not to forget the US army itself. The US army has more than 1 million troops stationed in the US or the territories of the US.

 

[Montecresto]

No, there definitely is a domestic security force being created and Obama called for it during his 2008 bid for the presidency.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

No, there definitely is a domestic security force being created and Obama called for it during his 2008 bid for the presidency.

What is the need for a domestic security force when counties, cities and states have their own police forces along with State National Guard? Are we allowed to question this action as a free people, while our Constitution is under attack? Shouldn't we be questioning the actions of this president and his regime, that may in the future infringe on our freedoms?

 

[Montecresto]

The Marine Colonel received more support than he did criticism for his warning of a DHS army, so good for him bringing it up in a public forum.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

The Marine Colonel received more support than he did criticism for his warning of a DHS army, so good for him bringing it up in a public forum.

Not according the those of the Progressive Left. All anyone has to do is read the responses of the Elitist Left.

 

[Montecresto]

Oh yeah I know, but I didn't mean here, I meant at the town meeting.

 

[Peter King]

Or any evidence of such an domestic army.

Anyway, the US government does not need a domestic force when they have the Natural Guard, police forces in the entire country (among them loads of swat teams) and not to forget the US army itself. The US army has more than 1 million troops stationed in the US or the territories of the US.

Sorry, what a blunder of mine, I meant to write National Guard. I do not know where my mind was. Must have been because I did not sleep last night due to facial pains. But my message stays the same, with the national guard (almost 500,000), the FBI (36,000), Federal Bureau of Prisons (23,500), United States Marshals Service (4,000), State and local law enforcement in the USA (1,100,000) and the US armed forces stationed in the USA (more than 1,100,000).

That is a government force of more than 2,750,000 men and women. There is just no way the US government needs additional troops in the US.

 

[Montecresto]

Sorry, what a blunder of mine, I meant to write National Guard. I do not know where my mind was. Must have been because I did not sleep last night due to facial pains. But my message stays the same, with the national guard (almost 500,000), the FBI (36,000), Federal Bureau of Prisons (23,500), United States Marshals Service (4,000), State and local law enforcement in the USA (1,100,000) and the US armed forces stationed in the USA (more than 1,100,000).

That is a government force of more than 2,750,000 men and women. There is just no way the US government needs additional troops in the US.

I think we agree with you Peter that its not needed, but its being developed just the same and its not a good thing.

 

[Fenton]

The Government SHOULD be afraid of the people, not the other way around.

Obama's administration has been the girst to target specific Americans based on their ideology, using the power of the IRS to do so.

That plus the NSA's mistakes shows the totalitarian mindset of Obama's ideology.

It was a direct attempt to intimidate free Americans and it is unforgivable.

The lefties will continye to stone wall, claim the ordeal was blown out of proportion but the truth is the truth.

 

[Montecresto]

And the NSA and the DHS, and no doubt other ABC agencies.

 

[Peter King]

I think we agree with you Peter that its not needed, but its being developed just the same and its not a good thing.

but there is no, zero evidence that there is something like that being developed.

 

[Peter King]

The Government SHOULD be afraid of the people, not the other way around.

Obama's administration has been the girst to target specific Americans based on their ideology, using the power of the IRS to do so.

That plus the NSA's mistakes shows the totalitarian mindset of Obama's ideology.

It was a direct attempt to intimidate free Americans and it is unforgivable.

The lefties will continye to stone wall, claim the ordeal was blown out of proportion but the truth is the truth.

Governments should not be afraid of their people, the government is not the enemy of the people and the people are not the enemy of the government.

If that happens you get Egyptian like things, the armed government forces fighting against part of it's population. That is counter productive.

The only fear a government should have is that the citizens judge them through the only democratic way possible, by voting them out of government.

The NSA thing might not be the US governments finest thing, but in a post 9/11 world, as long as you do not engage in terrorist behavior you will have very little to fear from the NSA probes

Personally I would love to live in a world where the NSA program was not needed but for now this program is a necessary tool in the war on terror and as long as there is that imminent danger from terror we are going to have to learn to live with it.