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Ford confirms Playboy party: 'I like football and I like girls'

But there's a distinction to be drawn between a standard negative ad (like this one), and a negative ad that appeals to the most disgusting, basest instincts of people (like the one I mentioned).
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to me, whats disgusting is when people create things that simply arent there for political gain.

Jesse Jackson is a pro at this. Looks like you fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

Personally I don't like negative advertisements at all, but this ad is considerably less offensive than the other one.
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not really. I cant find the whole add. what I linked was just a part of it.

both ads are equally negative. its unfortunate you feel the need to create racism where it doesnt exist in order to claim one ad is worse than the other.
 
Stinger said:
Is that really what you think when you see that ad? That Ford is an uppity negro? Amazing. BTW it's not a Corker ad.
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I didnt think it was a Corker ad.
 
just to clarify.

I asked why you think Corker is a slimeball. you answered with

Just the way that he's conducted his campaign. It shows that he's petty, mean-spirited, and willing to say anything to win.
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and then you show us an ad that is NOT a Corker ad to support this assertion.......

and you act like my "apple doesnt fall far from the tree" logic isnt a good enough argument??? and tell me to "shut up"

lol.

alrighty then.
 
Since I don't actually care if a politician goes to eighteen strip clubs in a single night followed by cheating on his wife with three hookers while doing lines of coke off their backs, I just want to know one thing: did Ford make it part of his platform that going to such events like parties at the Playboy mansion was immoral?
 
Adrian said:
Since I don't actually care if a politician goes to eighteen strip clubs in a single night followed by cheating on his wife with three hookers while doing lines of coke off their backs, I just want to know one thing: did Ford make it part of his platform that going to such events like parties at the Playboy mansion was immoral?
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Ahhhh, you have hit upon something. It is the party of moral responsibility that still has it in their platform, while Foley and other scandals are happening all around them.

But the fact is, although you might not care what a politician does on the side, people in many states do care. That is why Corker wins the seat. I've got no axe to grind. I think the Republican party at this time is nothing but a collection of crooks, liars, and hypocrites (at least until the real Conservatives take the party back from the parasites that infest it). I base my prediction on real world events.
 
...The add was not racist. It certainly implied that ford was does bang slutty white chicks, but that was because of the whole playboy thing.

Frankly why do people care? Enjoying the company of attractive women is something that most men enjoy.
 
Ford is single and can do what he wants. I would be cool about the whole thing except he lied about it at first. flip floppah.
 
Kandahar said:
Absolutely. The national committees won't run ads that the candidates themselves don't like.
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Sorry, but this is completely and utterly untrue. It is a violation of federal law for candidates to have ANY input into ads produced by the parties and aired this close to the election. To avoid even the APPEARANCE of impropriety, the candidates are not allowed to see the ads before they air, nobody associated with their campaign can see them, and their complaints are generally payed little heed.

The fact that Corker came out this quickly to condemn the ad is a sign that he actually opposed it and didn't want it associated with his campaign.

Nice spin though.
 
danarhea said:
Ahhhh, you have hit upon something. It is the party of moral responsibility that still has it in their platform, while Foley and other scandals are happening all around them.
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Eh. While I'm perfectly aware that Republicans in general have tended to place themselves at the frontlines in the war for "decency," I try to take into consideration the individual's platforms. I have to give the benefit of the doubt that the politician may be a Republican of the old guard reasons rather than the rampant and hypocritical moralistic grandstanding that you see so often today. Which is why I was interested if Ford himself ran on a moralistic platform. If yes, then screw 'im. If not, then I for one can't be bothered to care what parties he goes to.

However, I could almost hear the sweat dripping from his face on Youtube when the caller asked him about his visit to the Playboy mansion party, which kind of suggests that he way trying to play the good church boy, in which case, screw him.
 
Kandahar said:
It had everything to do with race. The 30-second ad had 25 seconds of BS from uninteresting characters to mask the 5 seconds that the sexy (white) girl was there, flirting with Harold Ford.
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Why is that racist? You would object to him hanging out with white women?

The message was "Lock up your white women, Harold Ford is coming for them."
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Only in your mind.

Are you really telling me that you paid the slightest bit of attention to any other points being made by any of the other people in that ad?
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You're telling us they aren't? It's hillarious.

And no, it was an RNC ad.
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Not a Corker ad as you stated. And it was only funded as an independent ad by the RNC, once they give the money they have no say so, that's the new campaign law the left and the moderates sooooooooooo wanted. If the RNC tried to control the group that made it they would be in violation the law.


...and yet, the ad hasn't been removed. Surely the RNC would comply with the candidates wishes if he felt the ad was too sleazy.
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They have no say so and can't, welcome to campaign finance law.

(But if you maintain that there was nothing offensive about the ad, why do you think Bob Corker would be calling for its removal anyway?)
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Because the left will try to make a phoney issue out of it and cry and whine about it and he probably just doesn't want to deal with it.
 
akyron said:
Ford is single and can do what he wants. I would be cool about the whole thing except he lied about it at first. flip floppah.
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Any politician going and hanging out with Playboy in any fashsion is going to get reprocussions no matter from which side. It was the greatest PR move he could have made.
 
Stinger said:
Any politician going and hanging out with Playboy in any fashsion is going to get reprocussions no matter from which side. It was the greatest PR move he could have made.
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I agree. I dont think he should have denied it at all.
 
danarhea said:
And you can now give the election in Tennessee to John Corker. Ford had made it a close one, and was even slightly ahead, until this allegation came out. You can argue all day that it is a Republican dirty trick, but they didnt put a gun to Ford's head and make him go to that Playboy party, did they? Whether it was wrong for Ford to attend the party or not is immaterial. In a very Conservative state like Tennessee, what Ford did was stupid. He is now going to pay for that stupidity.

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Are you a prude? I wish I was there!
 
Most good ol' Tennesee boys would probably give a big ol' yaaahooo to a politician coming out and admitting he likes girls, (especially bunnies,) and football. A guy like that might very well get my vote.

Maybe nobody will say this, and perhaps I shouldn't either, but most of them folks down there just see a black man porkin' white girls in that scenerio. That is what the commercial was all about albeit in a subliminal way. Had the ditzy chick in the commercial been a black woman, he would have got his "yaaaahoooos". That black man/white chick thingy, well, some folks ain't ready for that yet in Tennessee.
 
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Originally Posted by Stinger
Any politician going and hanging out with Playboy in any fashsion is going to get reprocussions no matter from which side. It was the greatest PR move he could have made.


akyron said:
I agree. I dont think he should have denied it at all.
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Sorry I meant to say it WASN"T the best PR move he could have made. He still has to get votes of feminist and those whose religious beliefs would have objections, and that could be on both sides. It shows an arrogance and irresponsbility.
 
hipsterdufus said:
Are you a prude? I wish I was there!
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And you're not running for high public office are you. So go and have fun but don't run for a position of responsibility. It was stupid on his part.
 
danarhea said:
We are not talking about the world. We are talking about Tennessee, and that state has their idea of moral values, just as California has its own idea, Florida has its own idea, etc.

I am not posting about whether it is right or wrong to go to a Playboy mansion. I am posting on how stupid it was to go there, considering the moral climate of the state Ford lives in. If he wanted to be a Senator, this is something he should have considered.
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It was a party sponsored by Playboy at the Super Bowl, it was a Super Bowl party...

More importantly is the negative news that the race baiting ad generated all over the country. It's like the #1 watched thing on Your Tube right now...and it is being condemned universally for being a racist, evil and desperate attempt.
 
Stinger said:
Originally Posted by Stinger
Any politician going and hanging out with Playboy in any fashsion is going to get reprocussions no matter from which side. It was the greatest PR move he could have made.




Sorry I meant to say it WASN"T the best PR move he could have made. He still has to get votes of feminist and those whose religious beliefs would have objections, and that could be on both sides. It shows an arrogance and irresponsbility.
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Yeah. Appearances mean everything in a campaign. He should have avoided the problem entirely. After the fact he should not have denied it at first either.
 
akyron said:
Yeah. Appearances mean everything in a campaign. He should have avoided the problem entirely. After the fact he should not have denied it at first either.
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Bingo!!!! Someone gets what I have been saying.
 
DAMN Some of you who is bashing Senator Ford is freaks your damn self. What a person does afterhours is his or her business. Now onething I don't know is if Ford is married or not,but if he is married yes he was wrong, and again it all depends on his situation. So I guess Tennessee will be the next state to gets votes stolen from by the Republicians huh? Well I am involved in politics here in Michigan. I love to watch sexy women dance in the nude. The Green Bay Packers is my football team I root and hoot for, and I do not like another hardleg that has the samething I have. Go FORD Go, and some of these republicians need to follow your style. Many is either a had none lately, or in the need of some :rofl The man is honest about his private life, and the Bozo who thought that this would damage Ford was mistaken. Clinton got some head in office,but both of the Bush dudes started a war while in office, and I would. support Hillary if she ran.

Capt America said......Maybe nobody will say this, and perhaps I shouldn't either, but most of them folks down there just see a black man porkin' white girls in that scenerio. That is what the commercial was all about albeit in a subliminal way. Had the ditzy chick in the commercial been a black woman, he would have got his "yaaaahoooos". That black man/white chick thingy, well, some folks ain't ready for that yet in Tennessee. Well Captain do you think that Tennessee is ready for a White man/with a Black female?

I believe that Ford was shocked when he was confronted with the bullshit, and if the confront did not happen at the party I would have denyed it too. At least until I could get a grip on reality after a mind blowing event. Like Hipsterdufus said I wish I was there at the party also.:rock
 
"Now one thing I don't know is if Ford is married or not,but if he is married yes he was wrong, and again it all depends on his situation."

If privacy is the issue.....then why would it really matter if he was married or not. Everyone in the Demoratic party said Clinton was ok for doing what he did. They said it was no ones business.....

Whether its right or wrong,......he was stupid for doing it when he did.

If hes single then nothings wrong with doing what he did, except lying about it. He just picked a poor time to do it. Time will tell.......
 
Stinger said:
And you're not running for high public office are you. So go and have fun but don't run for a position of responsibility. It was stupid on his part.
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So you're going to rule out every politician that ever went to Hooters too? That looked at cheerleaders at a football game?

The GOP is soooo sexually repressed.
 
hipsterdufus said:
So you're going to rule out every politician that ever went to Hooters too? That looked at cheerleaders at a football game?

The GOP is soooo sexually repressed.
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I wouldn't suggest they hang out at a Hooters too much either. Is either a top deciding factor for most no. But not a smart move either.

If you were the campaign manager of an upcoming national political feature would you advise him to hang out with the Playboy crowd and frequent Hooters are every stop? How about going to strip clubs and getting table dances?
 
MrMichiganDem said:
Capt America said......Maybe nobody will say this, and perhaps I shouldn't either, but most of them folks down there just see a black man porkin' white girls in that scenerio.
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Really? Most of US folks down here just see that? That is just what jumped out at most of US folks down here? I guess we still lynch em to when we catch em?

The bigotry of your post is only surpassed by it's lack of intelligence. It would seem to me the only people who saw racism in the ad were those who have problems with interracial couples. Did you see racism in it? I didn't, most I know didn't. Why did you?

Regards from the South.
 
Before I state my case. I feel that whenever someone post a reply indicate who you is directing your comment too. That way when one gets it from DebatePolitics through their e-mail,or read it online one will know how to reply back to the post.

Now would one of you posters who have good senses explain to me ....why are we still beating a dead horse? You jumping on Tennessee have you been to Capital hill in Washington D.C, and visited the Kitty Cat club? Well many of you would be in for a big shocker once you see all the horny Senators in action. If a man love looking at Boobs and Big nice size butts that's on him. This is something thats been a part of Human nature since the beginning of time. Now if this forum want to get down right funky I think its better for a man to watch boobs and butts move then for the same sex to be foaming at the mouth. Maybe some of you females on here should try going to a male dancers club (especially since females seem to complain about they are not happy at home) Plus I have been in D.C and have seen female elected officials go into where male dancers dance.

So how can the pot call the kettle black when they are the same? Now here we are worrying about a Senator at a Playboy party, and our love ones is in Iraq dying in a uncall for war. Playboy,Penthouse,Hot Sexy Nightclubs will always be in business. So I think we all should try to enjoy the remaining of our days in the world by learning how to mind our own business.
 
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