For Republicans, bigotry is the new normal[W:60]

[ttwtt78640]

Re: For Republicans, bigotry is the new normal

There's actually quite a few reasons I believe the party is in trouble.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...graphics-of-2016-look-brutal-for-republicans/
Republicans right now have abandoned "fiscal conservatism" and "small government" proposals, in all reality. The hawks/bigots are out in full force and throwing out red meat to white voters, while continuing to alienate minorities.

The GOP will now be forever scarred thanks to the running of Donald Trump and the very real chance he may actually seize the nomination. With the decline of Christianity, the GOP continues to appeal to the very religious, the evangelicals and the like, while alienating Islam, a growing religion.
The fastest growing religion in the world is ... - CNN.com
Christians drop, 'nones' soar in new religion portrait
Unless the GOP drastically changes, they're in trouble.

If at first you don't succeed then switch editorials (topics?) and use demographic shifts in the US population instead. Meanwhile, back in reality, the republicants have a majority among congress critters, state legislatures and state governors. I agree that Trump, like Sanders, is a nut that is unlikely to be elected in a nationwide election but that proves nothing about the party.

 

[CriticalThought]

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Well a flat out lie, not surprising, there is only one candidate that is supporting that, hes certainly not a contender and he has never been elected as a republican to office, in fact he was a life long democrat until recently.

...says the guy who will still vote for him if he is nominated.

 

[David_N]

Re: For Republicans, bigotry is the new normal

If at first you don't succeed then switch editorials (topics?) and use demographic shifts in the US population instead. Meanwhile, back in reality, the republicants have a majority among congress critters, state legislatures and state governors. I agree that Trump, like Sanders, is a nut that is unlikely to be elected in a nationwide election but that proves nothing about the party.

Actually, you addressed me on the "free fall" comment, unless I was mistaken.
It actually says a lot about the party. Sanders isn't leading, unless I'm blind. Trump is, by large #'s.
And who follows behind him?
I actually went back and changed my original post to emphasize some things.
We're looking to the future.

 

[Mycroft]

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I do read his words. People spin to defend them though. It's hard to defend a lunatic...
For example, please explain how this can be defended as anything but a call to ban people based on religion:
Donald Trump defends proposed Muslim ban - CNNPolitics.com

LOL!!

This is why Trump is calling for a ban.

Feds can't say whereabouts of those whose visas were revoked over terror threat | Fox News

 

[Mycroft]

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Which part? In regards to the "free fall" comment? Already addressed, post #23. It doesn't help that people like Limbaugh are beginning to stray..
GOP Sells America Down the River - The Rush Limbaugh Show

LOL!!

I'm thinking you put more stock into what Limbaugh says than most Republicans. How ironic!!

 

[ttwtt78640]

Re: For Republicans, bigotry is the new normal

Actually, you addressed me on the "free fall" comment, unless I was mistaken.
It actually says a lot about the party. Sanders isn't leading, unless I'm blind. Trump is, by large #'s.
And who follows behind him?
I actually went back and changed my original post to emphasize some things.
We're looking to the future.

I suggest that we wait, until (mid March?) after few actual republicant primary contests, to see what the actual republlicant voters prefer. Trump may still be in the running but the 60% that do not want him will likely be far less divided among their alternative choices.

 

[CanadaJohn]

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This is an interesting piece. The republican party is in free fall.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a01efe-a435-11e5-ad3f-991ce3374e23_story.html

Another thread posted by a progressive claiming to identify bigotry within the Republican Party and yet only continues to display the bigotry of that very progressive poster.

 

[Crovax]

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...says the guy who will still vote for him if he is nominated.

Not a chance that he will be nominated and if something crazy happened like all the other candidates died in a freak accident and Trump was the nominee not a chance I would ever vote for him.

 

[humbolt]

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That post is completely ridiculous. The proposals of the GOP candidates are hardly comparable to the Obama ADMIN.

You should take a look back through the thread history here. Do you have any idea at all how often some members of the political left have labeled republicans, conservatives, the Tea Party and everyone else on the right as bigoted here? Most of us who post here and fit in the above mentioned political categories, however loosely, assume by now that some on the left automatically assume that about all who aren't progressive. If you're looking for a new reason to make that charge, just go ahead and make one up if you can't find something somewhere that fills the bill. I think that I can safely speak for at least some of us on the right - we no longer care what the reason of the day is to make such a charge. Carry on.

 

[joG]

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Yeah, because you can compare that to..

Don't confuse the issues. Just because you have a political bias does not mean that the candidate committed every crime under the moon.

 

[uncleray]

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At least they didn't steal Hillary's data.

Hmmmm, there's an interesting story about the Watergate ...

 

[woodsman]

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This is an interesting piece. The republican party is in free fall.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a01efe-a435-11e5-ad3f-991ce3374e23_story.html

Curious, I understand that the WP editorial article is a liberal hack piece, what concerns me is that you may actually think this as fact. The liberal bias and rhetoric was dripping off this article like a Saint Bernard with a salivation issue. Again my concerns, are you perhaps swimming in the dog drool pool? Once covered with the slim do you then shake off and these posts are the drippings of a wet dog that went for a dip on the liberal internet?

Actually all funning aside ( see above) you really , really need to expand your understanding of politics, bias is ok, I have that but outright dishonesty and total spin until the bearings wear out is another.

 

[D_NATURED]

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Well a flat out lie, not surprising, there is only one candidate that is supporting that, hes certainly not a contender and he has never been elected as a republican to office, in fact he was a life long democrat until recently. So saying the entire republican party is full of bigots is intellectually dishonest and its even more intellectually dishonest to repost information that you know to be a lie.

Well, the Republican party is the least diverse by far. Add to that the fact that they support homophobia and are against women's rights as part of their platform, started the very racist war on drugs and, in general, remain nostalgic for yesteryear, when black people and women knew "their place". Top that off with a healthy dose of right-wing religious authoritarianism and I think the evidence is clear. What isn't is how you're not seeing it.

 

[Crovax]

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Well, the Republican party is the least diverse by far. Add to that the fact that they support homophobia and are against women's rights as part of their platform, started the very racist war on drugs and, in general, remain nostalgic for yesteryear, when black people and women knew "their place". Top that off with a healthy dose of right-wing religious authoritarianism and I think the evidence is clear. What isn't is how you're not seeing it.

You think making up spurious claims is clear evidence?

 

[faithful_servant]

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Well a flat out lie, not surprising, there is only one candidate that is supporting that, hes certainly not a contender and he has never been elected as a republican to office, in fact he was a life long democrat until recently. So saying the entire republican party is full of bigots is intellectually dishonest and its even more intellectually dishonest to repost information that you know to be a lie.

Intellectual dishonesty is Dave's only M.O.

 

[Absentglare]

Re: For Republicans, bigotry is the new normal

Well a flat out lie, not surprising, there is only one candidate that is supporting that, hes certainly not a contender and he has never been elected as a republican to office, in fact he was a life long democrat until recently. So saying the entire republican party is full of bigots is intellectually dishonest and its even more intellectually dishonest to repost information that you know to be a lie.

Cruz and Trump, that's TWO major candidates.

Straining to label Trump as a democrat is bizarre. It's not democrats who are nominating him in the primaries.

It's saddening that the only response to these allegations is to deny basic facts about the reality of American politics.

 

[Absentglare]

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I suppose since you'll just deny this, i should give you a link :

Ted Cruz: Muslim refugees from Syria should go to other Islamic countries - CNNPolitics.com

 

[eohrnberger]

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At least they didn't steal Hillary's data.

Yeah, exactly my thought.

At least the GOP isn't running a serial liar who is under FBI investigation, nor a self claimed Democratic Socialist who hacked the opposition's computer systems for POTUS.

Seems to me that it's the Democratic party that's in free fall.

 

[Crovax]

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Cruz and Trump, that's TWO major candidates.

Straining to label Trump as a democrat is bizarre. It's not democrats who are nominating him in the primaries.

It's saddening that the only response to these allegations is to deny basic facts about the reality of American politics.

“I probably identify more as Democrat.” -Donald Trump

“I’ve been around for a long time. And it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.” -Donald Trump

“I’m totally pro-choice.” -Donald Trump

“I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care" -Donald Trump

“I think he [Obama] has a chance to go down as a great president.” -Donald Trump

 

[D_NATURED]

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You think making up spurious claims is clear evidence?

Spurious? You must not know what that word means. My claims were factual.

Are you not aware that Nixon thought the "blacks" were the real problem when he created the DEA and pushed to include marijuana as a Class A narcotic. A member of his team admitted as much, that Nixon couldn't make being black illegal so he decided to go after the substance in which he thought they took disproportionate comfort.

WashingtonPost.com: Smoke and Mirrors: The War on Drugs and the Politics of Failure

Once-Secret "Nixon Tapes" Show Why the U.S. Outlawed Pot | Alternet

So much for one of my "spurious" claims. How about diversity? Have you seen footage of a GOP convention and compared that to a Democratic convention? Any photograph from any convention should be sufficient to satisfy you on the diversity claim.

Now, as for homophobia and and opposition to women's rights being a GOP platform stance, do I really need to remind you of who is still trying to make gay people's lives miserable? Or, which party actively opposes the right of a woman to determine what happens to and within her own body? C'mon, man, let's be real for a change. You guys are always saying how much you hate political correctness yet you are the first to demand that your own evil ideas be protected by religious freedom, as your party hides behind the skirts of the first amendment rather than adopt a kinder, rational, more humane platform.

I don't know, dude. Some times I wonder what-or if- you guys are really thinking. Bigotry is, indeed, as much a part of the GOP as is xenophobia and christian-based authoritarianism. I wish I were making this **** up.

 

[Absentglare]

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“I probably identify more as Democrat.” -Donald Trump

“I’ve been around for a long time. And it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.” -Donald Trump

“I’m totally pro-choice.” -Donald Trump

“I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care" -Donald Trump

“I think he [Obama] has a chance to go down as a great president.” -Donald Trump

Oh, has he said any of these things during his current campaign ?

Carson used to refer patients for abortions. Does that sound like the Carson currently running for office, or is it maybe a little unfair to expect people to never change over time ?

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: For Republicans, bigotry is the new normal

Well, the Republican party is the least diverse by far. Add to that the fact that they support homophobia and are against women's rights as part of their platform, started the very racist war on drugs and, in general, remain nostalgic for yesteryear, when black people and women knew "their place". Top that off with a healthy dose of right-wing religious authoritarianism and I think the evidence is clear. What isn't is how you're not seeing it.

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[tres borrachos]

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“I probably identify more as Democrat.” -Donald Trump

“I’ve been around for a long time. And it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.” -Donald Trump

“I’m totally pro-choice.” -Donald Trump

“I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care" -Donald Trump

“I think he [Obama] has a chance to go down as a great president.” -Donald Trump

I would hope that most people know by now that Trump as about as Republican as Michael Bloomberg and Arlen Specter.

 

[gdgyva]

Re: For Republicans, bigotry is the new normal

Well, the Republican party is the least diverse by far. Add to that the fact that they support homophobia and are against women's rights as part of their platform, started the very racist war on drugs and, in general, remain nostalgic for yesteryear, when black people and women knew "their place". Top that off with a healthy dose of right-wing religious authoritarianism and I think the evidence is clear. What isn't is how you're not seeing it.

take a look at the last couple of debates

one on the democratic side

one on the republican side

look at the candidates....really look at them

now...

what was it you were saying about diversity?

 

[Crovax]

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Oh, has he said any of these things during his current campaign ?

Carson used to refer patients for abortions. Does that sound like the Carson currently running for office, or is it maybe a little unfair to expect people to never change over time ?

I never said people can't change, I only pointed out that Trump was a life long Democrat until recently. Which you disputed and now look silly for.