Lets recap shall we?.....Um......no............ Are you crying "flame bait" and "hijack" because you're uncomfortable with answering any question that makes you think a little deeper about your political viewpoint?
Good, then don't respond....I'm sure I won't miss a thing if you don't.I have no reason to respond to your argument. In order for it to justify a response from me it would have to somehow attempt to warrant government action.
So really the only deep thinking your answers have inspired is that you think the Constitution is nothing but pure socialism and you'd replace it with a totaltiarian, oligarichy, authoritarian, facist, dictatorshisp that favors the rich.
If you want to look at it that way then everything in life can be an intrusion into one's private life. But the government is the only legal protection we have in preventing private entities from invading our private lives and using our private information against us. So if you know of a better protection for privacy and individual rights than the constitution or the government, then lets hear it.
Well, why don't we just go full Socialism then? After all, we can trust the government to protect us, right?
Well what would you prefer, a government that protects everyone's rights or only those with lots of money?
As in, full Socialism is a "government that protects everyone's rights"?
Are you invoking "socialism" to flame bait me, Josie? Sure looks like it.
So really the only deep thinking your answers have inspired is that you think the Constitution is nothing but pure socialism and you'd replace it with a totaltiarian, oligarichy, authoritarian, facist, dictatorshisp that favors the rich.
Um, no again. I love how you're responding to what you want me to say instead of what I'm actually saying.
Let's recap with actual quotes so it's easier to read. Here's how it began:
To which you directly replied:
That was a direct reply to my question about Socialism. So, obviously, I had to ask this question to clarify what you actually believed "a government that protects everyone's rights" was:
And all you could come up with was...
LOL!
Your reply to me asking if we should go "full Socialism" was "Well, do you want everyone's rights protected or not?" and then...
What YOU implied was that a government that protects everyone's rights was Socialism. The Constitution DOES protect everyone's rights (not just the rich), therefore, you believe the Constitution is a Socialist document.
I am a libertarian so your idea that I want a massive, Fascistic government is laughable.
"....if you know of a better protection for privacy and individual rights than the constitution or the government, then lets hear it."
I didn't bring up socialism, you did, josie.
See, now that wasn't so hard to admit, now was it? Maybe I should put your quote in my sig so you don't forget it. lolThe job of the federal government is to protect our privacy and individual rights.
Thats true, too.That doesn't mean they are to run every aspect of our lives.
For a so called Libertarian you sure like to tell people what they think. So why don't you just admit that you like to tell them what to do in their private lives, too?I understand that YOU think that would be a great thing, but I certainly don't.
Unlike you, I know what I said and what I think and no one is going to tell me otherwise, least of all you.Sure you did. It's what you want, you just won't call it that because it's some sort of "Bogeyman" word to you.
So why don't you just admit that you like to tell them what to do in their private lives, too?
When you first brought up birth control and then tried to tell me what I think and tried to put words in my mouth.
Good, then don't respond....I'm sure I won't miss a thing if you don't.
I give up Josie. Your circular reasoning and short memory is getting the best of me and I really don't have much more to say to you.So because I "put words in your mouth" I like to tell people what to do in their private lives? How did that even make sense in your head?
I give up Josie. Your circular reasoning and short memory is getting the best of me and I really don't have much more to say to you.
There you go again telling me what I think. :roll:LOL! In other words, you realize that what you said makes zero sense so you've decided to stop talking. Good idea.
There you go again telling me what I think. :roll:
After telling me you're not going to take me seriously, do you really expect me to take you seriously? I don't think so...but thanks for the laugh. LOLBelieve me you do not want to me humor your argument as serious. The argument that price of a good would somehow warrant the government acting to resolve that problem or to worse take over the distribution of that good is ludicrous and from understanding the only way you could somehow argue such a thing is to use an emotional argument geared towards some kind of idea of social justice. Of course, justice has nothing to do with your idea at all, but then, that is usually the way it goes with such ideas.
After telling me you're not going to take me seriously, do you really expect me to take you seriously? I don't think so...but thanks for the laugh. LOL
You really are hoot, Henrin. lolIt doesn't matter. Enjoy believing that social justice is actually justice though.
Social justice? Seriously, Henrin I don't know why you bother trying to have a discussion with anyone let alone me when you can have a discussion and tell yourself of what others believe all by yourself.It doesn't matter what you expect. Enjoy believing that social justice is actually justice though.
You really are hoot, Henrin. lol
Social justice? Seriously, Henrin I don't know why you bother trying to have a discussion with anyone let alone me when you can have a discussion and tell yourself of what others believe all by yourself.
Really, and what is it I'm supposed to have denied? Oh yeah, I guess it must been that I denied denying what I didn't deny before I denied it..or was it after? Oh nevermind, I"m sure you'll tell me after you've finished telling me what I believe and then rebutting it and claiming victory without a word from me.I already know what you believe. I'm just here have fun with your denial of it is all.
Really, and what is it I'm supposed to have denied? Oh yeah, I guess it must been that I denied denying what I didn't deny before I denied it..or was it after? Oh nevermind, I"m sure you'll tell me after you've finished telling me what I believe and then rebutting it and claiming victory without a word from me.
I doubt many people thought they wouldn't be able to afford health care unless they bought health insurance, either...but here we are....at the mercy of private insurance companies with little or no consumer protection from being denied coverage.
Do "we"?We both know where that leads and we both know what is behind it.
I doubt many people ever thought the government would at some point give themselves the authority to know what people are doing towards their health years ago and yet that is exactly what they know today.
Do "we"?
So what is it exactly that you think the government knows?
Well, I don't recall saying anything about "social justice" the entire time I've been here at DP. So what is it about social justice that "we both know" that only you seem to know?Yes. We both know the only place it leads is to social justice hogwash.
Did you? I must have missed it.I already told you.
The argument that price of a good would somehow warrant the government acting to resolve that problem or to worse take over the distribution of that good is ludicrous and from understanding the only way you could somehow argue such a thing is to use an emotional argument geared towards some kind of idea of social justice. Of course, justice has nothing to do with your idea at all, but then, that is usually the way it goes with such ideas.
Well, I don't recall saying anything about "social justice" the entire time I've been here at DP. So what is it about social justice that "we both know" that only you seem to know?
Did you? I must have missed it.
Are you trying to talk about health care? I don't understand your argument about social justice. Isn't social justice the core of Jesus's teachings in the Bible and taught in almost every Christian church in the country?
Is it the word "social" that bothers you? No, it appears to be the word "justice". Sorry, but I don't know wtf you're talking about so I guess that means "we both" don't know either.
I doubt many people thought they wouldn't be able to afford health care unless they bought health insurance, either...but here we are....at the mercy of private insurance companies with little or no consumer protection from being denied coverage.
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