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CNN said:
Listed as the most dangerous cities are: Camden, New Jersey; Detroit, Michigan; St. Louis, Missouri; Flint, Michigan; Richmond, Virginia; Baltimore, Maryland; Atlanta, Georgia; New Orleans, Louisiana; Gary, Indiana; Birmingham, Alabama.


Now let's look at the races of these cities.
Camden, New Jersey
City-Data.com

Races in Camden:

* Black (53.3%)
* Hispanic (38.8%)
* Other race (22.8%)
* White Non-Hispanic (7.1%)
* Two or more races (3.9%)
* Vietnamese (1.6%)
* American Indian (1.2%)

Detroit, Michigan
City-Data.com

Races in Detroit:

* Black (81.6%)
* White Non-Hispanic (10.5%)
* Hispanic (5.0%)
* Other race (2.5%)
* Two or more races (2.3%)
* American Indian (0.9%)

St. Louis, Missouri
City-Data.com

Races in St. Louis:

* Black (51.2%)
* White Non-Hispanic (42.9%)
* Hispanic (2.0%)
* Two or more races (1.9%)
* Vietnamese (1.0%)
* American Indian (0.8%)
* Other race (0.8%)

Flint, Michigan
City-Data.com
Races in Flint:

* Black (53.3%)
* White Non-Hispanic (40.0%)
* Two or more races (3.1%)
* Hispanic (3.0%)
* American Indian (2.2%)
* Other race (1.1%)

Richmond, Virginia
City-Data.com
Races in Richmond:

* Black (57.2%)
* White Non-Hispanic (37.7%)
* Hispanic (2.6%)
* Other race (1.5%)
* Two or more races (1.5%)
* American Indian (0.7%)

Baltimore, Maryland

City-Data.com
Races in Baltimore:

* Black (64.3%)
* White Non-Hispanic (31.0%)
* Hispanic (1.7%)
* Two or more races (1.5%)
* American Indian (0.8%)
* Other race (0.7%)

Atlanta, Georgia
City-Data.com
Races in Atlanta:

* Black (61.4%)
* White Non-Hispanic (31.3%)
* Hispanic (4.5%)
* Other race (2.0%)
* Two or more races (1.2%)
* Asian Indian (0.6%)
* American Indian (0.5%)

New Orleans, Louisiana
City-Data.com
Races in New Orleans:

* Black (67.3%)
* White Non-Hispanic (26.6%)
* Hispanic (3.1%)
* Vietnamese (1.5%)
* Two or more races (1.3%)
* Other race (0.9%)
* American Indian (0.5%)

Gary, Indiana
City-Data.com
Races in Gary:

* Black (84.0%)
* White Non-Hispanic (10.1%)
* Hispanic (4.9%)
* Other race (2.0%)
* Two or more races (1.7%)
* American Indian (0.7%)

Birmingham, Alabama
City-Data.com
Races in Birmingham:

* Black (73.5%)
* White Non-Hispanic (23.5%)
* Hispanic (1.6%)
* Two or more races (0.8%)
* Other race (0.6%)

OK now let's look at the makeup of the ten safest cities.


CNN said:
At the other end of the scale, the safest are named as: Newton, Massachusetts; Clarkstown, New York; Amherst, New York; Mission Viejo, California; Brick Township, New Jersey; Troy, Michigan; Thousand Oaks, California; Round Rock, Texas; Lake Forest, California; Cary, North Carolina.



Newton, Massachusetts
City-Data.com
Races in Newton:

* White Non-Hispanic (86.4%)
* Chinese (4.8%)
* Hispanic (2.5%)
* Black (2.0%)
* Two or more races (1.5%)
* Asian Indian (0.9%)
* Other race (0.7%)
* Korean (0.6%)

Clarkstown, New York
City-Data.com
Races in Clarkstown:

* White Non-Hispanic (76.0%)
* Black (7.9%)
* Hispanic (6.9%)
* Asian Indian (3.0%)
* Filipino (2.1%)
* Two or more races (2.0%)
* Other race (2.0%)
* Chinese (1.2%)
* Korean (1.0%)


Amherst, New York
City-Data.com
Races in Amherst:

* White Non-Hispanic (88.4%)
* Black (3.9%)
* Asian Indian (1.7%)
* Chinese (1.6%)
* Hispanic (1.4%)
* Two or more races (1.1%)
* Korean (0.9%)

Mission Viejo, California
City-Data.com
Races in Mission Viejo:

* White Non-Hispanic (76.0%)
* Hispanic (12.1%)
* Other race (3.8%)
* Two or more races (3.6%)
* Filipino (1.6%)
* Chinese (1.6%)
* Vietnamese (1.2%)
* Black (1.1%)
* Japanese (1.1%)
* American Indian (0.9%)
* Asian Indian (0.9%)
* Korean (0.8%)
* Other Asian (0.6%)

Brick Township, New Jersey

Wikipedia

The racial makeup of the township is 95.81% White, 0.99% African American, 0.10% Native American, 1.19% Asian, 0.02% Pacific Islander, 0.85% from other races, and 1.04% from two or more races. 3.85% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race.

Troy, Michigan

City-Data.com

Races in Troy:

* White Non-Hispanic (81.3%)
* Asian Indian (5.7%)
* Chinese (3.8%)
* Black (2.1%)
* Two or more races (1.8%)
* Korean (1.5%)
* Hispanic (1.5%)
* Filipino (1.0%)
* Other Asian (0.7%)

Thousand Oaks, California
City-Data.com
Races in Thousand Oaks:

* White Non-Hispanic (77.7%)
* Hispanic (13.1%)
* Other race (4.5%)
* Two or more races (2.8%)
* Chinese (2.1%)
* Black (1.1%)
* American Indian (1.0%)
* Asian Indian (0.8%)
* Japanese (0.8%)
* Filipino (0.7%)
* Korean (0.7%)

Round Rock, Texas
City-Data.com
Races in Round Rock:

* White Non-Hispanic (65.6%)
* Hispanic (22.1%)
* Other race (9.5%)
* Black (7.7%)
* Two or more races (2.6%)
* American Indian (0.9%)
* Vietnamese (0.7%)
* Asian Indian (0.6%)


Lake Forest, California
City-Data.com
Races in Lake Forest:

* White Non-Hispanic (66.7%)
* Hispanic (18.6%)
* Other race (7.5%)
* Two or more races (4.2%)
* Vietnamese (2.4%)
* Filipino (2.2%)
* Black (1.8%)
* American Indian (1.2%)
* Chinese (1.2%)
* Korean (1.1%)
* Asian Indian (1.1%)
* Japanese (1.0%)
* Other Asian (0.8%)

Cary, North Carolina
City-Data.com
Races in Cary:

* White Non-Hispanic (79.7%)
* Black (6.1%)
* Hispanic (4.3%)
* Asian Indian (3.5%)
* Chinese (2.3%)
* Two or more races (1.8%)
* Other race (1.5%)
* Korean (0.6%)
* Vietnamese (0.6%)
* American Indian (0.6%)
* Other Asian (0.5%)

OK, now what do we notice?

The safest cities have a WHITE Majority!

The most dangerous cities have a BLACK Majority!

Also 95 percent of homicide warrants are for illegal aliens in Los Angeles, as for 66 percent of fugitive felony warrants. The notorious 18th street gang has 20 thousand members, of whom 60 to 80 percent are illegal aliens. The Lil’ Cycos gang, notorious for murder, racketeering and drugs in Macarthur Park, was 60 percent illegals in 2002, and the percentage is higher now. According to the California department of justice.

Yet racial profiling doesnt work right? It's racist huh? I am not racist but come on!
 

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The most likely factors that contribute to a high crime rate is lack of a propor family,unemployment rate,average age of residents and lack of education.




according to City-Data.com



A city with a low crime rate
Troy,MI


For population 25 years and over in Troy

* High school or higher: 92.2%
* Bachelor's degree or higher: 50.0%
* Graduate or professional degree: 21.8%
* Unemployed: 3.3%
* Mean travel time to work: 24.5 minutes

For population 15 years and over in Troy city

* Never married: 24.0%
* Now married: 63.6%
* Separated: 0.5%
* Widowed: 4.7%
* Divorced: 7.2%
Median resident age: 38.1 years
Median household income: $77,538 (year 2000)
Median house value: $219,800 (year 2000)


A city with a high crime rate.

Camden,NJ

For population 25 years and over in Camden

* High school or higher: 51.0%
* Bachelor's degree or higher: 5.4%
* Graduate or professional degree: 1.9%
* Unemployed: 15.9%
* Mean travel time to work: 26.7 minutes

For population 15 years and over in Camden city

* Never married: 47.8%
* Now married: 29.8%
* Separated: 6.9%
* Widowed: 6.4%
* Divorced: 9.2%

Median resident age: 27.2 years

Median household income: $23,421 (year 2000)
Median house value: $40,700 (year 2000)




AmericanPatriot29 said:
OK, now what do we notice?

You blindly ignored the real factors that contribute to crime.

The safest cities have a WHITE Majority!

The most dangerous cities have a BLACK Majority!

You ignored the real factors that contribute to crime.


Also 95 percent of homicide warrants are for illegal aliens in Los Angeles, as for 66 percent of fugitive felony warrants. The notorious 18th street gang has 20 thousand members, of whom 60 to 80 percent are illegal aliens. The Lil’ Cycos gang, notorious for murder, racketeering and drugs in Macarthur Park, was 60 percent illegals in 2002, and the percentage is higher now. According to the California department of justice.

California is also one of the most liberals states with relaxed laws.THe border is a open door and any smuck can walk in and out.How many people has california executed since the death penalty has be re-instated?
10 or 11 people?

Yet racial profiling doesnt work right? It's racist huh? I am not racist but come on!


You blindly ignored the other factors that contribute to crime rate.It seems to be a smear campaign to paint blacks and other races as having some natural tendacies to do crime.
 
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correlation does not equal causation


Funnny you should take the time to specifically deny being racist while concurrently citing race as the relevant factor. What should an observer make of this peculiar paradox?
 

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Racial diversity does not equal multi-culturalism.
 
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ok, so cities with more minorities have higher crime rates.

so what? racial profiling is still a violation of our rights.

most crime, especially violent crime, is commited by men. should we have sexual profiling too?
 
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star2589 said:
ok, so cities with more minorities have higher crime rates.

so what? racial profiling is still a violation of our rights.

most crime, especially violent crime, is commited by men. should we have sexual profiling too?

Its a police officers duty to protect the American people from crime and if that means profiling people its fully within the law. It is not a violation of rights. Police officers agree with racial profiling and statistics show that it helps. And yes if the majority of men commited violent crime in a neighborhood we should profile them.

Suppose a black guy was walking down the street in a bad area at 11 oclock at night in a crime ridden neighborhood, and he had baggy clothes, walking with a certain stride like he is a thug, gold grills, and as a police officer 9 out of 10 times I stop someone looking just like this person and they were guilty you can be damn sure I am gunna pull this guy over and see what he is up to.

But on the flip side say this was a neighborhood with low crime and the black person was dressed very conservative, blacks didnt really commit crime, he didnt walk like a thug in the middle of the day I woudlnt have a reason to stop him. When I was in highschool I dressed like a thug and I fit the profile of someone who smoked dope and I did. When cops pulled me over I didnt scream racism or discrimination and I completely understood that they pulled me over and I didnt blame them. Its like what do I expect when I walk around with a certain image? I would be pissed if I was dressed super conservative and I truly wasnt a pot head but cops dont do that. Even if they did mistakes happen and it shouldnt be a reason for them to discontinue profiling.

Simon W. Moon said:
correlation does not equal causation
Funnny you should take the time to specifically deny being racist while concurrently citing race as the relevant factor. What should an observer make of this peculiar paradox?

Because race is a relevant factor. If all races were equal Africa and the Middle East wouldnt be third world dumps. Why isnt that blacks cant take care of themselves? There is a reason why the third world flood into white countries and not black countries.

jamesrage said:
The most likely factors that contribute to a high crime rate is lack of a propor family,unemployment rate,average age of residents and lack of education.

Why is it that blacks and certain minority groups are susceptible to always be the ones to remain in poverty, have lack of education etc? Is it something about them? There is no excuse you are trying to cover up for them and you cant do it. Secondly how does the average age of residents have something to do with crime? Just because I am young it doesnt mean that I am going to go murder someone.


California is also one of the most liberals states with relaxed laws.THe border is a open door and any smuck can walk in and out.How many people has california executed since the death penalty has be re-instated?
10 or 11 people?

True. But the proof is in the pooding despite ethnic groups following the same exact laws whites still commit less crime.
 

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AmericanPatriot29 said:
Because race is a relevant factor. If all races were equal Africa and the Middle East wouldnt be third world dumps. Why isnt that blacks cant take care of themselves? There is a reason why the third world flood into white countries and not black countries.
So for the centuries, when the ME was the height of human civilization, 'white folks' were the 'racially inferior' ones? And now, that the progress of western civ has surpassed the ME, it's because of racial factors (and I'll bet your contention is genetic factors as well)?

Is that the deal?


Your problem solving / logic is crippled.
 
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AmericanPatriot29 said:
Why is it that blacks and certain minority groups are susceptible to always be the ones to remain in poverty, have lack of education etc?
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Education cost money.I would also blame the liberalism that champions a alledged right to glorify and emulate criminal behavior.Blame the fact that if you constantly hand out money to any group of people they are going to get confortable in their situation.Blame the race parasites like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton these poeple creat a false sense of victimization.Blame liberal laws that coddle prisoners instead of punishing them.Most immigrints did not come to this country rich,if they were rich they proably would have not bothered coming here in the first place.

Is it something about them?

I bet that if you look as any poor city with a good size population there is going to be more crime than cities of the same size with a more wealthier population reguardless of the race of the population.Some poor people feel it is justified robbing and stealling from other poor people.

Secondly how does the average age of residents have something to do with crime?

Younger people are less responsible and more selfish and idealistic that older people.They have some of their attitudes from when they were teenagers.


Just because I am young it doesnt mean that I am going to go murder someone.

But some other knucklehead your age might.
 
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jamesrage said:
Education cost money.I would also blame the liberalism that champions a alledged right to glorify and emulate criminal behavior.Blame the fact that if you constantly hand out money to any group of people they are going to get confortable in their situation.Blame the race parasites like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton these poeple creat a false sense of victimization.Blame liberal laws that coddle prisoners instead of punishing them.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton represent the black people and they dont say anything negative about them which reflects on them. Blacks walk around with a sense of entitlement like whites are indebted to them. We dont owe them anything and there is simply no excuse for their failures anymore. They cant blame that whitey is holding them down like they used to time has revealed that they clearly are incapable to compete in the work place. But I do agree with your post here though. But you have to realize blacks vote overwhelmingly for democrats around 88 percent. They support this behavior without question.

Most immigrints did not come to this country rich,if they were rich they proably would have not bothered coming here in the first place.

Our immigration policy used to favor people who established America and perpetuated its institutions. The immigrants may have been poor but they came from successful groups of people as a whole while our current immigration policies favor poor from unsuccessful groups of people. Africa is a dump; it always has been and it always will be. Immigrating these people over here is not going to preserve America as the number one superpower.

I bet that if you look as any poor city with a good size population there is going to be more crime than cities of the same size with a more wealthier population reguardless of the race of the population.Some poor people feel it is justified robbing and stealling from other poor people.

In America there is opportunity for everyone if you are committing crime its because there is something wrong with you.

Younger people are less responsible and more selfish and idealistic that older people.They have some of their attitudes from when they were teenagers.

True. But that still doesnt take away from the fact that blacks that are the same age as whites commit more crime.

Simon W. Moon said:
So for the centuries, when the ME was the height of human civilization, 'white folks' were the 'racially inferior' ones? And now, that the progress of western civ has surpassed the ME, it's because of racial factors (and I'll bet your contention is genetic factors as well)?

Whats your race? We will talk about it.
 

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Whats your race? We will talk about it.
I'm ethnically American.

Today, just like yesterday and all of the yesterdays before it, and just like tomorrow and all the tomorrows after it, correlation does not equal causation.
That small fact lays waste to the arguments you've presented. After you figure that out and reformulate your case taking that into account we can continue.
 
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AmericanPatriot29 said:
Suppose a black guy was walking down the street in a bad area at 11 oclock at night in a crime ridden neighborhood, and he had baggy clothes, walking with a certain stride like he is a thug, gold grills, and as a police officer 9 out of 10 times I stop someone looking just like this person and they were guilty you can be damn sure I am gunna pull this guy over and see what he is up to.

Being black, and wearing certain clothes and having an attitude are different things. Yes, if someone is walking around a crime ridden neighborhood late at night looking like a thug, theres nothing wrong with stopping him and asking what he's doing. Thats true whether they are black, white, or anything else.

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But on the flip side say this was a neighborhood with low crime and the black person was dressed very conservative, blacks didnt really commit crime, he didnt walk like a thug in the middle of the day I woudlnt have a reason to stop him. When I was in highschool I dressed like a thug and I fit the profile of someone who smoked dope and I did. When cops pulled me over I didnt scream racism or discrimination and I completely understood that they pulled me over and I didnt blame them. Its like what do I expect when I walk around with a certain image?

Thats exactly my point. the profiling you're talking about has much more to do with behavior than it has to do with race.

AmericanPatriot29 said:
Because race is a relevant factor. If all races were equal Africa and the Middle East wouldnt be third world dumps. Why isnt that blacks cant take care of themselves? There is a reason why the third world flood into white countries and not black countries.

you're confusing race with ethnicity and culture etc.


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Why is it that blacks and certain minority groups are susceptible to always be the ones to remain in poverty, have lack of education etc? Is it something about them?

It is something about them, but its not their race. Its the culture that usually but not always goes with it. Hopefully, there will be more Bill Cosbys someday.
 

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Intelligent to this thread but

Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah,
This is frigging stupid
Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah
 
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Being black, and wearing certain clothes and having an attitude are different things. Yes, if someone is walking around a crime ridden neighborhood late at night looking like a thug, theres nothing wrong with stopping him and asking what he's doing. Thats true whether they are black, white, or anything else.

That is exactly what racial profiling is and what liberals forced to discontinue.

Thats exactly my point. the profiling you're talking about has much more to do with behavior than it has to do with race.

Bingo. Except most people of different races fit the profile to commit a crime so they complain and perceive it as racist but its not. Even statistics prove that racial profiling is accurate.
 

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AmericanPatriot29 said:
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton represent the black people and they dont say anything negative about them which reflects on them.
There in lie your problem. The two mentioned represent nothing but themselves. They represent nothing but their pocket book.

But you have to realize blacks vote overwhelmingly for democrats around 88 percent.
Yeah, so? Education is the key here.

In America there is opportunity for everyone if you are committing crime its because there is something wrong with you.
Role models, MTV, and the media - they are to blame. One can get rich if all they have is a rhyme or can throw a ball - right? Dear reader, you would be amazed at how many kids believe this!

It's not unlike what is happening in every class and every town in America.

Most blacks are single parented. 80% of abortions are from black American women (read before - cannot prove at this time). Where there is a family structure, there is a healthy and wonderful child and few crimes - regardless of the color of their skin.

Break the family and you have crime.

Thats all I am saying in this silly thread.
 

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Warning: It's 4 am, so I'm not going to go out looking for statistics. However, most of this is commonly accepted knowledge and will be easily backed up on a quantifiable basis if you do a simple google search.


I think it's interesting how you said that minorities "clearly are incapable to compete in the work place". You then used the excuse that African / Middle Eastern companies are, for the most part, third world countries. Have you taken a look at technology companies lately? They're vastly asian owned, staffed, and operated. Also, asian students are usually outperforming white students in every level of education. However, if you look at the majority of Asia, they're living in third world countries as well. Another good example is the auto industry. Japanese/European cars are vastly superior to most American cars in almost every aspect, however the "patriots" continue to buy a poorly made product to support their nation.

This is not the only argument I have against your position. Most of your arguments are laughable at best.

Time has shown over and over again that poverty breeds crime. Notice that the poverty levels in all of the cities you mentioned are immensely higher than the national average. Unfortunately, when you or your family are starving, morals tend to go out the window. Most parents in this world would steal food for their child rather than watch them starve.

Education definitely plays a large role in this as well. Now, I can finally blame something on Bush in this argument. Bush's federal education funding system works in a very odd manner. Basically, the better a school performs on standardized tests the more money the school gets. This sounds good when said quickly, but let's break down this statement. The schools that do well are rewarded by getting more money. However, the schools that do poorly are punished to the extent that they can't even afford new books(not to mention computers, televisions, or, most importantly, competent staff). Unfortunately, the economic level of a high school's students tends to be the common denominator of how the school performs. Most of the poorly performing schools are in inner cities. Most of the students in inner city schools are minorities. Therefore, most of the poorly performing students are minorities. However, you aren't going to even give them a chance if you continue to cut their budget in order to give the money to the schools in higher income areas. So much for "no child left behind".

Also, do not undermine the effect that slavery had on the black race. While whites were prospering, they were taken advantage of like oppression was going out of style. And when they were finally released, they were exiled into towns that gave new meaning to poverty. FFS, Blacks didn't even have the same rights to education half a century ago!

Finally, please stop your incessant ranting about immigration. The majority of us wouldn't be here if it weren't for immigration. For example, my father's side of the family arrived in this country less than a hundred years ago.

Although, even through all this, I don't believe whites are indebted to blacks because of the past. After all, if ANYONE deserves reparations it's native americans.

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If all races were equal Africa and the Middle East wouldnt be third world dumps. Why isnt that blacks cant take care of themselves? There is a reason why the third world flood into white countries and not black countries.

sorry we in little old england have something to do with that. colonisation has played a massive part in why, as you so wonderfully put it, "Africa is a dump".
I really do fail to understand why a country such as the US which is a nation almost entirely made up of immigrants has such intolerance towards immigrants. I also don't understand why it has on several occasions been referred to as a "White" or "aryan land"....their where other people before the whiteys came


Also in the UK we have a problem with white gangs. They are otherwise known as chavs or scallys. look beyond the borders for once!
 
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Using our western notion of progress as a yardstick, all indigenous African populations are backward and in deplorable economic, political, and social shape. Most of this is due to different notions of "progress". Various African tribes don't believe in "progress" as we know it. They seek to live up to the ideals of their ancestors, and to be closer to God. The idea that they could live better than their great forefathers is foreign. This explains why incredibly intelligent people who thousands of years earlier understood advanced sciences didn't use that to "prosper" as we know it. They aren't searching for better ways to farm the land, cure diseases, improve lifestyle, etc.

So when President Bush and others say, "every parent no matter what country they're from wants a better life for their children". He's actually wrong.

Now there are many African nations that are a mixture of their own and the West's influence. However, the usual result is a corrupt leadership class that misuses their power for a limited few.
 
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AmericanPatriot29 said:
That is exactly what racial profiling is and what liberals forced to discontinue.

Bingo. Except most people of different races fit the profile to commit a crime so they complain and perceive it as racist but its not. Even statistics prove that racial profiling is accurate.

so why even call it "racial profiling" if it has nothing to do with race?

I find it hard to believe that "racial profiling" would ever have become controversial if it really is defined as you defined it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_profiling
Racial profiling is inclusion of race in the profile of a persons considered likely to commit a particular crime or type of crime (see Offender Profiling). Towards the end of the 20th century in the United States, the practice fell into disfavor with the general public as abuses by law enforcement came to light. Race riots have also been cited as a symptom of racial profiling.

The issue came into the international spotlight post-9/11 because race is included among the factors used by aviation authorities in several countries to attempt to identify potential terrorists and prevent them from boarding airplanes.

by this definition, race very clearly is used.
 

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Vauge made an excellent point. It is not about race. It is about family structure, and that is key in helping to keep morality strong. Our media celebrates the thugs in sports and entertainment.
We all know about T.O. Loudmouthed, obnoxious jackass.
How many know about Shaun Alexander and the charities that he has set up? The effort and money he has and is pouring into programs to get inner city kids on the right track?
What about Warrick Dunn? He routinely goes out and puts downpayments on houses for single mothers, to help them get a start.
Instead, we hear about the love boat incident for the Minnesota Vikings and crap like that.
Good doesn't get ratings.
Immigration is great for this country!! But it needs to be legal. Otherwise, we are failing ourselves.
Most of those in other countries of third world status have it very rough, but when they get an OPPORTUNITY, as we can and do provide, they run with it. Hell, 60, 70 hours a week working in their own business?
Most love it. For them, it is a reduction of hours. A lot of American's problems are Fatass syndrome. Sitting on their butt waiting for the next holiday, not willing to go above and beyond.
We are a melting pot, and that is part of what makes us as great as we are.
 

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Blue Collar Joe said:
Vauge made an excellent point. It is not about race. It is about family structure, and that is key in helping to keep morality strong. Our media celebrates the thugs in sports and entertainment.
We all know about T.O. Loudmouthed, obnoxious jackass.
How many know about Shaun Alexander and the charities that he has set up? The effort and money he has and is pouring into programs to get inner city kids on the right track?
What about Warrick Dunn? He routinely goes out and puts downpayments on houses for single mothers, to help them get a start.
Instead, we hear about the love boat incident for the Minnesota Vikings and crap like that.
Good doesn't get ratings.
Immigration is great for this country!! But it needs to be legal. Otherwise, we are failing ourselves.
Most of those in other countries of third world status have it very rough, but when they get an OPPORTUNITY, as we can and do provide, they run with it. Hell, 60, 70 hours a week working in their own business?
Most love it. For them, it is a reduction of hours. A lot of American's problems are Fatass syndrome. Sitting on their butt waiting for the next holiday, not willing to go above and beyond.
We are a melting pot, and that is part of what makes us as great as we are.


A little eclectic ;) , but a couple good points.
 

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Alrighty.

This is only my second post here, but I will post my opinion anyways. I got to a school that is 76% Black. I am white. The most intelligent people, the nicest people, the best looking people I have met have been black. Unfortunately I can also say the opposite.

I have very few problems with the black students at my school.

Whoever said 80% of abortions are committed by black women is wrong. It is definately wrong. I do agree it may be a higher rate among black women but most abortions are committed by white woman.

As far as Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, they are idoits, and need their heads examined. I know blacks voted 88% for Kerry last election. Keep in mind most of the black votes Bush got came from the 18-25 bracket.

Black people have every right to be angry at white people, white people that are probably dead by now. Slavery was wrong. What those skin heads did in the 50s and 60s to black people was unacceptable and makes me sick. However, they have no right to be mad at modern day whites. The ignorant whites in the past that tortured black people are probably sitting in hell now. Present-Day whites have no obligation, since they were not their when the racism happened.

I have a feeling that the people who collect data to determine the most crime ridden cities, collect NO data except the percentage of Black People in the city. Come on now, Hispanics on the border states are far worse! I have been to Texas. I thought the native-Hispanics are wonderful people, those illegal immigrants are a bunch of losers.

I do give a rats behind how poor African Countries are. As long as people of "African" decent are in America, they are not Africans, they are AMERICANS.

BTW in many state legislatures (Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Arkansas, Texas, South Carolina, Virginia, etc) Black Woman have been more successful then white women in being elected to office. Alabama state legislature does not have many women, but over 2/3's of the women elected are black!

Their are many intelligent Black-Americans in the public eye. Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell, Shirley Franklin, Maxine Waters, Mel Watt, and many more. Even Ray Nagin is intelligent... although along with the entire Louisiana Government he is too crooked.

I am not saying you have to be crazy and adore americans with black skin, I am just saying do not hate the entire race over a couple of fools.

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Alrighty.

This is only my second post here, but I will post my opinion anyways. I got to a school that is 76% Black. I am white. The most intelligent people, the nicest people, the best looking people I have met have been black. Unfortunately I can also say the opposite.

I dont believe that one bit. Maybe they are smart according to the schools lowered standards. Afterall I wouldnt expect much from a city like St. Lious. How do you know they are smart? Do you see their test scores? What is the quality of the tests? I can almost bet your school is way behind others nationally.

BTW in many state legislatures (Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Arkansas, Texas, South Carolina, Virginia, etc) Black Woman have been more successful then white women in being elected to office. Alabama state legislature does not have many women, but over 2/3's of the women elected are black!

lol maybe because their constituents are blacK? I hardly find that an accomplishment.
 
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sorry we in little old england have something to do with that. colonisation has played a massive part in why, as you so wonderfully put it, "Africa is a dump".
I really do fail to understand why a country such as the US which is a nation almost entirely made up of immigrants has such intolerance towards immigrants. I also don't understand why it has on several occasions been referred to as a "White" or "aryan land"....their where other people before the whiteys came


Also in the UK we have a problem with white gangs. They are otherwise known as chavs or scallys. look beyond the borders for once!

We were always a nation comprised of white European immigrants not third world immigrants. There is a difference. So you are honestly going to blame Africas failures on the evil white man? :rolleyes:
 

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I dont believe that one bit. Maybe they are smart according to the schools lowered standards. Afterall I wouldnt expect much from a city like St. Lious. How do you know they are smart? Do you see their test scores? What is the quality of the tests? I can almost bet your school is way behind others nationally.

And you come from the hell-hole of California. It use to be a nice state until recently. I believe your IQ is way behind others nationally.

And you stated you were not a racist. From what you say you obviously are. Make up your mind. Whether you like it or not black people will live in the United States and their is nothing you can do about it.

Black people have been through a lot, slavery, jim crow etc. While I agree modern day whiteys are not at fault, It still happened and the damage was done. Fortunately those racists of the past are sitting in hell now.

I bet your so disappointed that George W. Bush is not a racist.

You are entitled to your own opinion. It does not make you a bad person it just makes you wrong, very wrong.

Well, I need to go now.. going out on a date with my boyfriend

James
 
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And you come from the hell-hole of California. It use to be a nice state until recently. I believe your IQ is way behind others nationally.

Yea it used to be a nice state before the invasion of the third world. Its interesting California started to go down the drain when the whites became a minority.

And you stated you were not a racist. From what you say you obviously are. Make up your mind. Whether you like it or not black people will live in the United States and their is nothing you can do about it.

Acknowledging the truth isnt racist. In California schools refuse to give IQ tests to blacks because they continually score below whites. It's the same story nationally. There is nothing I can do about it because whites are brainwashed by tolerance, diversity, multiculturalism etc.

I bet your so disappointed that George W. Bush is not a racist.

I'm disappointed that he is a moron. But you evaded my question. I bet your school is way behind others nationally and I can bet that I am right. Blacks have lower IQs then whites. That is just something we have to accept. Asians have higher IQs then whites, that is just something that I have to accept. I am not going to cry about it like blacks do. The truth hurts. We are only hurting ourselves by refusing to acknowledge it.
 
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