Florida teachers told to remove books from classroom libraries or risk felony prosecution

[j brown's body]

If you show a government making books unavailable to buy then you have a point.

But the taxpayer gets to decide democratically what they want.

The people that hate democracy (you) can't tolerate that because filth is generally not something people want children exposed to in school.

As you fellows are fond of saying around election time: "this isn't a democracy, it's a republic."

I'm impressed by your high level of personal animosity.

 

[CLAX1911]

Lol.

Take civics class. The 1st ammendment applies exclusively to the government. No one else.

no it applies against the government. It is a limit to the government.

The people get the freedom to say they don't want their kids exposed to filth.

With the incessant need to expose kids to filth is why people call this how it is grooming that's what it is.

You need a civics class.

 

[CLAX1911]

As you fellows are fond of saying around election time: "this isn't a democracy, it's a republic."

agreed in the public is for the people not the government. In a Republic the government is the bitch.

I'm impressed by your high level of personal animosity.

It's impressive to you that I have disgust for child grooming?

The only reason people want to expose children to filth is so that they're easier to molest.

You haven't reached the depths of my animosity.

 

[Fishking]

Just wow

Teachers in Manatee County, Florida, are being told to make their classroom libraries — and any other "unvetted" book — inaccessible to students, or risk felony prosecution. The new policy is part of an effort to comply with new laws and regulations championed by Governor Ron DeSantis (R). It is based on the premise, promoted by right-wing advocacy groups, that teachers and librarians are using books to "groom" students or indoctrinate them with leftist ideologies.

Kevin Chapman, the Chief of Staff for the Manatee County School District, told Popular Information that the policy was communicated to principals in a meeting last Wednesday. Individual schools are now in the process of informing teachers and other staff.

Teachers in Manatee County lamented the news on social media. "My heart is broken for Florida students today as I am forced to pack up my classroom library," one Manatee teacher wrote on Facebook.

Another Manatee teacher called the directive "a travesty to education" that interfered with efforts to "connect with books and develop [a] love of lifelong learning."

https://popular.info/p/florida-teachers-told-to-remove-books

Good. There is stuff in books that if you post pages here, on a forum for adults, you'll get hit with an infraction and your post deleted. If it's not suitable for adults to view on an adult forum it shouldn't be given to kids.

 

[NolanVoyd]

no it applies against the government. It is a limit to the government.

It limits the government from limiting speach. Limits them from banning books.

You are very confused.

 

[NolanVoyd]

The only reason people want to expose children to filth is so that they're easier to molest.

Just stop with the lies.

 

[Nickyjo]

If you show a government making books unavailable to buy then you have a point.

But the taxpayer gets to decide democratically what they want.

The people that hate democracy (you) can't tolerate that because filth is generally not something people want children exposed to in school.

Look, at one side on the leftist extrene (that doesn’t hold power) we have those who don’t like anything positive said about the country. On the other side we have some on the right - read the people DeSantis thinks respond to him - cannot tolerate any negative info about the US.

 

[Nickyjo]

Just stop with the lies.

Don’t dignify the comment by calling it a lie.

 

[bomberfox]

50 Shades of Grey has no literary merit. Appropriate or inappropriate doesn't enter into it. I'd be pissed if my kid's school spent money on that book. That's why I asked about Lady Chatterley's Lover.

It doesnt even deserve merit in bdsm terms. It gets the practice so wrong.

 

[Geoist]

Not sure that's true.

Teachers who undermine parents by proselytizing homosexuality and trans sexuality behind the backs of parents are very much interfering with how parents run their homes.

So how exactly do you think teachers are 'proselytizing' gay/trans stuff on students? By telling them to treat them with respect, even if they don't fit the cultural norms?

 

[CLAX1911]

Look, at one side on the leftist extrene (that doesn’t hold power) we have those who don’t like anything positive said about the country. On the other side we have some on the right - read the people DeSantis thinks respond to him - cannot tolerate any negative info about the US.

What does this have to do with a school being brought to submit to its district?

 

[CLAX1911]

Just stop with the lies.

Just stop with this cockamamie response.

 

[CLAX1911]

It limits the government from limiting speach. Limits them from banning books.

You are very confused.

They aren't banning books. The people that own the library just don't want to pay for it to host pornography for children.

Why is that such an issue?

 

[NolanVoyd]

They aren't banning books. The people that own the library just don't want to pay for it to host pornography for children.

Why is that such an issue?

First, It isn't pornagraphy for children. Just stop with that lie.

Secondly, the first ammendment applies only to government. the government dictating what books must be removed from the public library is a violation.

But hey how about this, if the people that pay the bills for all the damage caused by gun violence get tired of it we can just terminate the right to bear arms......because democracy.

You know damned well it doesn't work that way.

 

[CLAX1911]

First, It isn't pornagraphy for children. Just stop with that lie.

Okay groomer material.

I'm not respecting this and you begging me to is pathetic.

Secondly, the first ammendment applies only to government.

No that's fascism it applies to the people the government is our student.

the government dictating what books must be removed from the public library is a violation.

The government dictating that taxpayers must pay and support filth in their libraries is fascism.

DeSantis is stopping you. That's the problem.

But hey how about this, if the people that pay the bills for all the damage caused by gun violence get tired of it we can just terminate the right to bear arms......because democracy.

yeah if enough people stupidity believe people owing guns magically cause murder they can amend the constitution.

It's just a profoundly dumb idea that only partisan hacks believe so you'll never get enough.

You know damned well it doesn't work that way.

Exactly the Democratic process never works where deranged weirdos get to force their ideas on others. You are thinking Mussolini's Italy.

Glad I don't live in your dump of a view on what our country should be

 

[Uncensored2008]

“The Democrat(ic) Party has made sexual grooming of children a major initiative of the party.” Didn’t know that. Will have to keep an eye on the kids at our next meeting.

Of course you know that, as does everyone else in the nation. When Florida drafted the Anti-Grooming, the democrat Reich absolutely lost their shit - it was the hill that democrats would die on - Grooming now and forever.

But congratulations. Paranoia, slander and idiocy wrapped up in one sentence.

You deny that democrats went to war over the Florida Anti-Grooming law?

The next time a leftist is honest about anything, will be the first time.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Lol.

Take civics class. The 1st ammendment applies exclusively to the government. No one else.

You first.

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Now, a distinction between a school library and a public library must be acknowledged - while the SCOTUS recognizes that school boards have the authority to regulate content as the arbiters of curriculum, this authority does not extend to public libraries. However even in public libraries certain limits on materials are placed. Most libraries will not carry pornographic materials, for instance.

 

[Uncensored2008]

As you fellows are fond of saying around election time: "this isn't a democracy, it's a republic."

I'm impressed by your high level of personal animosity.

Sadly, those of the fascist left tend to be abysmally ignorant and rarely know what a Republic is.

A school board duly elected by the citizens of the district is the definition of a republic.

Perhaps if public schools spent less time on grooming, and more on civics this wouldn't be such a mystery.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It limits the government from limiting speach. Limits them from banning books.

You are very confused.

You do grasp that not putting "The Happy Hooker" in 3rd grade classrooms isn't really "banning" it, right?

And remember, the fascist left has removed books like "Huckleberry Finn" and "To Kill a Mockingbird" for decades, because they don't like the content.

 

[j brown's body]

Sadly, those of the fascist left tend to be abysmally ignorant and rarely know what a Republic is.

A school board duly elected by the citizens of the district is the definition of a republic.

Perhaps if public schools spent less time on grooming, and more on civics this wouldn't be such a mystery.

Yes, we use representatives to determine what goes in school libraries and curriculum. We do not elect books and principals.

Thank you for carrying my main point out out to its logical conclusion.

 

[j brown's body]

You do grasp that not putting "The Happy Hooker" in 3rd grade classrooms isn't really "banning" it, right?

And remember, the fascist left has removed books like "Huckleberry Finn" and "To Kill a Mockingbird" for decades, because they don't like the content.

Can you show where those books have been removed from school libraries?

 

[j brown's body]

Of course you know that, as does everyone else in the nation. When Florida drafted the Anti-Grooming, the democrat Reich absolutely lost their shit - it was the hill that democrats would die on - Grooming now and forever.




You deny that democrats went to war over the Florida Anti-Grooming law?

The next time a leftist is honest about anything, will be the first time.

What do you mean when you say "grooming?"

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes, we use representatives to determine what goes in school libraries and curriculum. We do not elect books and principals.

Wow...

The elected school boards chose the books and the principles. If parents don't like their choices, they vote them out.

Thank you for carrying my main point out out to its logical conclusion.

Uh, I don't think so....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Can you show where those books have been removed from school libraries?

Can I show you that water is wet?

MSN

I checked Roget's and "democrat" isn't listed as a synonym of "stupid?" Why not?

 

[Uncensored2008]

What do you mean when you say "grooming?"

democrats are Nazis. And water is wet.

Some events cause the Nazi party to become so deranged that their carefully crafted facade cracks and you see them in all their evil. Such is the case with the Anti-Grooming bill in Florida that stops public school teachers from sexualizing 4 and 5 year olds. The Nazi democrats have decided this is the hill they will die on, grooming now and forever.

But why?

"democrats just want to diddle kiddies" is the stock answer. But is that really it? Are all 81 million democrats, living and dead pedophiles? Some are to be sure, Joe Biden. But for the most part this misses the mark of what the democrats are trying to do.

Ultimately the goal of democrats is the destruction of America and the establishment of totalitarian dictatorship. democrats are Nazis. What this is, is critical theory in action. Young children are brought into the public schools and divided into oppressors, the hated whites, and oppressed, everyone else. A 4 or 5 year child is brought into the viper pit that is the public schools and either taught that they are an oppressed minority who should hate white oppressors or they are white and evil oppressors.

A 5 year old white child has no understanding of "oppression." They only know that teacher says they're bad, and they don't know what they did, they just want to please teacher. But they are the oppressor, they are bad and nothing they do can make it better.

Until one day teacher tells them that trans and non-binary kids are special and good like the non-white kids, all they have to do is be trans, and they will no longer be hated, but beloved oppressed minorities.

You see, it has nothing to with democrats wanting to diddle kids, the Nazis are creating Hitler Youth, they are destroying the cultural identity of children and replacing it with one they can control and manipulate.

It is CRITICAL that the Nazis indoctrinate children at an extremely young age for this to work.