Florida GOP bans teaching students to "feel guilty" for history

[Crakhobarbie]

Unbelievably, The Florida Senate voted Thursday to ban public schools and private businesses from teaching people to feel guilty for historical events committed by people of their race. I wonder if this includes teaching kids of German heritage about Hitler... After all, it might make them "feel bad". Will Italian children no longer learn about Mussolini? What's funny is conservatives call liberals "snowflakes", then they go and ban "feeling bad" about history. You can't make this shite up!

Florida Senate passes GOP-backed ban on teaching students to 'feel guilt' for history | CNN Politics

The Florida Senate voted Thursday to ban public schools and private businesses from teaching people to feel guilty for historical events committed by people of their race, addressing a top priority of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

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[tacomancer]

I don't even understand the reasoning behind this. If some people from a previous generation did something before these students were born, there is no reason for those students to feel guilty even if those past events or people bear some superficial resemblance to them (ethnicity, point of view, religion, or whatever). Each person is an individual and is responsible for their actions. Looking at guilt in terms of group identity is just primitive and stupid.

It doesn't mean structural problems shouldn't be corrected or that people should not be aware of their inherent advantages due to whatever attributes they possess, but that's not a reason for guilt, just awareness.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

It turns out facts care about your feelings after all.

 

[Michael Cole]

Very Putinesque, actually.

I don't see how this passes constitutional muster. Private businesses? Please. I can teach anything I want from a private business. Freedom of speech.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

The Small government, keep the government out of our lives and businesses Republicans strike again..

What a bunch of hypocrites..

 

[Crakhobarbie]

I don't even understand the reasoning behind this. If some previous generation did something before these students were born, there is no reason for those students to feel guilty even if those past events or people bear some superficial resemblance to them (ethnicity, point of view, religion, or whatever). Each person is an individual and is responsible for their actions. Looking at life in terms of group identity is just primitive and stupid.

It doesn't mean structural problems shouldn't be corrected or that people should not be aware of their inherent advantages due to whatever attributes they possess, but that's not a reason for guilt, just awareness.

The GOP has lost its way. The problem stems from electing morons to lead them. Have you seen the average attendee at a Trump rally? Literally a gaggle of cosplay morons dressed up like it's Halloween. It's the stupifying of Western Civilization.

 

[Jkca1]

Can you imagine DeSantis as President? Seriously folks. We have to stop choosing idiots for office.

 

[code1211]

Unbelievably, The Florida Senate voted Thursday to ban public schools and private businesses from teaching people to feel guilty for historical events committed by people of their race. I wonder if this includes teaching kids of German heritage about Hitler... After all, it might make them "feel bad". Will Italian children no longer learn about Mussolini? What's funny is conservatives call liberals "snowflakes", then they go and ban "feeling bad" about history. You can't make this shite up!

Florida Senate passes GOP-backed ban on teaching students to 'feel guilt' for history | CNN Politics

The Florida Senate voted Thursday to ban public schools and private businesses from teaching people to feel guilty for historical events committed by people of their race, addressing a top priority of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

www.google.com

I suppose a racist would oppose stopping the divisions endorsed by today's Democrats.

When will it be accepted by the divisionist racists that our country has had some problems, but most of the problems are now behind us?

As a nation, we have worked through most of our race-based issues and can only work through the rest as a united people working together to solve the remaining issues?

Interpersonal problem solving involves cooperation with all stake holders working toward the same goal(s).

Employing assigned blame and demanded retribution by hate filled dividers working only to further divide is counter productive.

I never owned a slave and never was a slave. I have never known anyone who owned a slave or was a slave. I was alive when the Southern Democrats gave up the segregation they implemented.

I've lived through the various, sometimes painful, stages of our long national pursuit of extending all freedoms to all people. Equal opportunity and protections under the law seems to be a reality at this point.

It might be nice to return to the healing goals of MLK and discard the hate filled propaganda of BLM.

 

[Cardinal]

Who’s surprised that the **** Your Feelings crowd is passing laws that literally protect their feelings?

 

[independentusa]

Unbelievably, The Florida Senate voted Thursday to ban public schools and private businesses from teaching people to feel guilty for historical events committed by people of their race. I wonder if this includes teaching kids of German heritage about Hitler... After all, it might make them "feel bad". Will Italian children no longer learn about Mussolini? What's funny is conservatives call liberals "snowflakes", then they go and ban "feeling bad" about history. You can't make this shite up!

Florida Senate passes GOP-backed ban on teaching students to 'feel guilt' for history | CNN Politics

The Florida Senate voted Thursday to ban public schools and private businesses from teaching people to feel guilty for historical events committed by people of their race, addressing a top priority of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

www.google.com

Basically it outlaws teaching history at all. The GOP seems to be teaching their children to be weenies.

 

[independentusa]

I suppose a racist would oppose stopping the divisions endorsed by today's Democrats.

When will it be accepted by the divisionist racists that our country has had some problems, but most of the problems are now behind us?

As a nation, we have worked through most of our race-based issues and can only work through the rest as a united people working together to solve the remaining issues?

Interpersonal problem solving involves cooperation with all stake holders working toward the same goal(s).

Employing assigned blame and demanded retribution by hate filled dividers working only to further divide is counter productive.

I never owned a slave and never was a slave. I have never known anyone who owned a slave or was a slave. I was alive when the Southern Democrats gave up the segregation they implemented.

I've lived through the various, sometimes painful, stages of our long national pursuit of extending all freedoms to all people. Equal opportunity and protections under the law seems to be a reality at this point.

It might be nice to return to the healing goals of MLK and discard the hate filled propaganda of BLM.

Yoou must live in an all white area as if you lived near enough to blacks to understand what they go through you would not write such crap. To thin kwe haave worked through most of our race based issues is a laugh. People who believe as you do are blind to what is gong on in this country or just naive.

 

[Michael Cole]

I suppose a racist would oppose stopping the divisions endorsed by today's Democrats.

When will it be accepted by the divisionist racists that our country has had some problems, but most of the problems are now behind us?

As a nation, we have worked through most of our race-based issues and can only work through the rest as a united people working together to solve the remaining issues?

Interpersonal problem solving involves cooperation with all stake holders working toward the same goal(s).

Employing assigned blame and demanded retribution by hate filled dividers working only to further divide is counter productive.

I never owned a slave and never was a slave. I have never known anyone who owned a slave or was a slave. I was alive when the Southern Democrats gave up the segregation they implemented.

I've lived through the various, sometimes painful, stages of our long national pursuit of extending all freedoms to all people. Equal opportunity and protections under the law seems to be a reality at this point.

It might be nice to return to the healing goals of MLK and discard the hate filled propaganda of BLM.

Cool story. I'm not into fantasy, but cool anyway.

The Florida Senate voted Thursday to ban public schools and private businesses from teaching people to feel guilty for historical events committed by people of their race, addressing a top priority of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Please explain to me how the above bolded is anything but fascist.

What happened to freedumbz? Or was that last week?

 

[Crakhobarbie]

I suppose a racist would oppose stopping the divisions endorsed by today's Democrats.

When will it be accepted by the divisionist racists that our country has had some problems, but most of the problems are now behind us?

As a nation, we have worked through most of our race-based issues and can only work through the rest as a united people working together to solve the remaining issues?

Interpersonal problem solving involves cooperation with all stake holders working toward the same goal(s).

Employing assigned blame and demanded retribution by hate filled dividers working only to further divide is counter productive.

I never owned a slave and never was a slave. I have never known anyone who owned a slave or was a slave. I was alive when the Southern Democrats gave up the segregation they implemented.

I've lived through the various, sometimes painful, stages of our long national pursuit of extending all freedoms to all people. Equal opportunity and protections under the law seems to be a reality at this point.

It might be nice to return to the healing goals of MLK and discard the hate filled propaganda of BLM.

From your multiple paragraphs of Gish gallop it appears you support your fellow GOP in their endeavor. I guess avoiding those pesky memories of when ones ancestors thought they were the "master" race would benefit ones psyche.

 

[Michael Cole]

I guess the biggest unanswered question I have is, who the hell is teaching anyone to feel guilty? I mean, I'm not a freak, but I've met many such people, and outside of freakdom, I can't think of any activity that 'teaches' people to feel guilty.

My next question is, how is 'race' defined? The scientific evidence shows all humans came 'out of Africa.' Therefore, we are all black.

What's next? Act with abandon? The complete removal of guilt from the American psyche? Are we creating a nation of narcissists?

 

[Moon]

Unbelievably, The Florida Senate voted Thursday to ban public schools and private businesses from teaching people to feel guilty for historical events committed by people of their race. I wonder if this includes teaching kids of German heritage about Hitler... After all, it might make them "feel bad". Will Italian children no longer learn about Mussolini? What's funny is conservatives call liberals "snowflakes", then they go and ban "feeling bad" about history. You can't make this shite up!

Florida Senate passes GOP-backed ban on teaching students to 'feel guilt' for history | CNN Politics

The Florida Senate voted Thursday to ban public schools and private businesses from teaching people to feel guilty for historical events committed by people of their race, addressing a top priority of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

www.google.com

It’s not banning the teaching of anything. It bans assigning blame for past racial reasons incidents to modern people of the same race. To use your examples, is it acceptable to blame people of Italian descent for the things Mussolini did? Or do you blame modern Germans for the horrific crimes Hitler committed?

 

[Michael Cole]

It’s not banning the teaching of anything. It bans assigning blame for past racial reasons incidents to modern people of the same race. To use your examples, is it acceptable to blame people of Italian descent for the things Mussolini did? Or do you blame modern Germans for the horrific crimes Hitler committed?

These sneaky laws bring out the fantasies in everyone.

WHO IS TEACHING PEOPLE TO FEEL GUILTY BECAUSE THEY'RE WHITE?

Where is this occurring? One example would be nice.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

It’s not banning the teaching of anything. It bans assigning blame for past racial reasons incidents to modern people of the same race. To use your examples, is it acceptable to blame people of Italian descent for the things Mussolini did? Or do you blame modern Germans for the horrific crimes Hitler committed?

How do we teach the history of WW2 without blaming the Germans?

I'm mostly Italian, I had nothing to do with Mussolini or the Italian Mafia... But when people talk about them and learn about them there's still an attachment to my heritage...

I don't know how we separate the 2...

 

[WIGDViking]

Basically it outlaws teaching history at all. The GOP seems to be teaching their children to be weenies.

Bad things have happened in the course of history,and we have raised such a fragile generation that they can’t be told about them.

Keep them in the dark and history is destined to repeat itself.:.

 

[What if...?]

Unbelievably, The Florida Senate voted Thursday to ban public schools and private businesses from teaching people to feel guilty for historical events committed by people of their race. I wonder if this includes teaching kids of German heritage about Hitler... After all, it might make them "feel bad". Will Italian children no longer learn about Mussolini? What's funny is conservatives call liberals "snowflakes", then they go and ban "feeling bad" about history. You can't make this shite up!

Florida Senate passes GOP-backed ban on teaching students to 'feel guilt' for history | CNN Politics

The Florida Senate voted Thursday to ban public schools and private businesses from teaching people to feel guilty for historical events committed by people of their race, addressing a top priority of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

www.google.com

Never have understood the “ashamed of yourself for something somebody long dead did” narrative. Those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them and all that. What that dead person did long ago doesn’t paint you at all just because your genetics are similar.

Of course if you are a racist you are already stupid, and stupid should be painful. So suck it up, snowflakes. Your kids are already better people, more tolerant of the freedom of others. Racism is dying with your generations.

 

[Moon]

How do we teach the history of WW2 without blaming the Germans?

I'm mostly Italian, I had nothing to do with Mussolini or the Italian Mafia... But when people talk about them and learn about them there's still an attachment to my heritage...

I don't know how we separate the 2...

Blaming Germans for WWII is fine, but if you tell young Michael Schulz sitting in your class that he is responsible because of his lineage, that’s not okay.

 

[Moon]

These sneaky laws bring out the fantasies in everyone.

WHO IS TEACHING PEOPLE TO FEEL GUILTY BECAUSE THEY'RE WHITE?

Where is this occurring? One example would be nice.

If it’s not happening then there’s no harm, right?

 

[Peacenik]

The Florida GOP are the ones who should be feeling guilty for violating the 1st Amendment.

 

[Michael Cole]

If it’s not happening then there’s no harm, right?

Uhhh...that's the point.

Do you think it's wise to enact laws against something that isn't occurring? Do you find this to be a prudent use of time and money? Of course, it isn't. Therefore, something else is driving these laws. I know what it is. Do you?

 

[Peacenik]

I don't even understand the reasoning behind this. If some people from a previous generation did something before these students were born, there is no reason for those students to feel guilty even if those past events or people bear some superficial resemblance to them (ethnicity, point of view, religion, or whatever). Each person is an individual and is responsible for their actions. Looking at guilt in terms of group identity is just primitive and stupid.

It doesn't mean structural problems shouldn't be corrected or that people should not be aware of their inherent advantages due to whatever attributes they possess, but that's not a reason for guilt, just awareness.

Which generation is not critical of the preceding one?

Does this law now mandate a refusal to learn from past mistakes?

 

[Moon]

Uhhh...that's the point.

Do you think it's wise to enact laws against something that isn't occurring? Do you find this to be a prudent use of time and money? Of course, it isn't. Therefore, something else is driving these laws. I know what it is. Do you?

Do tell.