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Florida bill would ban young girls from discussing periods in school

Dark Brandon sees you, infidel.
I'm going to lie low for a while; Dark Brandon and his bat wings terrify me as much as the flying monkeys did back when I was a wee child.

Out of here....
 
From the author of the bill himself:

“So if little girls experience their menstrual cycle in fifth grade or fourth grade, will that prohibit conversations from them since they are in the grade lower than sixth grade?” Gantt asked.

McClain responded, “It would.”
To start with I don't see a problem with a school helping a child understand something like this at a time when she is experiencing it. Imo it's overly restrictive to prevent girls from being able to talk to a teacher or the nurse about it if that's what this law will do.

On the flip side and I think this is an important point that many have lost sight of is that parents have a role in teaching their children things they need to know. School is a parental aid meant to assist but they are not in charge of how children turn out. When parents opinions clash with the schools, the parents opinions win. If parents don't want 8yr olds being taught about menstrual cycles then the schools must respect that even if they disagree with it.
 
"As Florida Republicans are introducing and advancing a wave of bills on gender and diversity that are likely to be signed into law by Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), one GOP lawmaker acknowledged this week that his proposed sexual health bill would ban girls from talking about their menstrual cycles in school.

...McClain’s proposed legislation is among a spate of new Republican-sponsored bills that could reshape K-12 and higher education in Florida. Bills filed by GOP state representatives and senators in recent weeks range from requiring teachers to use pronouns matching children’s sex as assigned at birth to establishing a universal school-choice voucher program. Other proposed legislation would eliminate college majors in gender studies, cut diversity efforts at universities and job protections for tenured faculty, strengthen parents’ ability to veto K-12 class materials and extend a ban on teaching about gender and sexuality — from third grade up to eighth grade."

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The Republicans are running quite the repressive regime in Florida. Power has really gone to their heads.

The right-wingers may tell us that it is not age appropriate for a girl to talk about her own period.
Un****ingreal. Are they trying to go back to the dark ages?
 
My Bible makes it perfectly clear that women are unclean during their "lady times" and are untouchables until they've been cleared by a religious leader to return to decent society.

Old Testament - no longer applies.
 
I'm going to lie low for a while; Dark Brandon and his bat wings terrify me as much as the flying monkeys did back when I was a wee child.

Out of here....
OMG, those flying monkeys gave me nightmares....
 
I look forward to the left mislabling this as the "Don't say tampon" law! :ROFLMAO:
Notice how you didn’t actually oppose the bill
 
To start with I don't see a problem with a school helping a child understand something like this at a time when she is experiencing it. Imo it's overly restrictive to prevent girls from being able to talk to a teacher or the nurse about it if that's what this law will do.

On the flip side and I think this is an important point that many have lost sight of is that parents have a role in teaching their children things they need to know. School is a parental aid meant to assist but they are not in charge of how children turn out. When parents opinions clash with the schools, the parents opinions win. If parents don't want 8yr olds being taught about menstrual cycles then the schools must respect that even if they disagree with it.
The problem is too many parents aren't teaching it which leads to more teen pregnancies. I was about that age when I was taught about reproduction and how to prevent pregnancy. I didn't have sex until age 20 so no teen pregnancies and my brother didn't knock anyone up until his 20s (they were headed toward marriage anyway).
 
Another rich propaganda piece.

What about men in women’s bathrooms and competing in sports.

The left attacks women and then advocates for them. Does it even make any sense? Nope.
propaganda? Are you really saying this bill wasn't proposed? Got proof that it wasn't? Why in the name of all that is holy would anyone propose not allowing a girl talk about her period?
 
Florida has been busy with this cultural stuff; I don’t think these issues are that important to most voters. The economy, crime, health care, jobs, inflation, climate change, immigration etc. are the major issues. To most, I think these are side issues unless one is a die-hard ideologue on one side or the other. I can agree that any type of sex education shouldn’t be taught to kids in K-8th grade. To me those kids are too young. They have in all this other stuff gone too far, overboard. School Vouchers has been a hot topic for decades now, that is another I understand. Letting parents have the ability to get their kids from poorer schools to better schools make sense to me. We used to have race relations classes when I was in the army, it’s called something else today. But something like that for High School kids, perhaps Junior High depending which could include trans-genders. What I found is kids being kids go out and play with each other regardless of race and have loads of fun when young. This hatred of different races must be taught at some time during a kids growing up period. A learned trait.



How will all this culture war stuff play if DeSantis enters the presidential race? It may help him in the Republican primaries. I don’t think it will be an asset to him in the general election, quite the opposite. But that the main, normal issues like inflation, crime, the economy, jobs, healthcare etc. will probably override the cultural stuff as it usually does. I’ve found out over the years that those who vote on cultural issues one way or the other have been die hard voters for one party or the other for decades. It’s the main issues and how the country along with one’s own personal life are doing that will decide how swing voters vote.
girls can marry at age 13 in new hampshire. 14 for boys
 
The problem is too many parents aren't teaching it which leads to more teen pregnancies. I was about that age when I was taught about reproduction and how to prevent pregnancy. I didn't have sex until age 20 so no teen pregnancies and my brother didn't knock anyone up until his 20s (they were headed toward marriage anyway).
You think you are entitled to circumvent parental authority and teach children things that parents don't approve of and that's the problem in a nutshell. You and your ilk are screwing with people's families.

If you are determined to screw up a kid go have your own.
 
A creepy and scary proposal.
How is this possibly enforceable without violating the first amendment? What creep thought of this perversion and what did they hope to achieve?

You think you are entitled to circumvent parental authority and teach children things that parents don't approve of and that's the problem in a nutshell. You and your ilk are screwing with people's families.

If you are determined to screw up a kid go have your own.
Public health is a social problem that we all face and must be taught, just like COVID and vaccines. We as a society cannot afford planned ignorance trying to hide behind partisanship or religious belief.
 
The GOP lawmaker representing Ocala, Fla., later clarified that it “would not be the intent” of the bill to punish girls if they came to teachers with questions or concerns about their menstrual cycle, adding that he’d be “amenable” to amendments if they were to come up.

He mis-spoke. Moving on.
While the legislator may well claim that it "would not be the intent" of the bill to punish girls if they came to teachers with questions or concerns about their menstrual cycle, he doesn't appear to be overly upset about the fact that that IS a perfectly foreseeable outcome. (He also doesn't appear to be overly upset about the fact that the teachers could be punished if they actually answered the questions - nor does he appear to have any interest in proposing any amendments himself [and will probably vote in favour of the bill if it is presented without any amendments].)
 
I'm going down to visit my aunt in a couple of weeks, and while I love her dearly, I dread the inevitable political talk. Her husband is 100% Trump, and even though she promised he would keep a lid on it....I'm skeptical. **sigh**
I can relate. I became estranged from a whole lot of my wife's family over Trump. I couldn't keep my mouth shut so to speak when they would start going on about things I knew damned well weren't as they were saying they were. Actually the problems began back with President Obama and her family. But it all ended with Trump. Lost some good friends that way as well.

I have gotten much better at holding my tongue, but I am afraid the bridges were all burned?!
 
Florida has been busy with this cultural stuff; I don’t think these issues are that important to most voters. The economy, crime, health care, jobs, inflation, climate change, immigration etc. are the major issues. To most, I think these are side issues unless one is a die-hard ideologue on one side or the other. I can agree that any type of sex education shouldn’t be taught to kids in K-8th grade.
In 2020 there were 1,765 US females UNDER the age of 15 who got pregnant 0.0005% of the US population). There were also 38,578 US females 15 to 17 (0.0115%) who got pregnant and another 158,043 (0.0470%) between the aged 18 or 19 who got pregnant.

That's a grand total of 0.059%

Obviously there is absolutely no need for any sex education in American schools whatsoever since the number of US females 19 or younger who got pregnant is such a small percentage of the American population. Right?
To me those kids are too young. They have in all this other stuff gone too far, overboard.
Pushed your "comfort zone" did they?
School Vouchers has been a hot topic for decades now, that is another I understand. Letting parents have the ability to get their kids from poorer schools to better schools make sense to me.
Yep, and when you take the 500 kids from the poorer (read as "mostly 'Black' students) and ship them off to the "better school" that has an enrollment of 500, those 1,000 kids are all going to get the same quality of education as the 500 that had previously gone to the "better school" because the taxpayers are going to joyfully pony up the several millions of dollars to design and construct (on a "crash priority" basis) the additional facilities that the "better school" will have to have to accommodate the extra 500 students. Suuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee they are.
We used to have race relations classes when I was in the army, it’s called something else today.
It's commonly referred to as "Diversity Training".
But something like that for High School kids, perhaps Junior High depending which could include trans-genders.
Unfortunately, if you want to do that, you have to actually teach the reality of the history as well as the reality of contemporary society and doing that isn't allowed (where it is most needed) because it's "woke".
What I found is kids being kids go out and play with each other regardless of race and have loads of fun when young. This hatred of different races must be taught at some time during a kids growing up period. A learned trait.
Indeed, but you aren't allowed to teach that because that would be "woke" and might make the people who are teaching the kids that other kids are inferior because of some quirk of genetics feel bad about themselves.
How will all this culture war stuff play if DeSantis enters the presidential race? It may help him in the Republican primaries. I don’t think it will be an asset to him in the general election, quite the opposite.
Well, it will give the members of "Claque Failed Casino Operator" someone to vote for - won't it?
But that the main, normal issues like inflation, crime, the economy, jobs, healthcare etc. will probably override the cultural stuff as it usually does.
Not if those who want to see a reactionary and "fundamentalist theocratic" America have anything to do with it.
I’ve found out over the years that those who vote on cultural issues one way or the other have been die hard voters for one party or the other for decades. It’s the main issues and how the country along with one’s own personal life are doing that will decide how swing voters vote.
Most of those "swing voters" belong to the category that was known (where I choose to live) as "30 Second Socreds". Those were the people who moaned and griped about "Da Gummint" for 31,557,550 seconds out of the year, and then marked their ballots to keep the same party that had been the giverning party as the governing party in the 30 seconds left over.
 
Another rich propaganda piece.

What about men in women’s bathrooms and competing in sports.
How about you remember that [1] women's bathrooms don't have places where you can publicly urinate and/or defecate, and that [2] for a "trandgendered" person to "qualify" to use the bathroom of their adjusted gender they must have completed the physical transformation process?

As far as men competing in sports, I don't have any reservations about it whatsoever. Men should be allowed to compete in sports.
The left attacks women and then advocates for them. Does it even make any sense? Nope.
Aside from the fact that your premises are incorrect and your logic faulty, your statement makes a whole lot of sense.
 
"As Florida Republicans are introducing and advancing a wave of bills on gender and diversity that are likely to be signed into law by Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), one GOP lawmaker acknowledged this week that his proposed sexual health bill would ban girls from talking about their menstrual cycles in school.

...McClain’s proposed legislation is among a spate of new Republican-sponsored bills that could reshape K-12 and higher education in Florida. Bills filed by GOP state representatives and senators in recent weeks range from requiring teachers to use pronouns matching children’s sex as assigned at birth to establishing a universal school-choice voucher program. Other proposed legislation would eliminate college majors in gender studies, cut diversity efforts at universities and job protections for tenured faculty, strengthen parents’ ability to veto K-12 class materials and extend a ban on teaching about gender and sexuality — from third grade up to eighth grade."

Link

The Republicans are running quite the repressive regime in Florida. Power has really gone to their heads.

The right-wingers may tell us that it is not age appropriate for a girl to talk about her own period.
The crap rag WaPo. Don't you read anything else? I can't access it and wouldn't pay a nickle to read WaPo. IO find it doubtful that a bill is going to stop girls from discussing their periods as it would be a violation of free speech.'

Everything else is GREAT! We need to destroy the cesspool that is public schools.
 
Does anyone know of anything Desantis is actually FOR? I mean he's;
  • Against girls talking about their periods
  • Against education (teachers and books)
  • Against CRT
  • Against "Woke" (which is so undefined & general that when he finds something he dislikes he tags it with "woke" and then attacks it)
I mean, WTF is this guy for doing aside from deconstructing?
He's going to make America great again by building back better so that the country can be as rich, prosperous, and free as it was in the 50s (although it's a bit unclear if he is talking about the 1950s or the 1850s) when everyone asked not what their country could do for them, but rather asked what they could do for their country.
 
"As Florida Republicans are introducing and advancing a wave of bills on gender and diversity that are likely to be signed into law by Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), one GOP lawmaker acknowledged this week that his proposed sexual health bill would ban girls from talking about their menstrual cycles in school.

...McClain’s proposed legislation is among a spate of new Republican-sponsored bills that could reshape K-12 and higher education in Florida. Bills filed by GOP state representatives and senators in recent weeks range from requiring teachers to use pronouns matching children’s sex as assigned at birth to establishing a universal school-choice voucher program. Other proposed legislation would eliminate college majors in gender studies, cut diversity efforts at universities and job protections for tenured faculty, strengthen parents’ ability to veto K-12 class materials and extend a ban on teaching about gender and sexuality — from third grade up to eighth grade."

Link

The Republicans are running quite the repressive regime in Florida. Power has really gone to their heads.

The right-wingers may tell us that it is not age appropriate for a girl to talk about her own period.
It’s nobody’s ****ing business except immediate family
 
I can relate. I became estranged from a whole lot of my wife's family over Trump. I couldn't keep my mouth shut so to speak when they would start going on about things I knew damned well weren't as they were saying they were. Actually the problems began back with President Obama and her family. But it all ended with Trump. Lost some good friends that way as well.

I have gotten much better at holding my tongue, but I am afraid the bridges were all burned?!
/Respect
I lost several good friends for the same reason
 
The GOP hasn't actually built anything since 1992.
Now that's simply not true. The Republicans built a big beautiful wall and had the Mexicans pay for it. And you do have to admit that, during the time that Mr. Trump was president the Republicans built a really significant addition to the national debt.
 
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