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Flashback: In 1982 Joe Biden Voted for Constitutional Amendment to Overturn Roe v Wade and Make It a State Issue

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Well I declare! It seems the elderly dementia addled usurper has some explaining to do. He needs to be grilled by Peter Doocy asap.


 
Well I declare! It seems the elderly dementia addled usurper has some explaining to do. He needs to be grilled by Peter Doocy asap.



Back in 1999 your MAGA crush said that he was "very pro-choice" and he supported partial birth abortion. He also tried to get his mistress Marla Maples to abort the fetus now known as Tiffany Trump. Biden doesn't owe you and the morons at The Gateway Pundit any explanations.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914
 
🤷‍♂️ The culture was in a different place in 1982.
 
Well I declare! It seems the elderly dementia addled usurper has some explaining to do. He needs to be grilled by Peter Doocy asap.



Politicians rarely flip-flop, yet many evolve their positions. ;)

The perfect politician will promise to ‘fight like hell’ for all three sides of a given issue, yet profess to be somewhat against it under certain (but unnamed) circumstances.
 
Politicians rarely flip-flop, yet many evolve their positions. ;)

The perfect politician will promise to ‘fight like hell’ for all three sides of a given issue, yet profess to be somewhat against it under certain (but unnamed) circumstances.

But he does look good in ray bans, so there's that
 
Joe Biden is a devout Catholic and personally against abortion but he has come to accept the fundamental right of a woman to choose. That by the way would be me too.....well maybe not the devout Catholic part so much.
 
🤷‍♂️ The culture was in a different place in 1982.
OP does bring up a solid point. Biden has a history of basing his opinion on whichever way the wind blows. I don't think "cultural norms at that time dictated that so-and-so belief was popular" is an excuse for backwards views.

Bernie Sanders, for example, was pro civil right and gay rights back when you were jailed for advocating as such.
 
Views on abortion have shifted substantially over the last 40 years. Joe Biden is a person and is just as likely to move with the times as any other person.
 
Well I declare! It seems the elderly dementia addled usurper has some explaining to do. He needs to be grilled by Peter Doocy asap.


Yeah, well, this is 2022 and it looks like the choice in 2024 is going to be Biden who thinks differently than he did 40 years ago, or the disgusting criminal bastard who stacked the court with a conservative majority that apparently lied out both corners of its ass during confirmation hearings.

If you want to move the needle on the Biden vs. Trump thing, you have to wait for Biden to do things worse than the things Trump did. It's about the least worst choice.
 
Views on abortion have shifted substantially over the last 40 years. Joe Biden is a person and is just as likely to move with the times as any other person.

It’s amazing to me that folks are so sure how popular abortion on demand (the pure pro-choice position) is, yet (legitimately?) fear that their state wouldn’t pass such a law. Even Roe (and Casey) SCOTUS abortion ‘rights’ rulings did not mandate abortion on demand - they recognized that allowing ‘reasonable restrictions’ based on the level of fetal development was an unavoidable ‘compromise’.
 
It’s amazing to me that folks are so sure how popular abortion on demand (the pure pro-choice position) is, yet (legitimately?) fear that their state wouldn’t pass such a law. Even Roe (and Casey) SCOTUS abortion ‘rights’ rulings did not mandate abortion on demand - they recognized that allowing ‘reasonable restrictions’ based on the level of fetal development was an unavoidable ‘compromise’.
And the draft opinion recognizes that trimester framework for what it was - crossing the line into legislation. Neither framework in Roe or Casey has any basis in Constitutional law.
 
Well I declare! It seems the elderly dementia addled usurper has some explaining to do. He needs to be grilled by Peter Doocy asap.



I'd like to introduce you to Rocky Giordani.

Rocky Giordani.jpg

I actually MET him IN 1982 in a Venice biker bar and it turned out we knew a few of the same people.
He was what you might call an "enforcer" for a few not so savory enterprises in the area.
Don't take my word for it, call or visit the Morongo Casino out in the desert and I'm sure your inquiry will turn
out satisfactory.
In the 1990's Rocky "found the Lord" and turned his back on, to paraphrase Errol Flynn, "his wicked wicked ways" and in 2016 he decided to try running for President, quite the switch from biker gang enforcer.

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So, my point is, if Rocky can move away from his original positions, I kinda think Joe Biden can, too.

Sorry to ruin your Gateway Pundit GOTCHA!!! moment.
 
I'd like to introduce you to Rocky Giordani.

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I actually MET him IN 1982 in a Venice biker bar and it turned out we knew a few of the same people.
He was what you might call an "enforcer" for a few not so savory enterprises in the area.
Don't take my word for it, call or visit the Morongo Casino out in the desert and I'm sure your inquiry will turn
out satisfactory.
In the 1990's Rocky "found the Lord" and turned his back on, to paraphrase Errol Flynn, "his wicked wicked ways" and in 2016 he decided to try running for President, quite the switch from biker gang enforcer.

200px-Ricky_Giordani.jpg


So, my point is, if Rocky can move away from his original positions, I kinda think Joe Biden can, too.

Sorry to ruin your Gateway Pundit GOTCHA!!! moment.

Until Joe Biden apologizes for what he did to Clarence Thomas he hasn't moved on from anything
 
Joe Biden is a devout Catholic and personally against abortion but he has come to accept the fundamental right of a woman to choose. That by the way would be me too.....well maybe not the devout Catholic part so much.
Exactly how I feel about it. No one likes the idea of an abortion. But we learn to respect the rights of the women.

This is nothing more than an agenda driven power grab by hard right conservatives. Ask them what they have planned for the thousands of newborns created by this decision. I guarantee they will run away from the question.
 
Translation: flip flopping doesn't matter if they are currently supporting the position I agree with
Incorrect, flip flopping doesn’t matter if it’s over decades. People and political platforms do change over time.

I wouldn’t fault some conservative politician for having a different POV on some topic in 1982 either. Honestly, it doesn’t bother me if a politician changes their opinion on something even from five years ago.

I had very different opinions on some things five years ago as well. Growing with more information is a strength.

In terms of the abortion thing, I see both sides of the issue and do not have a firm stance on it.
 
Until Joe Biden apologizes for what he did to Clarence Thomas he hasn't moved on from anything
He's already apologized to Anita Hill. He owes nothing to Thomas. The reality is he should never have allowed the confirmation. He screwed up and he knows it.
 
Incorrect, flip flopping doesn’t matter if it’s over decades. People and political platforms do change over time.

I wouldn’t fault some conservative politician for having a different POV on some topic in 1982 either. Honestly, it doesn’t bother me if a politician changes their opinion on something even from five years ago.

I had very different opinions on some things five years ago as well. Growing with more information is a strength.

In terms of the abortion thing, I see both sides of the issue and do not have a firm stance on it.

What is the exact amount of time that a flip flop becomes irrelevant to you?
 
What is the exact amount of time that a flip flop becomes irrelevant to you?
Reread the second and third block

I don’t consider “flip flopping” to a huge thing anyway
 
Until Joe Biden apologizes for what he did to Clarence Thomas he hasn't moved on from anything

At this point Thomas doesn't deserve an apology for anything as he and his insurrectionist wife proved EVERYTHING Biden ever said was, if anything, an understatement. Anita Hill deserves apologies from Biden AND from Thomas. Of course we're well aware that Ginni Thomas thinks the opposite.
How much IS she paying you, by the way? :LOL:
 
So 5 years? Why do you change your positions so often?
I would say every five years or so I’ve probably changed a major position as I get more info, sure. That’s how people should be, able to grow as they learn.

A good example is I used to be pro-UBI but how people acted during the pandemic caused me to change my position on that.
 
🤷‍♂️ The culture was in a different place in 1982.

Yeah, specifically Democrats hanging their heads in "shame" in reaction to Ronnie Ray Gun's spew.
I'll never understand why Dem response to Reagan was to try and become Republican Lite with self inflicted scarlet letter pendants hanging around their necks.
 
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