Flags burn in celebration

[TheNextEra]

It is possible that I could speed all the time and not get into an accident.

True, but that goes a long the same lines of drinking laws. Sure there is the occational teen that could probably drink responsibly, however the majority don't. The same with speeding. While some would speed with caution, the majority would be out of control and accidents would rise.

 

[::Major_Baker::]

Burning our flag as a sign of disrespect is disloyal,much how these vermoun leftist actors and singers go over to some commie south American country to slander our president.By your logic Timmothy Mcviegh was was only exercising his "freedom of expression" and showing his dislike for the goverment when he blew up a federal building.

:attn1: did you just compare burning a flag to blowing up a federal building with people inside it? :attn1:

 

[Alex]

True, but that goes a long the same lines of drinking laws. Sure there is the occational teen that could probably drink responsibly, however the majority don't. The same with speeding. While some would speed with caution, the majority would be out of control and accidents would rise.

That is where probability comes in. It is more probable to harm someone from speeding or drinking and driving than flag-burning.

I also do not accept drinking laws as legit. A person can drink and still drive fine, they are separate issues. This does not mean I condone accidents caused by drinking and driving. If you drink and drive and it causes an accident, then you are liable.

 

[jamesrage]

You know as a rule I do not respond to your posts because they're so far off the scale of rationality that it's useless to debate you.

Normally I do not respond to whiny little girly men who run off to cry to mods when ever there is something they disagree with but I'll make an exception for you.

This post you just wrote is the perfect example of that illogical and lack of reasoning.

The if you don't like it don't do it in reguards to keeping certian despicable things legal is an example of something that is illogocal and lacks reasoning.

For anyone to compare burning a flag to murder or sex with an animal is an excellent example of a person not worthy of debating...

If you open the door to something with bullshit logic you open it for other bullshit.So if you do not like ****ing animals do not **** animals let it be legal for the peta morons.

 

[jamesrage]

:attn1: did you just compare burning a flag to blowing up a federal building with people inside it? :attn1:

Only a disloyal/unpatriotic American would commit a terrorist act on his or her own country,only a disloyal/unpatriotic american would burn thier nations flag as sign of disrespect and only a disloyal/unpatriotic American sees our flag as nothing more than a worthless snot rag not worthy of any protection.

 

[KidRocks]

By that logic we should make every indecent thing legal.If you don't like murder then do not murder,if you do not like stealing then do not steal,if you do not like speeding 20 miles above the speed limit then do not speed.If you do not like beastality then do not have sex with animals, and the list of things made legal could go on and on.

Only in your fascist-like mind!

LOL...and loving it!!!

 

[::Major_Baker::]

Only a disloyal/unpatriotic American would commit a terrorist act on his or her own country,only a disloyal/unpatriotic american would burn thier nations flag as sign of disrespect and only a disloyal/unpatriotic American sees our flag as nothing more than a worthless snot rag not worthy of any protection.

And a normal person sees the flag as a symbol that can be freely expressed upon if desired.

 

[jamesrage]

And a normal person sees the flag as a symbol that can be freely expressed upon if desired.

A normal person would see our flag for what it is, which is a symbol of our country.Not some little snot rag unworthy of protection.

 

[::Major_Baker::]

A normal person would see our flag for what it is, which is a symbol of our country.Not some little snot rag unworthy of protection.

I think our country can stick up for itself against some erratic protester, don't you think? She's been through a lot more than that.

 

[Navy Pride]

Its amazing how some of our friends on the left have so little respect for the piece of cloth called Old Glory.........Many a brave men has given his life to protect this piece of cloth......How people can desecrate it and burn it is beyond me................I fly Old Glory on a pole in my yard every day.........I put it up in the morning and take it down at night.......I treat it with a reverence and salute it....

How any American can do otherwise is beyond me..........

 

[doughgirl]

“Only a disloyal/unpatriotic American would commit a terrorist act on his or her own country,only a disloyal/unpatriotic american would burn thier nations flag as sign of disrespect and only a disloyal/unpatriotic American sees our flag as nothing more than a worthless snot rag not worthy of any protection.”

I agree 100%. They should have the right to do it however………to expose themselves. So we can really see their true colors. I like to see whom I am dealing with.

Alex said, “For the record, I see nothing wrong with driving as fast as you want. If your speeding causes an accident, then you are liable. Speeding and accidents are two separate issues because one can happen without the other. It is possible that I could speed all the time and not get into an accident.”

Well I do. You think someone should be allowed to drive as fast as they want in a school zone? a neighborhood........hospital zone? Gosh I do hope you don’t move into my neighborhood.
I think one element that contributes to most accidents is speeding. It’s just a guess but I don’t think I would be wrong by saying that.

NavyPride says, “Its amazing how some of our friends on the left have so little respect for the piece of cloth called Old Glory.........Many a brave men has given his life to protect this piece of cloth......How people can desecrate it and burn it is beyond me................I fly Old Glory on a pole in my yard every day.........I put it up in the morning and take it down at night.......I treat it with a reverence and salute it....

How any American can do otherwise is beyond me..........”

I totally agree. Many in my family have died in wars protecting the United States, this great country that we live in. I can barely sing our national anthum without tearing up. but it doesn’t surprise me when people desecrate it. Just watch Cindy Sheehan on television. She hates this country…..man the hate she has for this country.

Gosh I’d love to mud wrestle that woman….

Did I say that? :rofl

 

[jamesrage]

I think our country can stick up for itself against some erratic protester, don't you think? She's been through a lot more than that.

So how long have you thought of our nation's flag as nothing more than a snot rag unworthy of any protection?

 

[jamesrage]

Only in your fascist-like mind!

LOL...and loving it!!!

I think a antisemtic terrorist appologist has no room to call anyone a facist.

 

[Alex]

Well I do. You think someone should be allowed to drive as fast as they want in a school zone? a neighborhood........hospital zone? Gosh I do hope you don’t move into my neighborhood. [/FONT][/COLOR]
I think one element that contributes to most accidents is speeding. It’s just a guess but I don’t think I would be wrong by saying that.

I am sure that you are right about that. Just because I do not like speeding laws, does not mean I will not abide by them. I know there is a time and a place for things like that and a school zone is not one of them as well as residential areas. A freeway would be better. What I do not appreciate is being controlled because some people can not make these distinctions. I honestly believe that most people are smart enough to know the differences between a safe situation and a dangerous one.

 

[Alex]

Its amazing how some of our friends on the left have so little respect for the piece of cloth called Old Glory.........Many a brave men has given his life to protect this piece of cloth......How people can desecrate it and burn it is beyond me................I fly Old Glory on a pole in my yard every day.........I put it up in the morning and take it down at night.......I treat it with a reverence and salute it....

How any American can do otherwise is beyond me..........

Some people just do not appreciate the way our country is run at times and want to change it. Everyone has the right to disagree with anything, especially their government. Burning the flag is only an expression of this.

 

[Deegan]

Some people just do not appreciate the way our country is run at times and want to change it. Everyone has the right to disagree with anything, especially their government. Burning the flag is only an expression of this.

But if a Dem wants change, and is unhappy, why take it out on the flag, the same flag his supporters still love, admire, and respect? It does not make sense to me, it's like throwing the baby out with the bathwater?

 

[jamesrage]

I honestly believe that most people are smart enough to know the differences between a safe situation and a dangerous one.

If that true we would not have most of the laws we do now reguarding safety.

 

[Alex]

But if a Dem wants change, and is unhappy, why take it out on the flag, the same flag his supporters still love, admire, and respect? It does not make sense to me, it's like throwing the baby out with the bathwater?

The flag represents something they disagree with. It is only logical to desecrate it when the principles it stands for are in conflict with yor own.

By "Dem", do you mean Democrats? I do not believe that it is that cut and dry with regard to political affiliation.

 

[Deegan]

The flag represents something they disagree with. It is only logical to desecrate it when the principles it stands for are in conflict with yor own.

By "Dem", do you mean Democrats? I do not believe that it is that cut and dry with regard to political affiliation.

I disagree, the flag stands for freedom, and even though some may have confused that, does not mean you are justified in burning it, or an entire belief system. I don't agree with burning anything, much less the flag, but in a civil society, there are more then enough creative ways to express your displeasure.

 

[jamesrage]

Some people just do not appreciate the way our country is run at times and want to change it.

We live in a democracy,if we want laws changed or laws added we pressure our elected officials to do so.If they don't do what we want we either elect or we recall a politician and put someone in office who will do the job.

Everyone has the right to disagree with anything, especially their government. Burning the flag is only an expression of this.

Saying I hate your ****en country by burning our flag in a disrespectful manner is not an attempt to change anything,it is an attempt to spit our country and it is a act of disloyalty.The scum here who burn our flags in a disrespectful manner are doing it for the same reason some scumbags in a terrrorist infested country burn our flags for.

 

[Alex]

If that true we would not have most of the laws we do now reguarding safety.

We have those laws because of the relatively few people who are not bright enough to know better.

 

[Calm2Chaos]

The flag represents something they disagree with. It is only logical to desecrate it when the principles it stands for are in conflict with yor own.

By "Dem", do you mean Democrats? I do not believe that it is that cut and dry with regard to political affiliation.

So nothing should be held to a higher standard? Everything is fair game if your using it to show your displeasure?....

 

[Alex]

I disagree, the flag stands for freedom, and even though some may have confused that, does not mean you are justified in burning it, or an entire belief system. I don't agree with burning anything, much less the flag, but in a civil society, there are more then enough creative ways to express your displeasure.

And some people do not believe in the same American freedom that others do, so they burn the flag to express that.

You are right, there are other creative ways to express that. Bombing government buildings, assassinations, anthrax in the mail, flying planes into buildings, etc. I think flag burning is a safe way to express it.

How long would it take for people to want to outlaw other creative and safe ways of doing it?

 

[Deegan]

And some people do not believe in the same American freedom that others do, so they burn the flag to express that.

You are right, there are other creative ways to express that. Bombing government buildings, assassinations, anthrax in the mail, flying planes into buildings, etc. I think flag burning is a safe way to express it.

How long would it take for people to want to outlaw other creative and safe ways of doing it?

WOW, thanks for making my point for me!:shock:

 

[Alex]

We live in a democracy,if we want laws changed or laws added we pressure our elected officials to do so.If they don't do what we want we either elect or we recall a politician and put someone in office who will do the job.

...or they burn the flag. We live in a Constitutional Democracy that requires free-political speech.

Saying I hate your ****en country by burning our flag in a disrespectful manner is not an attempt to change anything,it is an attempt to spit our country and it is a act of disloyalty.The scum here who burn our flags in a disrespectful manner are doing it for the same reason some scumbags in a terrrorist infested country burn our flags for.

Is this guy always this irrational and angry?