Fiscal Cliff Bill Passes[W: 110]

Grant · Jan 2, 2013

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iguanaman said:
Oh and don't call the President, "boy". It makes you sound like a racist teaparty a-hole. Your not that are you?

I've often thought of Barrack Obama as a boy doing a man's job but have caught myself in time because of the possible racial overtones. But if BHO was White I wouldn't hesitate to use the term. Instead we have to use terms like "seriously under-qualified", which suits him just as well but lacks the folksiness and plain truth of the other.

Sometimes things just are, without always looking for racism.

Zyphlin · Jan 2, 2013

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iguanaman said:
Can you imagine if every family sat down every month and decided whether to pay their bills or not like Republicans want to do with America's bills?

Oh, we want to talk about the budget like it's a family now, huh? Could you imagine if every family sat down and decided they'd spend 46% more money then they actually had every year, like Obama's proposed budget has been doing?

Donc · Jan 2, 2013

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Henrin said:
The difference between what I said and what you said is that what you said is built on the back of a unicorn pegasus while mine is built on reality. The only thing he ever wanted to do was raise the taxes on the rich and use the bill for further spending.

Speaking of "unicorn pegasus ".

The only thing he ever wanted to do was raise the taxes on the rich and use the bill for further spending.

Do unicorns eat straw:mrgreen:

Henrin · Jan 2, 2013

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Whipsnade said:
Speaking of "unicorn pegasus ". Do unicorns eat straw:mrgreen:

What I said is the truth and what happened.

gingern44 · Jan 2, 2013

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lpast said:
The teaparty far rights existence will be tried in the next few months. I see alot of conservatives and liberals on here make statements that are not based on any facts or the reality of whats actually occurring. You need to read more guys.
The teaparty is not dead they are raging a battle within their own party that they "APPEAR" to be losing. There are far more professional conservatives and national conservative and media figures aligning against them more to the traditonal side. There is a hue and cry to tone down ultra right talk radio and the conservative entertainment news industry...we know who they are Rush and Fox etc.
As I see it the teaparty which represents the far right on the GOP has got to tone down its rhetoric and its stonewalling. They need to shorten their list of who they want to take from to fund more tax cuts for the rich. The teaparty went waaaaaaaay to far because they were overly cocky they were going to win the entire enchilada.
They went after the poor, they went after the senior citizens, they went after Middle class, they went after govt workers and in the same breath were screaming and stamping their feet for more tax cuts for the top richest...they had to be high to think they were going to breeze through that even with the billion in rich man money they had to win the election.
The teaparty wont go away it actually has always existed in a different name the Conservative Caucus...they just got megabuck funding this time around and alot of attention. The teaparty wont go away but its influence has peaked with the loss of this election.

I'm always amused to see what the perception of the "teaparty" has morphed into. When they first arrived on the scene I went to a website to see what they were about. I remember finding a 10 point statement that could be summed up in one sentence, "quit spending my grandchildren into oblivion". The most radical point I heard from them was the idea that if you send more money to Wash, Wash would do nothing to improve our fiscal outlook and would instead create new spending. Not only do I not consider that radical, it's spot on, as just demonstrated once again.

The idea that the teaparty went after the poor, senior citizens, etc is absurd. They merely played the adult in the room and pointed out that anyone that thinks we are going to get out of this fiscal mess without impacting everyone including the poor, seniors, etc. is kidding themselves. The opposition to tax hikes on the rich is about not sending more money to Wash so Wash can't create new spending, the class warfare scene seems to be the lefts forte.

I don't know where the "teaparty" will end up, but the people who want Wash to quit spending our grandchildren into oblivion are still here. Perhaps a bit sadder and poorer but still here.

iguanaman · Jan 2, 2013

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Grant said:
I've often thought of Barrack Obama as a boy doing a man's job but have caught myself in time because of the possible racial overtones. But if BHO was White I wouldn't hesitate to use the term. Instead we have to use terms like "seriously under-qualified", which suits him just as well but lacks the folksiness and plain truth of the other.

Sometimes things just are, without always looking for racism.

I can't say what I think YOU are or I would get banned. Use your imagination.

Donc · Jan 2, 2013

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Henrin said:
What I said is the truth and what happened.

How did he do these things?He actually prevented taxes from going up on 98% of the population.As for as your other stack of straw, i'll lit the graph do me talkin.:thumbs:

Henrin · Jan 2, 2013

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How did he do these things?He actually prevented taxes from going up on 98% of the population.

Wow, you mean the 98% of people I wasn't talking about. Thanks for paying attention.

As for as your other stack of straw, i'll lit the graph do me talkin.:thumbs:

What that has to do with his interest in increasing spending in the bill is beyond me.

Any more straw?

Henrin · Jan 2, 2013

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iguanaman said:
I can't say what I think YOU are or I would get banned. Use your imagination.

But you lack an imagination. What is the point in him using his?

Grant · Jan 2, 2013

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Whipsnade said:
Your 2c is about as valuable ad mine but here is what I’m a thiken. Bo goes into negotiations without having given anything away. He gives just a tiny sliver of what he originally offered bohner(what bohner turned down) in the cliff negotiations, then the arguments start. Win,win for BO.:2wave:

Many seem to have taken sides between the two political parties but was this best for the country? How will the United States get control of its debt and its spending, or are most people now too politicized to care about the future of their country? That seems to be the big question.

Donc · Jan 2, 2013

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Henrin said:
Wow, you mean the 98% of people I wasn't talking about. Thanks for paying attention.

What that has to do with his interest in increasing spending in the bill is beyond me.

Any more straw?

What does any of the post that you made, have to do with the post that you originally quoted?

iguanaman · Jan 2, 2013

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Grant said:
Many seem to have taken sides between the two political parties but was this best for the country? How will the United States get control of its debt and its spending, or are most people now too politicized to care about the future of their country? That seems to be the big question.

What ever happened to growing the economy and lowering unemployment? That is the ONLY way out of debt. No amount of cuts will fix it untill we are back on our feet.

Donc · Jan 2, 2013

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Grant said:
Many seem to have taken sides between the two political parties but was this best for the country? How will the United States get control of its debt and its spending, or are most people now too politicized to care about the future of their country? That seems to be the big question.

Like i have said in other post we can give up our job as the worlds police force;at least until we get our own house in order, by closing a few unneeded overseas bases.

Fenton · Jan 2, 2013

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head of joaquin said:
Now that the GOP has failed to put a
monkeywrench in the economic recovery (which they hoped to do with huge spending cuts), the Tea Party occupation of America is over. The economy will grow 3-4% next quarter and consistently thereafter. New tax revenues make spending cuts irrelevant, and debt will become meaningless, as it did after WWII.

Conservatism has officially become irrelevant. It has nothing to offer America and its future, which grows brighter every day.

Hahahaha.....3 or 4% increase in GDP. Hey Joaqin I already exposed your lying ass when you posted that last quarters 3% was evidence of a improving economy.

If your GDP growth comes from massive Federal spending with borrowed money for the purpose restocking inventory and your consumer spending is only 1.3% then your economy isn't actually growing and there is no "recovery".

Obama might get that passed his low information voters but he or you are fooling no one.

Donc · Jan 2, 2013

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Fenton said:
Hahahaha.....3 or 4% increase in GDP. Hey Joaqin I already exposed your lying ass when you posted that last quarters 3% was evidence of a improving economy.
:shock:
If your GDP growth comes from massive Federal spending with borrowed money for the purpose restocking inventory and your consumer spending is only 1.3% then your economy isn't actually growing and there is no "recovery".

Obama might get that passed his low information voters but he or you are fooling no one.

WOW!...head of joaquin..is a " lying ass"?Such strong language so early in the morning.eace

Fenton · Jan 2, 2013

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iguanaman said:
What ever happened to growing the economy and lowering
unemployment? That is the ONLY way out of debt. No amount of cuts will fix it untill we are back on our feet.

WTH ??? If you're so concerned about growing the economy and lowering unemployment why did you vote for Obama ?

Its fun to watch liberals try and explain away how Keynesian economics is going to add jobs when all it does is inject borrowed money into a economy whos consumers then buy junk from China.

Unreal..

Gawain · Jan 2, 2013

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Whipsnade said:
How did he do these things?He actually prevented taxes from going up on 98% of the population.As for as your other stack of straw, i'll lit the graph do me talkin.:thumbs:

http://www.usnews.com/pubdbimages/image/31504/Federal_Spending425x283.jpg

When the numbers get that high percentages go down even when spending soars

Donc · Jan 2, 2013

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Fenton said:
WTH ??? If you're so concerned about growing the economy and lowering unemployment why did you vote for Obama ?

Its fun to watch liberals try and explain away how Keynesian economics is going to add jobs when all it does is inject borrowed money into a economy whos consumers then buy junk from China.

Unreal..

Keynesian economics rocks:rock.

Gawain · Jan 2, 2013

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Whipsnade said:
Keynesian economics rocks:rock.

iguanaman · Jan 2, 2013

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Fenton said:
WTH ??? If you're so concerned about growing the economy and lowering unemployment why did you vote for Obama ?

Its fun to watch liberals try and explain away how Keynesian economics is going to add jobs when all it does is inject borrowed money into a economy whos consumers then buy junk from China.

Unreal..

This is why I voted for Obama....

Fisher · Jan 2, 2013

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iguanaman said:
What ever happened to growing the economy and lowering unemployment? That is the ONLY way out of debt. No amount of cuts will fix it untill we are back on our feet.

Taking another 2% from the paycheck of the consuming masses fixes the economy how exactly? "Yeah--Obama won and the working poor just got their take home pay cut, but don't worry that blame the rich schtick works every time on our ignorant base. Wanna take a sauna?"

iguanaman · Jan 2, 2013

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Gawain said:
http://www.usnews.com/pubdbimages/image/31504/Federal_Spending425x283.jpg View attachment 67140242
When the numbers get that high percentages go down even when spending soars

Who got those numbers up so high?

keymanjim · Jan 2, 2013

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iguanaman said:
Can you imagine if every family sat down every month and decided whether to pay their bills or not like Republicans want to do with America's bills?
It would go like this...."Gee mom all the kids at school say we are dead beats" Why did we spend all that money if we didn't want to pay the bill when it came?
The Dad being a Republican says "It doesn't matter that we spent it, if we don't pay the bill we are still being "responsible". It's just too much money to lay out.
The son reaches for his Dad's AR-15 sitting on the table..........................

Oh and don't call the President, "boy". It makes you sound like a racist teaparty a-hole. Your not that are you?

How is going deeper in debt going to help? That's an expense that will have to paid also.

And calling L-obama a 'boy' is an accurate description. Since a man lives up to their responsibilities and L-obama doesn't. Whether I look like a racist is irrelevant since i only look that way to brain-dead L-obama sycophants.

AliHajiSheik · Jan 2, 2013

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TaraAnne said:
So you will not answer the question. I find it funny that the right calls for this stuff and yet tries to make it out to be Obama taking over America but when called on it they run from it.

Debt Ceiling Bluff Called By Harry Reid, Leaving Mitch McConnell To Filibuster Himself

The hypocracy of the right shines right through! laughable

Do you really only see hypocrisy from one side and not all sides? Or do you see it, but it isn't laughable from your side?

amph · Jan 2, 2013

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At least something was done, big whoop! I think it may only be conspiracy theory, but the republican shelving of Sandy aid is repugnant and possibly retaliation for the overwhelming support for President Obama by the northeast, even Governor Cristie's appreciation for the president's prompt response. This story the storyline of republicans placing their peculiar ideology ahead of the service they were elected to perform as the major responsibility of their jobs namely to look out for and provide for the general welfare of we the people is really evident.

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