First to make it legal: Gays wed in South Africa

[1069]

Promiscous gay sex was the main cause of the aids epidemic in the USA.

Do you have some sort of proof to back up this statement, or did you personally witness this, or what?

 

[RightinNYC]

Or Proof that nearly half of those diagnosed with AIDS in the start were straight?

SpringerLink - Journal Article

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but this claim seemed to be fishy to me. So I looked at your own source:

The most important risk factor in Europe is male homosexuality — among the 223 evaluable AIDS cases, male homosexuals constituted the largest group (58 %).

It is concluded that AIDS has become established in Europe mainly through homosexual contacts and cases imported from Central Africa.

Your own link completely discredits what you're trying to claim.

/back to your regularly scheduled argument.

 

[TurtleDude]

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but this claim seemed to be fishy to me. So I looked at your own source:





Your own link completely discredits what you're trying to claim.

/back to your regularly scheduled argument.

I also noted that his own articles cut the feet out under his arguments

 

[26 X World Champs]

wonder if it will have any effect upon the huge AIDS rate in South Africa. If it promotes monogamy among gays it has to be positive

Care to provide a link that shows how Gays are the majority who spread AIDS in Africa? OOOPS! You can't because it's not true....just another fine example of subtle prejudice or are you really that unaware?

 

[TurtleDude]

Care to provide a link that shows how Gays are the majority who spread AIDS in Africa? OOOPS! You can't because it's not true....just another fine example of subtle prejudice or are you really that unaware?

wow, it took you all these posts to leghump my sarcastic first response. I never said what you claim i did. learn how to read

 

[26 X World Champs]

but the fact remains-it was gay practices that caused the aids epidemic to become the scourge on all of mankind

In Africa, really? Proof please? Your statement that you're again trying to pass off as fact (unsubstantiated as usual) is FALSE.

AIDS in Africa is much more of a heterosexual disease!

AIDS in Africa bears little resemblance to the American epidemic, limited to specific high-risk groups and brought under control through intensive education, vigorous political action and expensive drug therapy. Here the disease has bred a Darwinian perversion. Society's fittest, not its frailest, are the ones who die--

Source: TIME.com: Death Stalks A Continent -- Feb. 12, 2001 -- Page 2

I can provide actual numbers but it's an indisputable fact that being Gay is not relevant when discussing AIDS in Africa.

 

[TurtleDude]

In Africa, really? Proof please? Your statement that you're again trying to pass off as fact (unsubstantiated as usual) is FALSE.

AIDS in Africa is much more of a heterosexual disease!


Source: TIME.com: Death Stalks A Continent -- Feb. 12, 2001 -- Page 2

I can provide actual numbers but it's an indisputable fact that being Gay is not relevant when discussing AIDS in Africa.

Didn't say africa nimrod. AIDS was started in the USA by mainly promiscous homosexuals. same in europe.

africa is different. concubines are common over there-anal sex is a common practice to prevent pregnancy of one's mistresses. this anal sex is more likely to transmit aids than vaginal sex and that practice is far more common in sub saharan africa then in western nations where birth control is easily available. There are also myths that an infected man can rid himself of aids by having sex with a virgin and in some areas this means infected men prey upon young girls.

 

[NYStateofMind]

wonder if it will have any effect upon the huge AIDS rate in South Africa. If it promotes monogamy among gays it has to be positive

my mistake, I thought sarcasm was something people on this forum understood

The article posted is about a law passed that makes it legal for gays to marry in South Africa. Your initial response was an attempt to change the subject from gay marriage to AIDS. When I question the logic of your extrapolation that the law may promote monogamy, you respond that you were being sarcastic. Is that a rebuttal? Pretty weak. You prove my point, there is no logic to that statement whatsoever.

Then we have pages of argument about the source of the AIDS epidemic, at the end of which you post this:

Didn't say africa nimrod. AIDS was started in the USA by mainly promiscous homosexuals. same in europe.

africa is different. concubines are common over there-anal sex is a common practice to prevent pregnancy of one's mistresses. this anal sex is more likely to transmit aids than vaginal sex and that practice is far more common in sub saharan africa then in western nations where birth control is easily available. There are also myths that an infected man can rid himself of aids by having sex with a virgin and in some areas this means infected men prey upon young girls.

So, now you are saying that the high AIDS infection rate in Africa is due to heterosexual sex.

How is it that you believe that this law, allowing gays to marry in S. Africa, will affect the high AIDS rate, which you are now saying is due to heterosexual sex?

 

[NYStateofMind]

Ah, but I did realize that knee-jerk right wing talking points would be used, so that puts me way ahead of you.

I'm not familiar with ACT UP. I guess it must be an organization that makes points you are tired of hearing. Is it inconvenient to you that heterosexuals have experienced STD's since the birth of mankind? Whatever the case, gay marriage will probably have the same impact on AIDS that heterosexual marriage has had on chlamidia, herpes, ghonorea, HPV and syphilis.

Exactly right. This law will have ZERO impact on the AIDS infection rate. It also will have no impact on whether gays are monogamous or not.