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Skimming through links I noticed this,
The punchline is that yesterday Iran became the first nation to shoot down a F-35 and they did it not once but twice. I don't think of Iran as being at the vanguard of stealth detection technologies (but maybe I'm wrong?) so I'm surprised by this result. Is this the first time a 5th generation fighter has been downed in combat?
It should be noted that the only support for this comes from Iran itself.Skimming through links I noticed this,
The punchline is that yesterday Iran became the first nation to shoot down a F-35 and they did it not once but twice. I don't think of Iran as being at the vanguard of stealth detection technologies (but maybe I'm wrong?) so I'm surprised by this result. Is this the first time a 5th generation fighter has been downed in combat?
Below is an interesting snippet from the linked article you provided.Another link:
Has the stealthy F-35 met its match? Iran claims capture of Israeli pilots amid reports of third jet shoot-down
Iran claims to have shot down three Israeli F-35 stealth jets, capturing two pilots, in retaliation for deadly Israeli strikes on Tehran that killed civilians, scientists, and top military officials. If verified, this marks the first confirmed combat losses of the F-35. Israel has dismissed the...economictimes.indiatimes.com
This one claims three downed jets and pilots captured, but also references the absence of clear evidence and the IDF calling it a fabrication, so it's anyone's guess whether they actually shot down F-35s. I imagine we'll find out soon enough.
should be noted that the only support for this comes from Iran itself.
Healthy skepticism is warranted,
I'm wondering what the status of the two pilots is. I wish the best for both of them.
Skimming through links I noticed this,
The punchline is that yesterday Iran became the first nation to shoot down a F-35 and they did it not once but twice. I don't think of Iran as being at the vanguard of stealth detection technologies (but maybe I'm wrong?) so I'm surprised by this result. Is this the first time a 5th generation fighter has been downed in combat?
See post #3.In the age of click bait and sensationalist tabloid "stories", I suggest you pay closer attention to the sources and develop your own list of fake news providers.
There are sites that routinely published sensationalized stories on behalf of Ukraine, just as there are those that are propaganda conduits for Russia or anti-western "stories". I've spent the last few years spotting them and your source is one.
One tipoff is the name of the author (never heard of him, if he is real), and another is that the source is apparently Indian or Muslim. Indian sources are particularly bad about truth telling, IndiaOne often inventing whole fictions.
So, until we have credible proof from a credible source, it should be treated as bunk.
Iran is a sponsor of terror groups trying to destroying Israel. Israel is defending itself.Why? They're attacking another nation. Iran has a right to self-defence.
Skimming through links I noticed this,
The punchline is that yesterday Iran became the first nation to shoot down a F-35 and they did it not once but twice. I don't think of Iran as being at the vanguard of stealth detection technologies (but maybe I'm wrong?) so I'm surprised by this result. Is this the first time a 5th generation fighter has been downed in combat?
Go to your link and look at the original source.Skimming through links I noticed this,
The punchline is that yesterday Iran became the first nation to shoot down a F-35 and they did it not once but twice. I don't think of Iran as being at the vanguard of stealth detection technologies (but maybe I'm wrong?) so I'm surprised by this result. Is this the first time a 5th generation fighter has been downed in combat?
India Times isn't much better.Another link:
Has the stealthy F-35 met its match? Iran claims capture of Israeli pilots amid reports of third jet shoot-down
Iran claims to have shot down three Israeli F-35 stealth jets, capturing two pilots, in retaliation for deadly Israeli strikes on Tehran that killed civilians, scientists, and top military officials. If verified, this marks the first confirmed combat losses of the F-35. Israel has dismissed the...economictimes.indiatimes.com
This one claims three downed jets and pilots captured, but also references the absence of clear evidence and the IDF calling it a fabrication, so it's anyone's guess whether they actually shot down F-35s. I imagine we'll find out soon enough.
There it is.View attachment 67574787
Left aircraft supposedly shot down by Iran. On the right, an F-35I from the IAF.
#1 Red Arrow, look at the shape of the cockpit. On the left its straight across the bottom, on the right it shows a dip for better pilot visibility looking at lower altitudes.
#2 The body on the left has a much more rounded fuselage than an F-35I where the body blends into the wing structure.
#3 There are no intakes beginning near the cockpit blending back, but yet the fuselage is painted where the intakes would be. If the intakes "fell off" they would be painted, you'd see internal structure.
#4 Look at the engine placement in regards to the vertical stabilizer. On the left the engine is directly below the attachment point, however on the F-35I the engine exhaust is offset toward center. The engine isn't directly below the stab.
#5 Look at the very edges of the exhaust. On the left they are smooth, however on the F-35I there is a triangle/pointed pattern.
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All-in-all, I'm not buying that the crash on the left (purported to be an F-35I) is in fact an F-35I. Iran will have to supply other evidence for their claim to be believable. (I doubt Israel will say anything in the near future.)
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Infrared, long band radar or being close enough for short band will all detect Stealth aircraft.
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